4. Grace is permanant until rejected.

Not my fault they aren't perceptive enough to realize that I'm not going to be forced into fighting just so they can slay me over and over and I have no chance against their /systems/ (really, that's all combat in IRE games boils down to).

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This is Achaea???? Like O-M-G! I had no idea!

Not my fault they aren't perceptive enough to realize that I'm not going to be forced into fighting just so they can slay me over and over and I have no chance against their /systems/ (really, that's all combat in IRE games boils down to).

Then how do you explain person A getting person B to slay you in order to avoid the Avenger system? Either way, both sides of it can be circumvented some way or other (at current). Those who are combatant have a higher gain- more rewards (xp from killing players/mobiles, and tradeskills on those planes). There's no justification for that. Not to mention there is far too much competition on Prime, it's far too small for so many people. Giving combatants several methods of rewards, and several combatant-only areas is not fair. As it is now, combatants have far too many rewards and benefits when compared to those who don't want to participate in combat.

Things that need to be changed about the PK system:
If Grace is removed from nonPrime planes-
1. Tradeskills do not rely on resources off Prime.
2. More influencing/hunting areas on Prime.
3. Command that marks someone as a noncombatant- giving them special status in the Avenger system. Any attacks against them is instant suspect, death is instant vengeance. They may not attack back or any form of hostile action. Command may not be changed without some sort of very very expensive cost (lots of credits, lots of exp, extensive quest, lots of gold.. etc). This prevents it from being turned on and off at a whim. Perhaps a time limit.
3a. If this is so, then a review of all abilities in all skills needs to be done to determine which are and aren't combat related.
3b. Strip harvesting (harvesting to 0) is made an offensive action.
3c. Corpses of players may not be picked up unless mutually allied. Or time limit is added after death to prevent triggered pick up of corpses, though, this would hinder noncombat related deaths.
3d. Noncombatant status is removed upon entering enemy territory and other planes.
4. No Grace during revolts, but noncombatant status still applies for those who have it (this is also why a safety to keep people from turning it on and off is needed).

If Grace is removed completely-
See above.

If Grace is kept, but harvesting and other skills are made hostile-
1. Harvesting below 1 is hostile.
2. No Grace during violent revolts.
3. Player corpses may not be picked up. Or see 3c above.
4. Grace is permanant until rejected.
5. Grace is removed upon entering enemy territory.

I don't see how any of that would be ridiculously abusable or unfair. Everyone gets what they want.. noncombatants can do their thing without worrying, and combatants can do their thing without being bothered by noncombatants.
Fixed.
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This is Achaea???? Like O-M-G! I had no idea!

Ok this post made me go WTF. Really zacc part of a pacifist RP is to get bullied by combatants, they then can do two things, either stay their ground and call the bully's bluff (and likely die) or run away. If you have ever read a fantasy story that contained pacifists (like the tinkers in Wheel of Time) you would know this. And accept this.

Also a pacifist is not someone that will do conflict quests like you do Zacc, a pacifist will have a hard time to get enemied in Lusternia.

Now to reply on those demands you want in exchange:
1. there are currently no tradeskills demanding you to go off prime
2. I am all for more influence areas, anywhere, but the main influence areas are on prime and in aetherbubbles
3. Why not give them permanent divine fire while you are at it, as in this is a RP degenerative idea

If you want to play a pacifist without any of the trouble that will and should come with it, I suggest you play habbo hotel. If you seriously want to play a pacifist in a conflict based fantasy setting I suggest, to put it like Murphy, You take a can of Harden Up and accept the fact you will be bullied, although Zacc is far from a pacifist but ok one might change their rp style.

That would include Achaea. Thanks for re-emphasizing that you're just a whiner that wants his way, consequences or experience of the entire community be damned, by continuing to post in this fashion, however.

OMG!!! Like Imperian??? I smell EPIC FAIL. I mean, seriously, don't we have enough problem with the occasional novice walking around with Innocence into enemy territory and preaching (yelling or speaking) what would get a non-novice killed? (ex. Celestian novice walking into Mag and yelling about how the taint is wrong and Light is good, etc. etc.) That's annoying to the org and would normally have you enemied (and in the case of this example crucified, fossilized, swallowed up in a chasm, beheaded, or possibly executed and hung at the gates.) And you want to give that kind of power to NON-NOVICES? People who obviously know what they're doing?

EDIT: Oh, and to add to that aforementioned methods of death: sacrificed to the Lords and Lady of Nil.
Eh, not necessarily. You can find people who go manual, just they're never really noted as the best fighters. You can do fairly well with aliased curing and stuff.

lusternia is based around conflict. or go find somewhere else and be a pacifist

Like gosh.. it's so totally unfair to the rest of the game because I can't attack them and they can't attack me.. I also can't act against them in any way.

To be fair, no tradeskill relies on any non-Prime plane. Sure, Sparkleberry and Earwort are a large source of income for herbalists, but herbalists can make a large enough profit by sticking to Prime alone. Of the thousands of gold I spend regularly on herbs, a very small portion of those are Outer-Plane-Herbs.

Stripping earwort acts against the entire playerbase interested in combat.

Really, what's the harm in making harvesting aggressive? Would prevent Celest from easily harvesting earwort, but I thought the herb layout was designed to do just that?

To be fair, no tradeskill relies on any non-Prime plane. Sure, Sparkleberry and Earwort are a large source of income for herbalists, but herbalists can make a large enough profit by sticking to Prime alone. Of the thousands of gold I spend regularly on herbs, a very small portion of those are Outer-Plane-Herbs.

(ex. Celestian novice walking into Mag and yelling about how the taint is wrong and Light is good, etc. etc.)

Zacc is more than willing to forget all combatant skills to become a protected pacifist.. he's already hinted at it IG.. but he's not going to sit there and be slain over and over simply because he's easy xp. Though, he doesn't fight back when attacked, which says quite a bit about him.

This coming from someone who I saw get vengeanced more than once during that event? He doesn't fight back? He doesn't attack? Ok you have to stop before I need to get some hipwaders the BS is getting deep in here.