Here would be Estarra's opinion on the matter.


Take the human concept of hair, with the illithoid concept of protrusions, and you end up with fleshy hair. i.e tenticles

No, it shows that I'm right and you refuse to admit it with words. Conceding/failure to prove me incorrect is just like admitting that you were incorrect, FYI.



Long (groomed) fur and an acceptable birth defect.

Unless Crow Eyepeck specifies eyes. Does it? I really don't know, I'll change it if it does



That's not exactly what I meant.

Long fur falls out after winter ends. Do you only have long fur in winter? ^^
And how decides what's an acceptable birth defect and what isn't? You and your Verigod?

Hmm. You'll have to show me that, I'm still up for altering my description, unlike certain others.



What can happen in real life, yo. (Provided the defective person is still capable of functioning "normally". IE, no missing limbs. Missing toes, on the other hand, would be OK.)

That is what his tendrils is! Birth defects! Woo! Now I have cleared that up (Thanks to Ashteru) I can stop caring about what people think about it.

Proof there never was a guy with fleshy tendrils, plz.

How does a Tae'Dae even *get* bangs? They don't have hair!

Oh, and I want to see someone eyepeck this guy.

You know, that is your very good friend Kromsh.

Lucan, you keep saying you're "Not going against the canon". Lusternia's "Canon" is what we can glean from the game world and the texts and files the Admin have given us. The relevant pieces of information are, in the case of the illithoids, the art and the mobdescs. There is nothing in any of these sources that implies that illithoids can have sea anemones on their heads.

The relevant sources in your case are the racial info and what the admin have told us. Relevant info:

Only humans can crossbreed with other races.
You keep saying that Everiine was part human, which is fine. But he was still technically a Trill, therefore he took more after his trill parent, therefore he was not a human, therefore he could not breed with other non-trills.

Now I think about it, there aren't really any more sources that need quoting. If you bother to accept that the above statement IS all the game lore you're gonna get, then we're done. If not, keep making up your crackpot excuses, but don't expect those who read the info we're given will accept them.

I just want to say, that Dsiri has like ten tendrils, more or less. Not enough to really form a hair, don't you think?

Fleshy tendrils would require scalp cells to suddenly go, "Whoa, I wanna be a fleshy tendril" sometime during development.

This would be quite fascinating as scalp cells are skin cells, and so they don't just go "whoa, I wanna be a fleshy *anything*" and it happens. It requires something to actually *fill* said fleshy tendrils (Where'd that come from?). It would also have to happen uniformly over the scalp. Keep in mind Illithoids, being bald and slick-skinned, have nothing analogous to follicles or glands on their skin that could be responsible for that. Anyone with even the slightest understanding of genetics and developmental biology would laugh at the concept of entirely new appendages popping up like this with no precedent; it just doesn't happen, like you don't see human children with tentacles for arms, or beaks, or feathers.

Missing or mutilated body parts are different from nonexistent body parts suddenly showing up; and again, if you look like a freak, you're going to be laughed at and shunned by members of your own race (Or at least the five people who actually bother with roleplay nowadays.)

No, that's not the way this works. You have to find an example of fleshy tendrils, as I would have to find an example of someone born without an eye/eyes were you to challenge my statement. :P

And this is where I quote Wikipedia, in regards to bears: "Common characteristics of bears include a short tail, acute senses of smell and hearing, five non-retractable claws per paw, and long, dense, shaggy fur." With grooming, it could look like bangs. >_>



Fur, lulz.




I just want to know how eyepeck works. I have yet to get a solid answer. I said I was still willing to change my description, too. :P

No, see, it's rather easy. People can already get boils on their skin. You get people like that Elephant dude who had his bones growing all freaky like, and you have people who have six fingers, or siamese twins. All of those happen in -real- life. Now, in Lusternia, you can factor in taint, generally completely different races and countless other stuff, like being descendant of a giant tentacly thing.
So, it can happen that skincells decide, hey, let's build boils. And then they can decide, hey, let's make those boils long and small so they look like bangs.


@Kromsh: Your country has a beautiful thing. Innocent until proven guilty. So unless you find any IC argument that says "NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE LONG FLESHY TENDRILS!!!" he can have them.

You're wrong, I'm afraid. See: Verithrax's reply (which you seem to have not read fully), Wikipedia, and various other resources.


That can work the other way, too. Prove to me I'm incorrect, otherwise I'm telling the truth, considering I'm the one saying you can't have something.

*Kromsh casts Invoke Administrator IX.

What, you can't find proof? Too bad.



And I read Verithrax reply. It's based on real life humans, which is entirely correct. It however doesn't apply to Illithoids, since...they aren't human. Once Verithrax dissected a few of 'em, I'll gladly take everything he says as the truth.

Ahem.

YOU. CAN. NOT. PROVE. A. NEGATIVE.

Hence, it's never a matter of "Pruv u cant have tentacluz lulz"; the burden of proof is on people trying to make the point that tentacles show up out of nowhere in defiance of everything known about genetics, the game's own canon, and common sense.

And again, the Taint in its current form is NOT mutagenic.

So, please tell me a few things, dear Verithrax.
a) How do genetics apply to Illithoids?
B) Just because there isn't a mob with those tendrils doesn't mean they can't exist. The racedescription doesn't say anything about them.
c) Common sense? How? My common sense tells me mutations are entirely possible.

Taint was mutagenic. He was released a while ago. He could've gone through the surface down to Illithoids and affected them. Proof? They live in -tainted- underground.

Are you sure you read post 131?

Also, the presence of Illith disappeared once they splintered, so the Undervault wasn't tainted once the Illithoids appeared, amirite?

I guess you have to have your charachter stop teleporting or using magic in game. Since you know, that can't happen in real life.