Mafia After Hours

by Unknown

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Saran2007-06-27 14:24:00
Ok seriously wtf. I just went through the thread and checked the following are the votes for yesterday(every one not just the final ones).

Iridiel: Bali
Shadow: Bali, Shayle
Shayle: Iridiel
Saran: Shayle, Iridiel
Othero: Iridiel
Okin: No vote
Bali: Shadow, Iridiel
Anae: No vote

check for yourself if you don't believe it. so either requiem had it wrong OR we have someone who can vote silently.
Unknown2007-06-27 17:29:32
vote saran

Saran is either really clever or really clueless.

*curiously looks at anae*
Shayle2007-06-27 19:35:12
What happens if the moderator miscounts?

And assuming nothing happens, and this is just another day, I think I'm going to vote: Anae because her shadiness knows no bounds.

Well, that, and she's said nothing hardly at all and seems to be trying to fly under the radar!
Unknown2007-06-27 20:08:57
Sorry I keep forgetting about this. Shadow was Georgia "George" Lass, for the town.

I can assure you, however, that forgetting the name/persuasion upon death is the only thing I've forgotten.
Unknown2007-06-27 20:09:18
Can requiem confirm what side shadow was on? Town or Scum?

Nevermind, he seems to have psychic abilities and ninja'd me!
Anae2007-06-27 21:37:31
I'm not TRYING to fly under the radar, people keep taking my computer away from me...

I'm also terribly bad at interpreting what people say.

But anyway,

Vote: Shayle

...because I resent being called shady and I'm afraid of you IG.
Unknown2007-06-27 23:52:19
*peer anae*

I have a feeling very few townsfolk remain.

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Saran2007-06-28 01:01:41
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 28 2007, 03:29 AM) 421123
Saran is either really clever or really clueless.

*curiously looks at anae*


*peer Bali*

You just called me clueless when I backed up your vote count, according to that count and that requiem said we needed five votes on a single person to lynch Iridiel shouldn't have been.

Vote: Bali you didn't give that much info for your vote, bandwagony, and you seem quite scummy.
Unknown2007-06-28 01:17:38
Thats it. You dare call me scummy? I don't care if I'm assassinated in the night, but I do care if I am lynched by my own team. I will not have it. I am town, and I want town to win.

My role is unimportant. I'm an expendable ensign from Star Trek. Anae might be able to back me up on this. ( Meaning I have no powers - also, Anae, I'm sorry for what I told you earlier, I don't think you're scum and we need to band together to beat the scum! ) Sure, I might not give away alot of information in my posts but thats because I didn't want to clearly state what side I'm on. Too late for that now, though.

With shadow gone, hope for the townspeople dwindles. We need unity right now to win, to kill the criminals. Me, Othero, and Anae - all townspeople.

I am quite positive Okin is scum. Otherwise, he would have never said this:

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I think it's really strange that Othero's essentially confirmed town, but hasn't been killed yet. Maybe we were played for fools with that roleclaim? Especially since we haven't seen any pro-town roles, like Doctors or Cops.


Also, he has the ability to vote silently, and that in itself seems scummy.

Okin is scum, he has to be.

That leaves Saran and Shayle.

Saran, you have been iffy, to and fro, seemingly random. I can't take anything you say at face value - but that doesn't mean you're scum. If you're nothing but hypocritical scum, the votes against you are warranted. If you aren't scum, tell us who you are, join us, and Othero and I will reverse our votes to target Okin, the most likely scum. And the townspeople will soon have the majority and hopefully win.

And to be honest I have no idea about Shayle. It could go either way.

So take what I said into consideration if you're town. If you're scum, well, you can just go to hell because we're coming after you.

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Amarysse2007-06-28 01:50:09
It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Okin2007-06-28 02:20:40
Bali, you say a lot of things in that post with very little to back it up - that you shared anyway. You state that yourself, Anae and Othero are all townspeople for no reason, after admitting you have no night powers. Excuse me if I ask: Umm, how?

