Example of a successful pacifist? Ialie I think

Example of a successful pacifist? Ialie I think

This coming from someone who I saw get vengeanced more than once during that event? He doesn't fight back? He doesn't attack? Ok you have to stop before I need to get some hipwaders the BS is getting deep in here.

@Simimi Everyone knows Zacc says he's a pacifist and that whole story. Everyone generally treats -real- pacifists like that. Xiran almost never gets jumped in faethorn or anywhere, maybe once or twice she was cause of an angry wyrdo don't remember which, but there's only a few who are ever willing to jump non combatants from Glomdoring. No one leaves Zacc along cause he strips whatever herbs he wants, he's hypocritical where he complains about stripped herbs and then strips other herbs, he tries to claim herbs and still somehow believes that they are his herbs. if'd he just and stop stripharvesting herbs, a lot of people would eventually start to leave him alone and eventually because things don't just happen overnight.

Then stop claiming you don't attack or do anything.... you do, harden up little man. Oh and PK CAREFUL ON is your friend

Really, selective memory. Just FYI for those not paying attention- what led to Zacc stripping herbs? Yes, the constant harassment he received. You'd know, Krellan, you sparked it. All those time I was peacefully harvesting on Astral and then you decided to attack. See, it didn't start with Zacc strip harvesting. It started by a hypocrit attacking him and then pointing the blame for the future attacks at his response to those attacks. And notice, Krellan has really been the only one to continually bother Zacc. Actually, if it wasn't for him trying to seek the aid of others to slay me on Prime multiple times to avoid the Avenger, I'd say he was the /only/ one to act against Zacc so far. It's starting to seem more like harassment than anything else. The whole herb stripping thing is a pretty recent development in response to your actions, Krellan. So really, cut the BS and stop trying to shift the prime reason for all of it. Oh, and you accuse Zacc of strip harvesting, and you've openly admitted IG and OOC that you do just the same.. hypocrit much?

Example of a successful pacifist? Syntobis?

Isn't Tully a pacifist pretty much? I'd call him successful, and most of that is because of charisma. I could be the most bloodthirsty warrior in the game, but I'd surely be criticized by my peers for killing the friendly janitor of the Basin.

Isn't Tully a pacifist pretty much? I'd call him successful, and most of that is because of charisma. I could be the most bloodthirsty warrior in the game, but I'd surely be criticized by my peers for killing the friendly janitor of the Basin.

If yo make it known you are a pacifist and stick to that roleplay, people generally (This includes people like Daevos/Ixion/Revan/Forren/Thoros/Amaru etcetcetc ad infinitum) will leave you be. They may not like you in their space and will run in and threaten you, or hit you with a few afflicts as a way of saying GTFO! but generally, they don't just waltz in and kill you.

Zacc, I'm just wondering. Why does choosing to be a pacifist automatically gives you the power to be immune to harm?

Also, the pacifist's path is to accept that he will die more often than a combatant. Either that, or learn how to run like crazy. No pacifist expects to be sheltered just because he chooses not to harm anything or anyone else. Life doesn't work that way. Don't expect a game to. When you -choose- to be a pacifist, you -willingly- choose a -harder- path.

Caerulo is a semi-pacifist (I don't bash, only defend), and I have come to accept that when I try to defend, I have a higher probability of dying.

hah i remember getting beckoned out of Seren territory. it was actually by thoros too when he was a celestian. The only problem is when people have all of these methods to move out of territory. Targeted beckon is stopped by shield, but not room beckon so it'll eventually work unelss there's an obstruction or no balance. blocking stops, but rad is only restricted by shieldings. So if you lack two blockers you'll eventually get hit cause icewalls will have to be constantly put up which means someone will be unshielded and such.

anyways I see a lot of good and bad aspects of taking away avenger protection from champions. they get the artifacts and such and are better and should be able to defend themselves or escape. the other side of the problem where champions could get griefed also has merit. if this change were made I would stalk Daedalion worse than Forren used to stalk me and I can two hit burst him even if he sips. I would do this over and over and over until he finally stopped going after non fighters from seren just because he can't kill anyone else on his own. He also refuses to accept duels from what I've heard from at least Rika and Liam and probably several others because he doesn't trust other people to respect duels which is just absurd. you'll know if you can't trust someone to stay out of a duel or not and I say absurd cause he has refused to duel someone because I was merely logged in and I would jump him even though I told him I knew what a duel was and would stay out.

@ildaudid if you were a seren or came to seren I think you'd despise Daedalion more than Lysandus. I don't have much problem with Lysandus. I mean I didn't like when he posted that log of killing I think Athana in tosha with Genevieve once, but oh well. He dueled her one on one afterwards.

Was I?? I dunno, maybe, the whole Seren war was a while ago, and my memory isn't that good concerning arguments I get into. If I was, I need a foot-in-mouth emoticon.
I thought issues were strictly concerning bug abuse, and technically this isn't a bug. Therefore I haven't issued yet. I don't want to just issue though every time this happens, I want the mechanics changed so that this sort of thing doesn't happen.

Also I'm curious as to why Champions even can get vengeance? Isn't that their job? It seems a bit odd. If a Champion calls vengeance on someone that should just strip their title heh.

Yeah, the whole Avenger system is so screwed up.

Can we adopt Imperian's PK system, plz?

Triple post = fail. Lemme merge those in a bit.