Unknown2007-03-25 04:38:57
QUOTE(Zacc @ Mar 24 2007, 10:27 PM) 393333
Hypothetically: a potion heals approx 400 health normally at 2000 health.. 20% bonus is added. Health is now 2400. Potion now heals roughly 480 health. Woot for 80hp.
People are already complaining about the lvl 3 regen from honours. The one I propose would only work /within/ Celestian territory.. not on Nil or elsewhere.
I suppose sanctify would be overpowered.. then again, you could always destroy their construct before you attacked.
I know what I'm talking about. The only one up there that's remotely unreasonable is the sanctifying.. but it makes plain sense from an IG point of view. Afterall, Celestia is all about Light, Love, Life, Peace, and all that mushy stuff. You want personal effects.. Celestia conglute for the entire plane. There, now we can bring org conglute back, but with the ability to remove it via destruction of constructs.
Btw, isn't lichdom a trans skill? Just checking.
People are already complaining about the lvl 3 regen from honours. The one I propose would only work /within/ Celestian territory.. not on Nil or elsewhere.
I suppose sanctify would be overpowered.. then again, you could always destroy their construct before you attacked.
I know what I'm talking about. The only one up there that's remotely unreasonable is the sanctifying.. but it makes plain sense from an IG point of view. Afterall, Celestia is all about Light, Love, Life, Peace, and all that mushy stuff. You want personal effects.. Celestia conglute for the entire plane. There, now we can bring org conglute back, but with the ability to remove it via destruction of constructs.
Btw, isn't lichdom a trans skill? Just checking.
Zacc... You don't know what you are talking about
And Lichdom is a trans skill.. but so is Stagform, Supersling and Bedevil
Unknown2007-03-25 04:39:20
QUOTE(Zacc @ Mar 24 2007, 10:36 PM) 393336
Either that or some form of Grace. Either will do.
Stop posting now
Razenth2007-03-25 04:39:40
Hey! Bedevil is actually pretty cool!
Geb2007-03-25 04:39:57
QUOTE(Nico @ Mar 25 2007, 03:20 AM) 393180
Angelfont:
TOUCH - Gives the angelic aura for 10 power
Angelic aura acts as a field of protection
Sacraments resurrect on those with the angelic aura costs 0 power
Sacraments sacrifice on those with the angelic aura costs 0 power
Sacraments honour effects those with angelic auras
Benediction placed on those with angelic auras cost no power
Non-sacraments user can Trueheal for 10 power (which destroys the aura)
Sacraments users can Trueheal for no power (which destroys the aura)
.
Let the crying begin...wait for it....wait for it.....aannnnnd.....now.
(I'm just posting this cause I'm sure someone else will start complaining regardless.)
TOUCH - Gives the angelic aura for 10 power
Angelic aura acts as a field of protection
Sacraments resurrect on those with the angelic aura costs 0 power
Sacraments sacrifice on those with the angelic aura costs 0 power
Sacraments honour effects those with angelic auras
Benediction placed on those with angelic auras cost no power
Non-sacraments user can Trueheal for 10 power (which destroys the aura)
Sacraments users can Trueheal for no power (which destroys the aura)
.
Let the crying begin...wait for it....wait for it.....aannnnnd.....now.
(I'm just posting this cause I'm sure someone else will start complaining regardless.)
Ok, I joked about this happening. I told someone imagine me as a tracker with Trueheal, it would be insane!
Unknown2007-03-25 04:40:39
QUOTE(Razenth @ Mar 24 2007, 10:39 PM) 393339
Hey! Bedevil is actually pretty cool!
Bedevil is not a good trans skill...
Laysus2007-03-25 04:52:07
Bedevil's had changes hopefully in the line since december when they were suggested in an envoy report
Unknown2007-03-25 04:55:37
QUOTE(Laysus @ Mar 24 2007, 10:52 PM) 393344
Bedevil's had changes hopefully in the line since december when they were suggested in an envoy report
That's good
Krellan2007-03-25 05:01:20
I think everyone agrees that zacc has some really stupid suggestions.
I think trueheal or any skill with prismatic aura should never go below 10 power. Trueheal is OP because of the very fact it can be used OFF BALANCE AND EQUILIBRIUM. The whole healing all afflictions who cares, giving back balance doesn't matter you have a prismatic barrier anyways. Compared with Serpent it has pretty much negligible differances. You get a prismatic barrier that doesn't stop telepath attacks. But otherwise you can't die for a time and you can cure all your afflictions anyways and get your health back. Honestly in my opinion, not sure about others, but if you finally decide to nerf trueheal and make it so that it requires equilibrium and balance just like serpent, I think the construct would be fine, minus the 0 power cost for those already with trueheal. I say keep it at 10 because 0 power is ridiculous for a literal life saver.
