Unknown2007-03-25 03:45:08
Giving everyone a cherub would be so awesome Even the celestians! They're easy to kill right?
Razenth2007-03-25 03:48:14
Could you explain the benediction bit again Xavius? I'm not quite sure I understand it.
Xavius2007-03-25 03:49:16
Standard-issue defense. It doesn't go away unless stripped.
Razenth2007-03-25 03:54:04
But half of those already can't be stripped. Only the asthma and nausea ones are one-shot.
Xavius2007-03-25 03:57:23
QUOTE(Razenth @ Mar 24 2007, 10:54 PM) 393317
But half of those already can't be stripped. Only the asthma and nausea ones are one-shot.
No, benediction itself becomes the defense. I always thought having all of the semi-active effects in benediction was a waste. Who spends 3p in the middle of a fight for the off chance that it might heal one or two afflictions, or might restore your health, or might just keep giving you defenses that you already have. With how slow the timer on benediction is, and how often the tick is useless, there's potential, so long as the list of afflictions cured by benediction doesn't include things that're meant to be brutally persistent.
Unknown2007-03-25 03:59:09
ANNOUNCE NEWS #765
Date: 3/25/2007 at 3:57
From: Estarra, the Eternal
To : Everyone
Subj: AngelFont Construct
Because of the controversy surrounding AngelFont we have recalled this
construct and will release it later once we have determined the best
course of action.
Sorry!
Penned by My hand on the 23rd of Vestian, in the year 172 CE.
Razenth2007-03-25 04:00:58
That was shockingly fast.
EDIT: The latter.
EDIT: The latter.
Unknown2007-03-25 04:01:34
The recall or my posting the announce? If the later, I'm quite bored.
Unknown2007-03-25 04:02:14
Alright.. now we can work on helping them fix that thingie
Zacc2007-03-25 04:03:28
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Mar 24 2007, 11:38 PM) 393303
Seriously.. your ideas are horrible...
Trueheal becomes a "get the hell out of here if you get jumped and/or you are low on health" card, making Celestians close to imposible to kill...
As for the grace thing
graced
To walk in the grace of the Gods is a privilege not to be abused. It signifies
the desire of the Divine Ones to give protection to those who choose the more
peaceful paths through life. Harming or harrassing these people will be frowned
upon. The following are the names of those who currently walk in grace:
What you did there people call "abusing grace"
Trueheal becomes a "get the hell out of here if you get jumped and/or you are low on health" card, making Celestians close to imposible to kill...
As for the grace thing
graced
To walk in the grace of the Gods is a privilege not to be abused. It signifies
the desire of the Divine Ones to give protection to those who choose the more
peaceful paths through life. Harming or harrassing these people will be frowned
upon. The following are the names of those who currently walk in grace:
What you did there people call "abusing grace"
Right.. and your suggestion of ablution and lustration were absolutely superb, consider they're useless to quite a few people. Now, before this turns into a personal attack fest, I think a bit of constructive criticism is needed- feel free.
Oh? And what was it that Serenwilde and Magnagora got? Easier ways to come back to life? Woot for them.
The Grace was not abused. Zacc's actions were peaceful. He went to check on Raziela, another being of peace. When he saw her under attack, he decided to defend her and rejected Grace. It was as simple as that. As long as the Graced person does not harass anyone and continues to be peaceful while under Grace, the Grace is not being abused.
Anyway, please keep on topic. This will be the last of my responses to off-topic posts.
The 0p Trueheal isn't that big of a benefit. One free Trueheal for sacraments users.. and it's not really free when they have to pay 10p initially and lose their aura when Trueheal is used. If it's that big of a deal, make it a one-time 5p Trueheal. Add a timer to how often the aura can be obtained if frequency is an issue.
How about Angelfont makes all angelic beings on Celestia stronger? Cures one random affliction while in Celestian territory? Lvl 3 regen while in Celestian territory? Gives the ability to sanctify a room for 10p, but aura is destroyed upon use.. can only be used on Celestia, Water, and Prime? Nexusworld powers similar to flux and ripple? Increased damage on demons and like? Decreased damage from tainted beings? Ability to use prismatic barrier for 5p?
Karnagan2007-03-25 04:05:16
A Knight with free lustration/ablution + surge would have more health than a Demigod. And a great deal of mana. I'm quite confident I could get from 6400 all the way to 8000 with free lustration, especially if it increases your health cap, as some have suggested.
Keep 10 power Sacraments for regular Celestians. However, if you felt like making Honour giving automatic Level 2 or 3 health/mana regeneration ONLY to Sacraments users, it would be incredibly powerful without being utterly insane. Archlich now has permnanent +2 to Strength and Intelligence, so it would not be too terribly out of line.
