Daganev2007-04-17 19:54:22
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Apr 17 2007, 12:38 PM) 399462
Yeah, I don't see how you couldn't fly/glide from that. According to the Lusternia flight message, you just flap your wings powerfully (or something to that effect).
EDIT: Also, you could sip vitae and just let yourself tumble off.
EDIT: Also, you could sip vitae and just let yourself tumble off.
Lets repeat the phrase... "any sudden moves" This includes, jumping, skipping, turning, flapping, vomiting (wouldn't it be fun if THAT was coded in!) etc
Unknown2007-04-17 20:10:10
You didn't address my second option. :|
(Also, I'd argue that if you could walk there, you could fly from there, but we don't have any real-life way to prove it.)
(Also, I'd argue that if you could walk there, you could fly from there, but we don't have any real-life way to prove it.)
Daganev2007-04-17 20:19:45
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Apr 17 2007, 01:10 PM) 399469
You didn't address my second option. :|
(Also, I'd argue that if you could walk there, you could fly from there, but we don't have any real-life way to prove it.)
(Also, I'd argue that if you could walk there, you could fly from there, but we don't have any real-life way to prove it.)
Oh right.. well vitae doesn't work if you die because of something that the world warned you, you would die of.
See, I would agree only if you can fly by flapping your wings very slowly without any sudden movements.
Unknown2007-04-17 21:20:59
*continues the argument/derail*
Where is it stated that people who die from falling off a cliff wouldn't be brought back to life? I'm 99% sure that vitae would work, and you're just talking out your , though I'd love for you to prove me wrong.
If you were to fall, wouldn't you be able to start flying/gliding while falling (provided the wind didn't screw you up)? I'm thinking of carrier pigeons, for example.
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 17 2007, 04:19 PM) 399470
Oh right.. well vitae doesn't work if you die because of something that the world warned you, you would die of.
Where is it stated that people who die from falling off a cliff wouldn't be brought back to life? I'm 99% sure that vitae would work, and you're just talking out your , though I'd love for you to prove me wrong.
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 17 2007, 04:19 PM) 399470
See, I would agree only if you can fly by flapping your wings very slowly without any sudden movements.
If you were to fall, wouldn't you be able to start flying/gliding while falling (provided the wind didn't screw you up)? I'm thinking of carrier pigeons, for example.
Ildaudid2007-04-17 21:37:58
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Apr 17 2007, 03:38 PM) 399462
Yeah, I don't see how you couldn't fly/glide from that. According to the Lusternia flight message, you just flap your wings powerfully (or something to that effect).
EDIT: Also, you could sip vitae and just let yourself tumble off.
EDIT: Also, you could sip vitae and just let yourself tumble off.
I dunno why, could be for the same reasons that ghosts who never touch the ground when moving (apparitions seem to float) cannot go across any water. Guess they can't make everything agree to total realism.
Unknown2007-04-17 22:37:09
Oh well, it leaves the door open for possible happenings involving life outside of the Basin.
Daganev2007-04-17 22:41:45
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Apr 17 2007, 02:20 PM) 399473
*continues the argument/derail*
Where is it stated that people who die from falling off a cliff wouldn't be brought back to life? I'm 99% sure that vitae would work, and you're just talking out your , though I'd love for you to prove me wrong.
If you were to fall, wouldn't you be able to start flying/gliding while falling (provided the wind didn't screw you up)? I'm thinking of carrier pigeons, for example.
Where is it stated that people who die from falling off a cliff wouldn't be brought back to life? I'm 99% sure that vitae would work, and you're just talking out your , though I'd love for you to prove me wrong.
If you were to fall, wouldn't you be able to start flying/gliding while falling (provided the wind didn't screw you up)? I'm thinking of carrier pigeons, for example.
This doesn't work. I was on my mount while flying as a tae'dae, I got knocked off, before I fell I changelinged into a faeling and still hit the ground. You can't fly from falling.
Xenthos2007-04-17 22:42:27
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 17 2007, 06:41 PM) 399482
This doesn't work. I was on my mount while flying as a tae'dae, I got knocked off, before I fell I changelinged into a faeling and still hit the ground. You can't fly from falling.
But you *can* levitate from falling. Also-- try flying in the mountains, with vitae. If you fall and die, you'll still vitae.
Daganev2007-04-17 22:53:30
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Apr 17 2007, 03:42 PM) 399483
But you *can* levitate from falling. Also-- try flying in the mountains, with vitae. If you fall and die, you'll still vitae.
No but see, here is the thing. When you fall and die from flying in the mountains, thats just like any other death.
But from this ledge, the fates have stuck in your head the knowledge that you will die, and since the fates say that , it makes it true, no matter if you have vitae or not. Although I guess if you are Wyrded you can avoid this fate.
*disclaimer : previous argument is based on the idea that the text you see in the room is what the fates tell you about the room if it is non descriptive text.
Unknown2007-04-17 23:12:11
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 17 2007, 06:41 PM) 399482
before I fell I changelinged into a faeling and still hit the ground. You can't fly from falling.
