I'm not doing too badly as a bard. I might switch to Lobo or Aslaran, but all the same.

Note that every race can EITHER be an at least half-decent warrior or a half-decent bard, even if they excel at something else.

In the same way any race can be a half decent mage or warrior or guardian. I meant in spite of the low charisma (music uses ego and mana) and intelligence.

Edit: Certianly wouldn't mind them with either a lesser penalty or a speed boost, but I'm not experiencing any massive problems, or forseeing any.

Dwarf can be nothing kthanks bye

Narsrim was doing a dwarf, if I remember. Maybe Amaru, too. I can't remember.

Oh well. Make my decisions for me, when I finally get tired of low ego, Aslaran or Loboshigaru?

( love the lobo name. LoboSHIGARU. I can't stop saying it out loud.)

There was some change that made them stop using dwarves - I forget what.

Wasn't it the Balance and Equilibrium Penalty?

That would be the huge racial overhaul that changed every single race. Mugwump only used to be L2 eq before then, don'cha know.

Tuek and Narsrim were dwarves back when they were like soloing the demonlords, Dwarves basically had a lot better resistences, and level 1 eq and xp penalty, and I think their stats were moved around as well. There's probably something way back in the announces about it.

Now Dwarven sucks compared to Taurian, Krokani, Igasho and Orclach...

Not really, I'm doing alright as a dwarf bard, well for now, they have better Int then Taurian, which gives them more damage with minorsecond, and they have resistances all round.

Yeah... but Dwarves are more of a Warrior race... they have the Axe specialization for F's sake... that's what bothers me... Dwarves are supposed to be good Warriors, but they are not

Better than lucidians. I submit that lucidians are the worst race in the game for a warrior of any type.

Make another thread about the other races, this is Illithoids....

I really love bing an Illithoid, the RP of it, and the thought behind it, I even noticed that I wasn't slipping (failing) at disarming traps as much as I was as a human.

I really hope they make something that gives Illithoids just a little more oomph for me to feasably play one permanently without having to say I am a PvP pacifist.

Balance Increase would be nice, but really, even though every one is saying Illithoids are a magic using only race, I like the thought of being able to create and RP of escaping from the Kephera prisons. Learning to fight in a hell hole that the Kephera made us live in. Having to be strong to survive it, having to kill or be killed. Learning the ways of the blades, of the environment, etc to stay on top and be able to escape.

I don't think there would be a good way to sit and say, I was a mage in a prison, and none of the bigger Illithoids beat me up. I used magic while locked in cells with others who were fighting to stay alive and eat, etc.

I have no clue how many other Illithoid warriors are out there. I am guessing not too many. I know the class doesnt seem great for them, but the RP is just beautiful. If they ever make it a spec race.... I hope they gimmie some Str and some Int.... (I can live with the Int I have now, but the Str is just baaaad) Takes me 2 times as long to bash a mob.

I mean I could go Aslaran (especially if they were to make a dex based archetype) and get a hell of alot better stats and a balance bonus, but their RP is no where near as mallable as the Illithoid. I am very impressed with the race, and hope to see it refined even more for those who are brave enough to play them.

That's because Lucidians are a mage/guardian class

not the best one out there, though...


Illithoids have cooties

Perhaps. I switched to Warrior at about level 85 and with a crit rune. I frequently forget to flex, and it doesn't seem to hurt my bashing speed all that much, but that's probably due to the crits. I haven't exactly looked at it scientifically.. it's just seemed that way. In any case, I'll bow happily to your and Xenthos's view.

It's really easy, you know, both for Illithoids and Kephera. If you check each race's picture, you see them wearing leatherarmour and shortswords.
Back when the first racepics were shown, every race had a class that was in the game/is going to be added to the game. (For example, Shadowdancer Mugwump/Trill Guardian from Hallifax)
So, this leads to the conclussion (since bards don't use swords), that there's going to be added a stealth-archtype-thingy, when is not to say, but it will be.

EDIT: Furrikin would lead to stealth-ish too. Only ones I can't explain are Aslaran and Loboshigaru.

Hello! Tae'dae?

I thought about becoming a tae'dae telepath. Tanky and high charisma, and the balance penalty wouldn't apply to psionics balance.

Tae'dae make passing poor bards and workable (with lots of effort) warriors.