PS: Take a Valium, people. Estarra is easily the most responsive IRE administrator, and I'm sure she's very carefully observing what will happen with Trueheal. A 5 power cost that doesn't strip aura, or Level 2/3 Honour being granted, are probably in the cards. The game is genuinely not that unbalanced, and Trueheal is being described as more than it is.
(That said, I would be much better off after activating Trueheal then after my Lichseed goes off. But what the hell, you pays your money and you takes your choice.)
EDIT: I know Lustration and Ablution don't increase MAX health. At least, not right now. It's very similar to Necromancy's Cannibalize. I hope that was clear in my original post.
Keep 10 power Sacraments for regular Celestians. However, if you felt like making Honour giving automatic Level 2 or 3 health/mana regeneration ONLY to Sacraments users, it would be incredibly powerful without being utterly insane. Archlich now has permnanent +2 to Strength and Intelligence, so it would not be too terribly out of line.
PS: Take a Valium, people. Estarra is easily the most responsive IRE administrator, and I'm sure she's very carefully observing what will happen with Trueheal. A 5 power cost that doesn't strip aura, or Level 2/3 Honour being granted, are probably in the cards. The game is genuinely not that unbalanced, and Trueheal is being described as more than it is.
(That said, I would be much better off after activating Trueheal then after my Lichseed goes off. But what the hell, you pays your money and you takes your choice.)
EDIT: I know Lustration and Ablution don't increase MAX health. At least, not right now. It's very similar to Necromancy's Cannibalize. I hope that was clear in my original post.
Razenth2007-03-25 04:08:14
For the love of the gods, ablution and lustration don't increase max health or mana. At all. Zero. Zip. DOES NOT DO.
And honor costs 10 power normally and gives a level 1 regen to h/m/e for each person in the room with Sacraments. Thus, 3 Sac users in room = level 3 regen to all. Can't go above level 3.
And honor costs 10 power normally and gives a level 1 regen to h/m/e for each person in the room with Sacraments. Thus, 3 Sac users in room = level 3 regen to all. Can't go above level 3.
Unknown2007-03-25 04:10:25
If I had a cherub I would hug it and dance with it and kick it when I got mad.
I would also make it use paralysis or anorexia every 12 seconds.
I would also make it use paralysis or anorexia every 12 seconds.
Unknown2007-03-25 04:10:41
QUOTE(Zacc @ Mar 24 2007, 10:03 PM) 393323
Right.. and your suggestion of ablution and lustration were absolutely superb, consider they're useless to quite a few people. Now, before this turns into a personal attack fest, I think a bit of constructive criticism is needed- feel free.
Oh? And what was it that Serenwilde and Magnagora got? Easier ways to come back to life? Woot for them.
The Grace was not abused. Zacc's actions were peaceful. He went to check on Raziela, another being of peace. When he saw her under attack, he decided to defend her and rejected Grace. It was as simple as that. As long as the Graced person does not harass anyone and continues to be peaceful while under Grace, the Grace is not being abused.
Anyway, please keep on topic. This will be the last of my responses to off-topic posts.
The 0p Trueheal isn't that big of a benefit. One free Trueheal for sacraments users.. and it's not really free when they have to pay 10p initially and lose their aura when Trueheal is used. If it's that big of a deal, make it a one-time 5p Trueheal. Add a timer to how often the aura can be obtained if frequency is an issue.
How about Angelfont makes all angelic beings on Celestia stronger? Cures one random affliction while in Celestian territory? Lvl 3 regen while in Celestian territory? Gives the ability to sanctify a room for 10p, but aura is destroyed upon use.. can only be used on Celestia, Water, and Prime? Nexusworld powers similar to flux and ripple? Increased damage on demons and like? Decreased damage from tainted beings? Ability to use prismatic barrier for 5p?
Oh? And what was it that Serenwilde and Magnagora got? Easier ways to come back to life? Woot for them.
The Grace was not abused. Zacc's actions were peaceful. He went to check on Raziela, another being of peace. When he saw her under attack, he decided to defend her and rejected Grace. It was as simple as that. As long as the Graced person does not harass anyone and continues to be peaceful while under Grace, the Grace is not being abused.
Anyway, please keep on topic. This will be the last of my responses to off-topic posts.
The 0p Trueheal isn't that big of a benefit. One free Trueheal for sacraments users.. and it's not really free when they have to pay 10p initially and lose their aura when Trueheal is used. If it's that big of a deal, make it a one-time 5p Trueheal. Add a timer to how often the aura can be obtained if frequency is an issue.
How about Angelfont makes all angelic beings on Celestia stronger? Cures one random affliction while in Celestian territory? Lvl 3 regen while in Celestian territory? Gives the ability to sanctify a room for 10p, but aura is destroyed upon use.. can only be used on Celestia, Water, and Prime? Nexusworld powers similar to flux and ripple? Increased damage on demons and like? Decreased damage from tainted beings? Ability to use prismatic barrier for 5p?