I think trueheal or any skill with prismatic aura should never go below 10 power. Trueheal is OP because of the very fact it can be used OFF BALANCE AND EQUILIBRIUM. The whole healing all afflictions who cares, giving back balance doesn't matter you have a prismatic barrier anyways. Compared with Serpent it has pretty much negligible differances. You get a prismatic barrier that doesn't stop telepath attacks. But otherwise you can't die for a time and you can cure all your afflictions anyways and get your health back. Honestly in my opinion, not sure about others, but if you finally decide to nerf trueheal and make it so that it requires equilibrium and balance just like serpent, I think the construct would be fine, minus the 0 power cost for those already with trueheal. I say keep it at 10 because 0 power is ridiculous for a literal life saver.
Laysus2007-03-25 05:02:47
Krellan: Caps do not an argument make.
Krellan2007-03-25 05:04:11
QUOTE(Laysus @ Mar 25 2007, 12:02 AM) 393349
Krellan: Caps do not an argument make.
sorry was just trying to make sure it was clear cause I'm not the greatest writer and tend to organize my thoughts terribly so it gets muddled up
Zacc2007-03-25 05:05:38
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Mar 25 2007, 12:38 AM) 393337
Zacc... You don't know what you are talking about
And Lichdom is a trans skill.. but so is Stagform, Supersling and Bedevil
And Lichdom is a trans skill.. but so is Stagform, Supersling and Bedevil
Oh? From a mechanics point of view, everything seems to be in line.
Lichdom is the black crypt special thingy, right? Well darn, I want Trueheal or Absolve.. heck, I'll even settle with the ability to rezz.
Unknown2007-03-25 05:11:27
QUOTE(Zacc @ Mar 24 2007, 11:05 PM) 393351
Oh? From a mechanics point of view, everything seems to be in line.
Lichdom is the black crypt special thingy, right? Well darn, I want Trueheal or Absolve.. heck, I'll even settle with the ability to rezz.
Lichdom is the black crypt special thingy, right? Well darn, I want Trueheal or Absolve.. heck, I'll even settle with the ability to rezz.
Resurection AND Sacrifice... not enough? How about Vitae.. or maybe not dying at all
And the Crypt JUST gives Lichdom while the Font gives Trueheal and a lot more... while Trueheal is great for getting out of any situation and escape fast... Trueheal is one of the best Trans skills in the game.. everyone will say this.. this does not comapre to Stagform or Supersling which is a watered down version of Doublewhammy in Hexes, a skill that is not trans yet it's more powerful than Supersling!
You know what? You are the only poster that I've found to be incredibly dense of the whole board.. welcome to my ignore list.. hope you feel alone in there
Zacc2007-03-25 05:19:28
QUOTE(Krellan @ Mar 25 2007, 01:01 AM) 393347
I think everyone agrees that zacc has some really stupid suggestions.
I think trueheal or any skill with prismatic aura should never go below 10 power. Trueheal is OP because of the very fact it can be used OFF BALANCE AND EQUILIBRIUM. The whole healing all afflictions who cares, giving back balance doesn't matter you have a prismatic barrier anyways. Compared with Serpent it has pretty much negligible differances. You get a prismatic barrier that doesn't stop telepath attacks. But otherwise you can't die for a time and you can cure all your afflictions anyways and get your health back. Honestly in my opinion, not sure about others, but if you finally decide to nerf trueheal and make it so that it requires equilibrium and balance just like serpent, I think the construct would be fine, minus the 0 power cost for those already with trueheal. I say keep it at 10 because 0 power is ridiculous for a literal life saver.
I think trueheal or any skill with prismatic aura should never go below 10 power. Trueheal is OP because of the very fact it can be used OFF BALANCE AND EQUILIBRIUM. The whole healing all afflictions who cares, giving back balance doesn't matter you have a prismatic barrier anyways. Compared with Serpent it has pretty much negligible differances. You get a prismatic barrier that doesn't stop telepath attacks. But otherwise you can't die for a time and you can cure all your afflictions anyways and get your health back. Honestly in my opinion, not sure about others, but if you finally decide to nerf trueheal and make it so that it requires equilibrium and balance just like serpent, I think the construct would be fine, minus the 0 power cost for those already with trueheal. I say keep it at 10 because 0 power is ridiculous for a literal life saver.
Why doesn't this surprise me. Anything that's going to benefit the victims of your repetitive jumpings is going to be "stupid", isn't it? Go figure.
The construct may be overpowered at current, but keeping the 10p, one-time Trueheal for all non-sacraments users does not contribute to it. For them, it costs a total of 20p and requires a trip back to the nexus world to refresh. Also, the whole point of the nexusworlds was to promote hostilities off the other planes.. ie- the constructs can be destroyed to hinder the org that owns them. If you don't like the construct, destroy it. Simple as that. Right now, there are no skills in any of the Celestian skillsets that could be used for the construct without there being some form of complaint from anyone nonCelestian or making the construct weaker in comparison to the other construct/s (Serenwilde's allows for resurgem of the soul?.. Magnagora's gives lichdom to all). Find a Celestian skill that compares with that and can actually influence the outcomes of combat (ie- forms of resurrection that allow for a continuous offensive after death or quick regrouping).
