Hello everybody! I'm a level 44 Mugwump Axelord in the Ebonguard and am considering using my freebie reincarnation. This is likely to be my first and final race change so any comments or advice is appreciated.

Some things to consider: I am unlikely to purchase massive amounts of credits anytime in the near future (think in the <=200 credit range) so I am mostly interested in bashing denizens and purchasing credits IC. I am interested in PvP enough to participate recreationally but it would be a very minor factor. I am new enough to RP that I don't have any preference for any races.

I'm not powergamery enough to go for whatever race is considered the best. At the same time I am not a masochist and would prefer not to make things too hard on myself. With some experience I will develop my own preferences and will refine my character with credits. For now, I like trying everything so mostly I would like a character that is versatile enough to contribute in mahy different situations.

After poking around the forums and consulting with other players in game, I have narrowed my options to the following. In no particular order:
Krokani - They seem to be great warriors but I am confused as to their unpopularity. Is it because of the cutting damage penalty?
Taurian - They seem to be decent all around.
Faeling - I would be able to spec as a shadowlord. Word is that they make great warriors but I am already an axelord (I could switch to blademaster I guess but I don't think it's worth doing) and half of the guild is faeling
Human - I quest a lot more than I bash, so I can take advantage of their exp bonus (Aside: how significant is this bonus anyways?) and if I ever get to the upper levels their stats will be on the level of Krokani and Taurian. The problem is getting there.
Loboshigaru, Igasho, Orclash - I am mostly indifferent and don't have any opinion

Some choices I have thrown out
- Because I am an axelord, I was initially going for dwarf, but it is unanimous that they are more or less worthless in every respect so i have thrown them out.
- Aslaran: I would most likely prefer pick Faeling over Aslaran
- Mugwump: I'll miss being a Mugwump, but apparently I am the only mugwump warrior for good reason.

Edit: I made a typo on the thread title. Is there any way to fix it?

Tae'dae.

Pros:
-Great sip
-Good at tanking mobs/bashing
-Good at influencing (which can make you a lot of gold)
-Some pretty good damage/wound potential
-Lots of tae'dae in the Ebonguard

Cons:
-Magic weakness (can be negated)
-Slow balance (not a factor in bashing due to weapons with high speed)
-Slow equilibrium (not vital to a warrior)
-Low int (but you don't have to worry too much about mana kills, due to the good sip)

Follow my pro-tae'dae advice or their anti-tae'dae advice, just remember that all of us have biases towards certain races. I used to be anti-tae'dae, myself, before I tried one extensively.

Also, do NOT go Loboshigaru. I know from experience that they are borderline terrible for low-credit warriors, despite what people preach about the amazing regen. It's not amazing enough to make much of a difference, trust me.

True, sadly. It's really useful for bashing to have level 3 regen (I calculated about 8.5% of Den's max HP back a tic, but I could be wrong) since bashing is really simple, but it's not going to do you much good PvP. Actually, you could stick with Mugwump and go Night totem, because (as Armand refuses to stop pointing out to me) Nightkiss absolutely rocks. Though I think it would be a little difficult for a Night Ebonguard to actually get the money ICly to Trans Night, but I don't have too much experience with Glom so you might want to ask around if you want to follow that path.

Orclach and Taurian are my suggestions. Taurian can easily gain strength, has nice stats, no balance or equi penalty.
Orclach has very nice resistances, a fire weakness, and only equi penalty. The stats are average, but they should be great for bashing. PvP, the size could suck.
Tae'dae is a special case.

Stay Mugwump

Your race has a large impact on your fighting style. If you go faeling you'll be dishing out constant afflictions like mad, but personally I think faelings are better for 1-handers than 2-handers. As a 2-hander I'd recommend a high-strength race like taurian, lobo, or something. If you can see yourself bashing to at least 80+ human is amazing but before that it's mediocre.