I'm sorry, but 20% more health and mana it is a lot no matter what your level is... 20% health an mana means 20% more healing from Health and Mana potions... it all adds up, thank you
Angelic beings on Celestia stronger? It's good, but not for personal effects
Cure affliction? I'm not sure
Lvl 3 regen? That's honours.. get three Sacrament users and you get lvl 3 regen
Scantify a room? That's overpowered... Go to the place where your supernals are, scantify and watch how they cannot be killed
Nexusworld power? not a personal effect
Increased damage? Unless there's a way of increased damage towards angelic and celestians
Prismatic barrier? That's Serpent on Lowmagic and it costs 10 power
If you want to add something constructive at least know what you are talking about
and for the Lustration and Ablution.. with the aura, I say make them permanent until death.. then you have to put ablution and lustration again
Razenth2007-03-25 04:13:59
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and for the Lustration and Ablution.. with the aura, I say make them permanent until death.. then you have to put ablution and lustration again
So are you saying that Lustration and Ablution SHOULD increase max health with the aura?
EDIT: How do you people do that quote thing where it has the person's name and time of post on it?
Unknown2007-03-25 04:15:23
QUOTE(Razenth @ Mar 24 2007, 10:13 PM) 393329
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and for the Lustration and Ablution.. with the aura, I say make them permanent until death.. then you have to put ablution and lustration again
So are you saying that Lustration and Ablution SHOULD increase max health with the aura?
yes
Karnagan2007-03-25 04:24:39
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Mar 25 2007, 12:45 AM) 393330
yes
A Level 80 warrior with 13-14 CON can have Demigod health with such an ability if they stack Surge on top. Believe me, I'm 100% confident on that. Even free lustration would be horribly OP'ed. As for the one free trueheal: yes, I imagine that it makes the ability much easier to use. In addition, someone can instantly unleash any ability after using Trueheal, assuming they have 10 power. Is this overpowered? Well, like I said before, a Lich who has just formed is much less better off than someone who just used Trueheal.
And if you think this is fair, again: just tell Magnagorans they can have Lichdom IN GENERAL without having the balance loss, never mind letting them keep all their power.
Zacc2007-03-25 04:27:00
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Mar 25 2007, 12:10 AM) 393328
I'm sorry, but 20% more health and mana it is a lot no matter what your level is... 20% health an mana means 20% more healing from Health and Mana potions... it all adds up, thank you
Angelic beings on Celestia stronger? It's good, but not for personal effects
Cure affliction? I'm not sure
Lvl 3 regen? That's honours.. get three Sacrament users and you get lvl 3 regen
Scantify a room? That's overpowered... Go to the place where your supernals are, scantify and watch how they cannot be killed
Nexusworld power? not a personal effect
Increased damage? Unless there's a way of increased damage towards angelic and celestians
Prismatic barrier? That's Serpent on Lowmagic and it costs 10 power
If you want to add something constructive at least know what you are talking about
and for the Lustration and Ablution.. with the aura, I say make them permanent until death.. then you have to put ablution and lustration again
Angelic beings on Celestia stronger? It's good, but not for personal effects
Cure affliction? I'm not sure
Lvl 3 regen? That's honours.. get three Sacrament users and you get lvl 3 regen
Scantify a room? That's overpowered... Go to the place where your supernals are, scantify and watch how they cannot be killed
Nexusworld power? not a personal effect
Increased damage? Unless there's a way of increased damage towards angelic and celestians
Prismatic barrier? That's Serpent on Lowmagic and it costs 10 power
If you want to add something constructive at least know what you are talking about
and for the Lustration and Ablution.. with the aura, I say make them permanent until death.. then you have to put ablution and lustration again
Hypothetically: a potion heals approx 400 health normally at 2000 health.. 20% bonus is added. Health is now 2400. Potion now heals roughly 480 health. Woot for 80hp.
People are already complaining about the lvl 3 regen from honours. The one I propose would only work /within/ Celestian territory.. not on Nil or elsewhere.
I suppose sanctify would be overpowered.. then again, you could always destroy their construct before you attacked.
I know what I'm talking about. The only one up there that's remotely unreasonable is the sanctifying.. but it makes plain sense from an IG point of view. Afterall, Celestia is all about Light, Love, Life, Peace, and all that mushy stuff. You want personal effects.. Celestia conglute for the entire plane. There, now we can bring org conglute back, but with the ability to remove it via destruction of constructs.
Btw, isn't lichdom a trans skill? Just checking.
Ixion2007-03-25 04:31:46
You asked for a room santification for 10p.. perhaps you shouldn't post for a while.
Zacc2007-03-25 04:36:59
QUOTE(Ixion @ Mar 25 2007, 12:31 AM) 393334
You asked for a room santification for 10p.. perhaps you shouldn't post for a while.
Either that or some form of Grace. Either will do.