Why is the DarkNest so utterly worthless?

by Shamarah

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Gwylifar2007-08-25 22:46:31
QUOTE(Furien @ Aug 25 2007, 06:40 PM) 436166
Or, better yet, a PLANT EGG command. Drops it on the ground and roots it firmly in place so that it can't be acquisitio'd or picked up by a non-Gloom.

I can't decide if that's actually a mixed metaphor or just, in the context of Glomdoring, appropriately gross.
Unknown2007-08-25 22:54:46
When the rezz process begins, the egg cannot be picked up.

Proposed changed:
Have the egg last 10-15 IG months.
EGG RECALL - Returns the egg to your hands.
Hazar2007-08-25 23:08:17
I would back up the two changes Synl just suggested. However, I feel the other remaining issue with the Nest is that it has effectively no ancillary benefits, at all, apart from 'free crowform' which, with the short decay time of the egg, is barely noticeable. I'm not sure what those other benefits could be - probably not more than three, more in the range of one or two - but they need to be there.
Unknown2007-08-25 23:10:46
Well, if the decay-time of the egg is increased to even just 10 IG months, that free-Crowform benefit becomes a fair bit nicer. If something further is needed, perhaps have it increase the amount of carrion you can store in your body? Or, even better, just have it allow mob-corpses to become body-carrion?
Hazar2007-08-25 23:19:13
QUOTE(Salvation @ Aug 25 2007, 06:10 PM) 436182
Or, even better, just have it allow mob-corpses to become body-carrion?


If it let me EAT mob corpses, I would die in ectasy. Especially if it let me go over 40 cap like eating player corpses does.
Krellan2007-08-25 23:50:43
i'm under the impression that Lich actually prevents essence loss of demigods. I always thought it wasn't supposed to, but currently when I asked Thoros about it, he said it does prevent the essence loss. Not sure if it was meant this way or not, but if it is, the same could be applied for demigods with an egg.
Hyrtakos2007-08-26 00:33:17
there we go! let's let the serens win this argument
Clise2007-08-26 00:40:40
Kaervas tested the egg the moment the construct was fully built, answer: Damn I just lost 100k essence.
Kaervas2007-08-26 01:15:54
No rezz skill stops a demigod losing essence and it works fine that way.

What if the crowform benefit was changed so that for people with crowform it either lowered the power cost to get the egg or allowed them to use carrion to get their egg?
Krellan2007-08-26 02:59:56
that's what I thought, but Thoros was telling me he wasn't losing any when he liched. I mean I guess he could be lying to be impressive, but sure.
Geb2007-08-26 11:38:23
I've heard Thoros say Lich stops essence loss too.
Unknown2007-08-26 18:38:26
QUOTE(geb @ Aug 26 2007, 01:38 PM) 436277
I've heard Thoros say Lich stops essence loss too.


That's from yesterday. It happened on prime too. I don't know how often he liched though:

#11 Lord Thoros La'Saet (Demigod)
#12 Merciless Chieftain Ashteru d'Illici, Weapo (Demigod)
#13 Master of the Bloodhunt, Hyrtakos Ta'Lykaio (Demigod)
#14 Avatar of the Even Blade, Forren Glacielle, (Demigod)

Thoros has lost his soul to the void, by the power of Father Talkan La'Saet, Hand of the Even-Blade.

Thoros has suffered a gruesome death through magic by the will of Shan, Shard of the Hymn.

Thoros has been torn to shreds by Sir Niente, the Ivory Lion.

Thoros has suffered a gruesome death through magic by the will of Shan, Shard of the Hymn.

#11 Merciless Chieftain Ashteru d'Illici, Weapo (Demigod)
#12 Master of the Bloodhunt, Hyrtakos Ta'Lykaio (Demigod)
#13 Lord Thoros La'Saet (Demigod)
#14 Avatar of the Even Blade, Forren Glacielle, (Demigod)


Also according to Daevos lich -did- cost essence when he was one. So unless it was changed -very- recently I'd say Thoros isn't quite telling the truth. wink.gif
Krellan2007-08-26 21:48:13
no i think he was. I can't recall exactly what he just told me earlier this morning but it was something like lich was bugged and I think he mentioned it's costing essence now cause he said he couldn't be so reckless. and he died like 6 times, about 4 being liched. Knowing Ashteru and Hyrtakos, if all of those cost essence since they were all on prime, he'd be a titan by now.
Unknown2007-08-27 09:12:39
QUOTE(Krellan @ Aug 26 2007, 11:48 PM) 436350
no i think he was. I can't recall exactly what he just told me earlier this morning but it was something like lich was bugged and I think he mentioned it's costing essence now cause he said he couldn't be so reckless. and he died like 6 times, about 4 being liched. Knowing Ashteru and Hyrtakos, if all of those cost essence since they were all on prime, he'd be a titan by now.


Hm if they happened on prime and outside Mag then yes. If they happened in Mag then no.

If lich does not cost essence however it's definitely a bug. Every rezz skill has always cost essence for demigods and it was always supposed to be that way. If there's a chance that lich doesn't it should definitely be bugged.

PS: I've asked Ashteru and Hyrtakos for their essence. Providing they weren't lying then Thoros lost -at least- 1.5 million with those four deaths. 2m would fit too and that would be the amount he'd lose from 4 prime deaths too. Now the question is how often did he lich isn't it?

As amusing as second-guessing can be, just bug it to be sure lich costs essence as it should. I still think Thoros is just trying to pull our strings though.