Unknown2007-11-10 14:48:30
Tim Kring talks about what he did wrong this season in Heroes. It reads like an apology to the fans.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,0...27m+super+sorry
It looks like they are doing a season finale for Dec 3rd, especially since the writer's strike will prevent this show from getting traction this year.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,0...27m+super+sorry
It looks like they are doing a season finale for Dec 3rd, especially since the writer's strike will prevent this show from getting traction this year.
Unknown2007-11-13 20:41:42
So, new episode.
I think Adam may be simply using Peter as a sort of puppet to get his way. Or, of course, he could be honest about the working together to save the world thing. He always just seemed sort of menacing. Though it could just be the arrogance that would come with 400 years of indestructibility. I also find it slightly unlikely that he would have retained his perfect English accent after all those years in various places across the world. Either way, hooray for memory returningness!
Along that tangent, assuming Adam was right about Peter using his healing power to heal his mind, that implies that the ability can do more than just heal cells, and can also affect thought functions. It's always interesting to know more about how the abilities work.
I think Adam may be simply using Peter as a sort of puppet to get his way. Or, of course, he could be honest about the working together to save the world thing. He always just seemed sort of menacing. Though it could just be the arrogance that would come with 400 years of indestructibility. I also find it slightly unlikely that he would have retained his perfect English accent after all those years in various places across the world. Either way, hooray for memory returningness!
Along that tangent, assuming Adam was right about Peter using his healing power to heal his mind, that implies that the ability can do more than just heal cells, and can also affect thought functions. It's always interesting to know more about how the abilities work.
Noola2007-11-13 20:49:17
QUOTE(Ytraelux @ Nov 13 2007, 02:41 PM) 458070
So, new episode.
I think Adam may be simply using Peter as a sort of puppet to get his way. Or, of course, he could be honest about the working together to save the world thing. He always just seemed sort of menacing. Though it could just be the arrogance that would come with 400 years of indestructibility. I also find it slightly unlikely that he would have retained his perfect English accent after all those years in various places across the world. Either way, hooray for memory returningness!
Along that tangent, assuming Adam was right about Peter using his healing power to heal his mind, that implies that the ability can do more than just heal cells, and can also affect thought functions. It's always interesting to know more about how the abilities work.
I think Adam may be simply using Peter as a sort of puppet to get his way. Or, of course, he could be honest about the working together to save the world thing. He always just seemed sort of menacing. Though it could just be the arrogance that would come with 400 years of indestructibility. I also find it slightly unlikely that he would have retained his perfect English accent after all those years in various places across the world. Either way, hooray for memory returningness!
Along that tangent, assuming Adam was right about Peter using his healing power to heal his mind, that implies that the ability can do more than just heal cells, and can also affect thought functions. It's always interesting to know more about how the abilities work.
Oh, of course Adam's just using Peter. The thing is, he might actually think he's going to be saving the world - even if it means killing most of the people on it. All the best bad guys think they're the good guys after all. As for his accent, well, maybe he spent most of his time back in England anyway, I dunno.
I really enjoyed the flashbackiness of the ep. It was neat getting the answers to some of the questions I'd had, like how Nathan had escaped so unscathed.
I really enjoyed the flashbackiness of the ep. It was neat getting the answers to some of the questions I'd had, like how Nathan had escaped so unscathed.
Daganev2007-11-13 22:02:01
QUOTE(Ytraelux @ Nov 13 2007, 12:41 PM) 458070
So, new episode.
Along that tangent, assuming Adam was right about Peter using his healing power to heal his mind, that implies that the ability can do more than just heal cells, and can also affect thought functions. It's always interesting to know more about how the abilities work.
Along that tangent, assuming Adam was right about Peter using his healing power to heal his mind, that implies that the ability can do more than just heal cells, and can also affect thought functions. It's always interesting to know more about how the abilities work.
or.... The writers of the show just believe the human brain to be the same as a computer, and as data gets corrupted memories are removed.
Think of the hatian as a mental magnet which can wipe out powers, and has the extra ability of focusing his data corruption powers on specific data.
Shiri2007-11-14 04:13:34
Given that no one else I can think of has powers that are unconnected (other than Peter, Sylar etc. of course) I'd be inclined to think that the Haitian's power suppression and memory wiping are of a similar nature as well. If he can inhibit supernatural powers, then he can probably "inhibit" memories rather than simply erasing them. Why he can't stop doing so like he can with powers is another issue in that case, but at least it explains how the memories can get restored by healing
EDIT: I guess that isn't really a spoiler.
EDIT: I guess that isn't really a spoiler.
Unknown2007-11-15 00:23:51
Actually, in Season 1, HRG's wife was supposedly suffering from potential brain damage from all the times the Haitian worked on her, so I think the healing factor makes more sense when you think of it that way.
Unknown2007-11-16 20:36:52
Just wondering about ol' Adam. For him to have survived the explosion, and be 'impossible to kill', he would need to have regeneration on a cellular level. At least, entire limbs and whatnot.
So...if you cut off his head, does his body grow a head or does his head grow a body?
Or both?!
So...if you cut off his head, does his body grow a head or does his head grow a body?
Or both?!
Unknown2007-11-16 20:40:09
Seeing as how Claire's toe hasn't grown a new Claire when she cut it off, the body grows a head.
Noola2007-11-16 20:42:10
QUOTE(Sojiro @ Nov 16 2007, 02:40 PM) 458673
Seeing as how Claire's toe hasn't grown a new Claire when she cut it off, the body grows a head.