Definitely don't stay mugwump. If you're going to try to kill people with nightkiss you might as well be a SD (unless you're going to try to use it as a finisher like Terenas did ages ago with moonburst, in which case you could just go for a race that has both a tolerable strength and tolerable int - high-level human is probably the best option here).

Tae'dae are a freakish race and should only be used by people who really know exactly what they're doing, and usually not even then. The balance/eq penalties are just too crippling (even though Ashteru seems to get a kick out of sitting in rooms with lots of guards and tanking them without any trouble at all).

Tae'dae

Pros- Big and fuzzy

Cons-teh suckage

shamarah has the good points for fighters. But if you are a night user and trans night and really just enjoy bashing. Mugwump is still okay. You'll have good health with surge and you'll bash with nightkiss meaning you won't have to pay for your weapons. and if you just stay for awhile you can build up the gold you need to get more credits or weapons and then switch. For bashing it's all about speed. so definately not tae'dae.

I hit at 3 seconds with 21 str. So no, bashing ain't bad as Tae'dae. Not at all.

Seriously, people, do some research before you bashing tae'dae. They can be at least as good as any other "warrior race", you just have to play them right.

I've never played a tae'dae (for long *cough*), so I'm not going to really comment after that one time on another topic. In my experience with Lusty (with all my various alts), I've played three Nihilists (Aughsul, Latonai, and a current one I'm not naming), a Moondancer (Kulthandae), a Blacktalon (Dareng), a Serenguard (Kesthine), two Aquamancers (Denust and Fendris), a Geomancer (Fendris >_>), a Celestine (a female Trill whose name escapes me), a Shadowdancer (can't remember name) and an Ur'guard (Dyzanrul). Now, of them... none were Tae'dae (Kulthandae but not for long) . I can only say, with utmost certainty, that Tae'dae absolutely suck at magical attacks. Tons of health and good resistances, but with a six - seven average EQ recovery on Nature Curse, bashing was pretty slow. I passed Newton solely on begging.

But since you're a warrior, whole other story. And I digress. Sorry for the ranting.

Exactly.

Equi is actually around 5.2 seconds.

Eh, I don't know. I've always viewed Tae'dae as double-edged swords. On the one hand, you have one of the highest constitution scores (and THE highest strength score) coupled with a decent charisma for the people who would rather influence than fight. On the other hand, there are the highest balance and equilibrium penalties in the game, along with that level 3 magic weakness. I suppose it's just how well you can balance those strengths to cover those weaknesses; you'll need a good system and probably advice from the Tae'dae who are already good at what they do.



It really felt like 6 - 7. I blame lag and the fact that my system is running slow at the moment.

Speaking of tae'dae.. would tailoring be a better tradeskill for tae'dae warrior than forging? I mean, Splendor Robes seem like they would make tae'dae more tanky than fullplate. It would greatly lower their suffering against magic damage, and the armor stats aren't so insanely worse than fieldplate that there is a big disadvantage there considering the tae'dae's natural resistances?

Tae'dae really suck. Period.

If there are peple playing and enjoying playing them.. I will respectfully disagree. They may not be a top tier combatant choice, but Ashteru has proven that they can be fully and capably functional.

Hm, before telling you to take Splendors or not...well, I'd have to know your specs. If you can only trans one skill, the additional protection from splendors with Magicproof prolly won't even be able to completely negate the weakness. But if you can get, for example, a few transskills, I'd say go with fullplate instead of splendors, for the additional warriorprotection. With transcendent Magic, Nightkiss and garb up, I am prolly already pretty nicely protected against Magic damage, freaks like Aesyra or people with a level 3 damage artie being the exception.

Respectfully disagree all you want boyo. I'm just trolling.

Thank you for all the input!

Well being a mugwump hasn't really bothered me all that much (it's good to be naive sometimes!) so perhaps I will remain mugwump until I see and learn more. Also I like the sound of using the savings from expensive weapon purchases to buy credits because who knows, I just might be able to save up for that dagger