Laysus2007-03-25 05:20:14
Zacc: The main difference is that ultimately, the trueheal effect of the angelfont gave a strong advantage in pvp, whereas the crypt just gives a nice resurrection with minor abilities linked to it and no huge effect in combat.
Krellan2007-03-25 05:22:43
QUOTE(Zacc @ Mar 25 2007, 12:19 AM) 393357
Why doesn't this surprise me. Anything that's going to benefit the victims of your repetitive jumpings is going to be "stupid", isn't it? Go figure.
there is meant to be conflict in lusternia. You can't be protected everywhere. Everything is aggressive on astral. if you're so great you can insult me and Malarious through shouts about our lack of fighting skills that you can't even use do one command for ten power on balance and equilibrium...that says plenty right there.
Anisu2007-03-25 05:27:00
please stop trying to use Lustration and Ablution as a replacement for the trueheal part of the construct, they really really suck.
remove trueheal from the construct.
change the resurrect/sacrifice thing to: 0 power to resurrect with a corpse, 5 power to resurrect a soul without having to die yourself. and the construct would be worth it, well that is my opinion anyway go all back to flaming now.
remove trueheal from the construct.
change the resurrect/sacrifice thing to: 0 power to resurrect with a corpse, 5 power to resurrect a soul without having to die yourself. and the construct would be worth it, well that is my opinion anyway go all back to flaming now.
Zacc2007-03-25 05:29:17
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Mar 25 2007, 01:11 AM) 393354
Resurection AND Sacrifice... not enough? How about Vitae.. or maybe not dying at all
And the Crypt JUST gives Lichdom while the Font gives Trueheal and a lot more... while Trueheal is great for getting out of any situation and escape fast... Trueheal is one of the best Trans skills in the game.. everyone will say this.. this does not comapre to Stagform or Supersling which is a watered down version of Doublewhammy in Hexes, a skill that is not trans yet it's more powerful than Supersling!
You know what? You are the only poster that I've found to be incredibly dense of the whole board.. welcome to my ignore list.. hope you feel alone in there
And the Crypt JUST gives Lichdom while the Font gives Trueheal and a lot more... while Trueheal is great for getting out of any situation and escape fast... Trueheal is one of the best Trans skills in the game.. everyone will say this.. this does not comapre to Stagform or Supersling which is a watered down version of Doublewhammy in Hexes, a skill that is not trans yet it's more powerful than Supersling!
You know what? You are the only poster that I've found to be incredibly dense of the whole board.. welcome to my ignore list.. hope you feel alone in there
If your posts weren't so offensive and irritatingly biased, I wouldn't respond to them. But hey, I'm on someone's ignore list.. go me. Now I don't have to worry about their ramblings when they respond to me. Woot woot.
And just so you know... When Celestia is being raided, do you expect all of the Sacraments users to safely sit at the Pool and ressurection and sacrifice while the Supernals are being attacked? Uh, no.. all attackers should be slain as quickly as possible, so any and all should help before they manage to take the supernal down. Right.. vitae when there are several geomancers spamming boulderblast. Ya rly.
Do you even know how Lichdom works? Yeah.. exactly. It can be quite handy. I'll trade any one of my skills for a version of it. Trueheal is actually useless to me unless I'm jumped right at the entrance/exit to something (like the Pool on Astral.. cough cough). I tend to die to damage 75% of the time.. the other 25% is due to bleeding from druids
Xavius2007-03-25 05:31:46
Cherubs!
Zacc2007-03-25 05:38:40
QUOTE(Krellan @ Mar 25 2007, 01:22 AM) 393360
there is meant to be conflict in lusternia. You can't be protected everywhere. Everything is aggressive on astral. if you're so great you can insult me and Malarious through shouts about our lack of fighting skills that you can't even use do one command for ten power on balance and equilibrium...that says plenty right there.
O rly now..
It says plenty that you would even need Malarious to help you. You came at me once, by yourself, and then you started using him.. and the most recent attack involved another Moondancer coming through the Pool and sitting there.
Lusternia is not meant to be another Achaea or free PK game where a few run around slaying everyone because they can. If this was the case, then it's pretty much obvious that unless you have a system and trans skills, you lose at a game that can not be either won or lost. A high skill in Herbs can only be used on Astral. Is the administration admitting that taking full advantage of Herbs is to subject oneself to participate in combat? I don't believe so, even though it looks as though they're forcing it upon those who want to simply use a /tradeskill/ that has no offensive or defensive abilities in PvP. Unless the administration state that this game revolves around PvP conflict, it doesn't. Try getting that through your head, please.
And for reference: 2>1.. 2 !=1. I trust you can figure that out.
Xavius2007-03-25 05:46:03
Both of you, shoo. If you want a discussion on why Trueheal is overpowered, necro a thread. There's a ton of them. If you want to make fun of each other, use a less travelled thread or a Rants thread. If you want to talk about readjusting Angelfont, you're in the right place.
Besides, Zacc, wouldn't you love to have a cherub?
Besides, Zacc, wouldn't you love to have a cherub?