Actually, considering that damage to the brain seems to stall the process, maybe the head would grow a new body.
Daganev2007-11-16 20:55:44
Adam didn't get blown to bits in the explosion.
His charred corpse was sitting there intact right next to his helm.
His charred corpse was sitting there intact right next to his helm.
Unknown2007-11-16 21:04:10
Yes, but he did state that the reason for him being alive was that he could not be killed. Which would mean that decapitating him results in either a new head or a new body.
@Sojiro: I'm going to go out on a limb here (eh? eh?), and say that the head is a slightly more crucial part than the little toe.
@Sojiro: I'm going to go out on a limb here (eh? eh?), and say that the head is a slightly more crucial part than the little toe.
Unknown2007-11-17 18:57:03
I think the writers made a slip-up with the "Omigawd my toe regrows!" thing. In one of the early episodes, she got her hand stuck in the rubbish disposal for a second, and her fingers were completely mangled, with at least one being fully cut off, and others at least part off. And they all regrew just fine.
Unknown2007-11-17 19:41:41
Going along with my earlier (unanswered) question:
What if Adam was to be cut in half lengthwise (so each side had half the head)? Would he then be dead (thus proving that he IS kill-able, and the Company just doesn't have any creative members), or would both sides regrow (since it would make no sense if only one of two identical sides regrew the rest)?
What if Adam was to be cut in half lengthwise (so each side had half the head)? Would he then be dead (thus proving that he IS kill-able, and the Company just doesn't have any creative members), or would both sides regrow (since it would make no sense if only one of two identical sides regrew the rest)?
Richter2007-11-17 19:57:22
I'm assuming that'd kill him. Limbs and body parts are one thing, but having your head cut in half is another. Remember, there was a time when Peter couldn't regenerate because he had that shard of something stuck in his head, which inhibited his healing power. I'm going to guess having your head cut in half would -really- inhibit that.
Unknown2007-11-17 20:08:36
Hrm. Wonder why the Company bothered to keep him alive, then.
Unknown2007-11-17 22:23:55
In case they got someone fatally hurt and needed to use his blood, perhaps?
Shiri2007-11-18 01:50:38
In other fantasy/sci-fi settings when they explain this kind of thing, it's transpired before that there's some special area of the brain whose name begins with h (I think it's an actual part of the brain) that has all the cellular memory or something. They regenerate from that. And it's tiny too, so a normal killing won't do it. You'd have to completely incinerate them or something.
Richter, that's not strictly true. Imagine trying to sew two things together. You can do it just fine. But you can't if there's something in the way. Especially if it's obstructing an important part of the pattern you're making.
Richter, that's not strictly true. Imagine trying to sew two things together. You can do it just fine. But you can't if there's something in the way. Especially if it's obstructing an important part of the pattern you're making.
Zalandrus2007-11-18 05:01:17
The hippocampus?
But anyways, I thought the gist of the power was that people with that power can heal themselves as long as nothing foreign remains in their body (ie the glass shard). I wonder what happened to the toe Claire cut off, but I'm more curious about if she can cure off
But anyways, I thought the gist of the power was that people with that power can heal themselves as long as nothing foreign remains in their body (ie the glass shard). I wonder what happened to the toe Claire cut off, but I'm more curious about if she can cure off
the disease, which they'll probably inject into her soon...
Unknown2007-11-18 09:08:45
QUOTE(Zalandrus Meyedsun @ Nov 18 2007, 05:01 AM) 459013
The hippocampus?
But anyways, I thought the gist of the power was that people with that power can heal themselves as long as nothing foreign remains in their body (ie the glass shard). I wonder what happened to the toe Claire cut off, but I'm more curious about if she can cure off
But anyways, I thought the gist of the power was that people with that power can heal themselves as long as nothing foreign remains in their body (ie the glass shard). I wonder what happened to the toe Claire cut off, but I'm more curious about if she can cure off
the disease, which they'll probably inject into her soon...
Why would they inject the disease into her? They want to inject her blood into someone else to try and cure them, not infect her and take away her powers, that would be useless.
Unknown2007-11-20 17:21:36
Was that Adam or the Company that brought Noah back? The room he woke up in seemed a bit more funky than the Company facilities we've been seeing, and I'm not sure why Bob would want to risk bringing him back. Adam, on the other hand, would have tons to gain.
And I'm actually really curious about whether its Adam or Bob that will release the virus. They're setting it up to make it seem like it could be either or. Bob is playing with it, but Adam knows he's immune--however, in the future that Peter visited, Adam wasn't revealed as holding some supreme position of power, so it makes me lean towards Bob.
Also, Matt's new ability kinda makes Eden looked pretty sad. And if all of the Hero's powers seem to be able to develop, I wonder what Flight would result in? Is Flight some sort of gravity-control or is it simply a different early-manifestation of Telekinesis, or something all together different that might develop in some interesting way?
And I'm actually really curious about whether its Adam or Bob that will release the virus. They're setting it up to make it seem like it could be either or. Bob is playing with it, but Adam knows he's immune--however, in the future that Peter visited, Adam wasn't revealed as holding some supreme position of power, so it makes me lean towards Bob.
Also, Matt's new ability kinda makes Eden looked pretty sad. And if all of the Hero's powers seem to be able to develop, I wonder what Flight would result in? Is Flight some sort of gravity-control or is it simply a different early-manifestation of Telekinesis, or something all together different that might develop in some interesting way?