Are you sure your character tried to fly? >.>
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 17 2007, 06:53 PM) 399484
But from this ledge, the fates have stuck in your head the knowledge that you will die, and since the fates say that , it makes it true, no matter if you have vitae or not.
Or it could be poorly written. The "if one were to fall from here, although they would be deceased" bit, if such is the case, is assuming that you can't fly/don't have levitation and won't vitae after the initial death.
admin halp plz
Daganev2007-04-17 23:23:22
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Apr 17 2007, 04:12 PM) 399488
Are you sure your character tried to fly? >.>
Or it could be poorly written. The "if one were to fall from here, although they would be deceased" bit, if such is the case, is assuming that you can't fly/don't have levitation and won't vitae after the initial death.
admin halp plz
Or it could be poorly written. The "if one were to fall from here, although they would be deceased" bit, if such is the case, is assuming that you can't fly/don't have levitation and won't vitae after the initial death.
admin halp plz
The fates are never wrong!
Unknown2007-04-18 00:18:05
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 17 2007, 07:23 PM) 399489
The fates are never wrong!
Except when they disagree. :D
Anarias2007-04-18 05:54:48
Fates? It seems like a bad move to start saying that all poorly conceived descriptions are now approved of by some deus ex machina. Its an awkwardly phrased sentence in a single room's description. It should just be disregarded.
Aiakon2007-04-18 09:03:44
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Apr 17 2007, 10:37 PM) 399474
I dunno why, could be for the same reasons that ghosts who never touch the ground when moving (apparitions seem to float) cannot go across any water. Guess they can't make everything agree to total realism.
Obviously, ghosts are heavy. Souls aren't though - souls can walk across water, but ghosts get waterlogged. It's why you never see the spectres off spectre island. They'd love to be doing a little swimming... but what happens is they sink.
Unknown2007-04-18 09:39:14
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Apr 17 2007, 05:20 PM) 399473
Where is it stated that people who die from falling off a cliff wouldn't be brought back to life? I'm 99% sure that vitae would work, and you're just talking out your , though I'd love for you to prove me wrong.
The first time I stepped out of the igasho area (was ported in to someone who could scale mountains) I fell, and took damage, broke things, bled, that was a single level out of the eight; this continued again, and again and again, and again, ad nausum. That could very well be high enough so that you'd die, vitae, and die again, because you hadn't yet reached the floor from your first death. :\\Though for my argument someone with mountain climbing could just climb down, unless it was just a totally inaccessible place to climb down from/up to.
All in all, it boils down to "don't ask questions". Accept that there are some minor inaccuracies, and get over them, extend your suspension of disbelief a bit; it'll do you good.
Elostian2007-04-18 10:34:51
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Apr 9 2007, 01:41 PM) 396878
Along a dangerous ledge:
Unlike many of the shelves and overlooks in the eastern mountain range, this ledge juts out to the eastern side of the mountains rather than the western. As a
result, a spectacular view of the Marne Ocean is granted. Looking over the ledge reveals that if one were to fall from here, although they would be deceased, they would find themselves amongst beautifully lush copses of trees. However an impressive view this ledge gives, its titled at an angle and any sudden moves could easily send a person tumbling off of it.
Unlike many of the shelves and overlooks in the eastern mountain range, this ledge juts out to the eastern side of the mountains rather than the western. As a
result, a spectacular view of the Marne Ocean is granted. Looking over the ledge reveals that if one were to fall from here, although they would be deceased, they would find themselves amongst beautifully lush copses of trees. However an impressive view this ledge gives, its titled at an angle and any sudden moves could easily send a person tumbling off of it.
That's a painfully bad description, sadly there are many such artifacts left from the alfa building stage, when there was so much work to be done that checking every single room just wasn't feasible. Sadly fixing them all is something that will take forever, as it would mean rewriting large parts of the basin. anyone feeling particularly masochistic?
Aiakon2007-04-18 11:37:56
QUOTE(Elostian @ Apr 18 2007, 11:34 AM) 399593
That's a painfully bad description, sadly there are many such artifacts left from the alfa building stage, when there was so much work to be done that checking every single room just wasn't feasible. Sadly fixing them all is something that will take forever, as it would mean rewriting large parts of the basin. anyone feeling particularly masochistic?
Sadly fixing them might take forever... but what if you happily fixed them!
Actually, I wouldn't mind fixing room descriptions. Correcting other people's work is easypeasy next to having original ideas of your own. Which is something I'm not terrifically good at.
Unknown2007-04-18 12:38:38
Speaking of correcting others, I just realised that Aiakon is the Simon Cowell of Lusternia. Magnagora Literary Review
Shiri2007-04-18 12:44:56
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Apr 18 2007, 12:37 PM) 399602
Correcting other people's work is easypeasy next to having original ideas of your own. Which is something I'm not terrifically good at.
QFT.
Gwylifar2007-04-18 15:13:37
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Apr 18 2007, 05:03 AM) 399573
Obviously, ghosts are heavy. Souls aren't though - souls can walk across water, but ghosts get waterlogged. It's why you never see the spectres off spectre island. They'd love to be doing a little swimming... but what happens is they sink.
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