About my post: This is the first mafia game I've played that hasn't been moderated by Quidgy. I'm used to to the deaths of players being followed by (Doctor Cop Mason Vigilante - Town). I looked around for something I saw that was kinda scummy, saw that, and voted for Othero. Othero quite rightly pointed out my brainfart, I felt like an idiot, and changed my vote.

I don't have the ability to vote silently. I don't know how to respond to that claim except by saying that I don't, because you've given no reasoning.

My response to your post, Bali, is less "ZOMG ur wrong!" and more "Where the hell did that come from?"
Unknown2007-06-28 02:42:26
QUOTE(Okin @ Jun 27 2007, 07:20 PM) 421286
Bali, you say a lot of things in that post with very little to back it up - that you shared anyway. You state that yourself, Anae and Othero are all townspeople for no reason, after admitting you have no night powers. Excuse me if I ask: Umm, how?

About my post: This is the first mafia game I've played that hasn't been moderated by Quidgy. I'm used to to the deaths of players being followed by (Doctor Cop Mason Vigilante - Town). I looked around for something I saw that was kinda scummy, saw that, and voted for Othero. Othero quite rightly pointed out my brainfart, I felt like an idiot, and changed my vote.

I don't have the ability to vote silently. I don't know how to respond to that claim except by saying that I don't, because you've given no reasoning.

My response to your post, Bali, is less "ZOMG ur wrong!" and more "Where the hell did that come from?"


I notice you do not defend yourself against my accusation. This only further confirms my point. After reading your post, it just seems like a desperate attempt to keep your cover from being blown. It's like your clawing at the bottom of a pit manically, trying to get out. You've been ghostish ever since I think it was, what, page 13-14 Someone silently voted for Iridiel. Requiem didn't get it wrong. He said, "Except for Okin, who is a spirit of half-life." Whatever that means. Sounds scummy.

I've been gabby girl outside in PMs. I can talk to certain people during the night - thats not really a power. I've got strong instincts, I admit. But they aren't usually wrong.

And if your only defense against my accusation is:

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"ZOMG ur wrong!"


I think don't think you're a criminal mastermind, but a scum nonetheless with some sneaky powers. The only thing deterring me from voting for you right now is my vote on Saran, who I'm also concerned about. In retrospect, voting for him might have been a mistake. The only thing keeping my vote on him is self preservation. I should have targetted you. But if I'm going down, I'd like to expose you while I can! It comes down to Shayle...
Okin2007-06-28 03:22:52
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 28 2007, 01:12 PM) 421304
I notice you do not defend yourself against my accusation. This only further confirms my point.


Umm... my whole post was a defence against your accusation. I challenged your authority to make the assertions you were making, expressed disbelief, and clearly stated that I -don't- have the ability to vote silently.

Because Bali's arguments seem to consist of unsupported statements at the moment, allow me to respond in kind: I'm not scum.

QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 28 2007, 01:12 PM) 421304
You've been ghostish ever since I think it was, what, page 13-14 Someone silently voted for Iridiel. Requiem didn't get it wrong. He said, "Except for Okin, who is a spirit of half-life." Whatever that means. Sounds scummy.


As far as I can tell, this is the only actual argument you've levelled at me. I was slightly absent during the second day, this is true. I was distracted IRL, and that's my only excuse. If a few days of distraction are 'scummy', then I'm certainly not the only scummy person here. Requiem's "spirit of half-life" quote was in reference to his failure to class me as alive or dead in either the first post or the Daybreak Post.

If you'll re-read my post, you'll see that I simply said the point of what I was saying was not ZOMG UR WRONG, but was, instead: I don't understand the argument you're levelling at me, and am in fact rather dubious that you have any reason to suspect me at all. Please explain your position more clearly so that I may respond appropriately. In fact, that seems like a good theme for this post.

I don't understand the argument you're levelling at me, and am in fact rather dubious that you have any reason to suspect me at all. Please explain your position more clearly so that I may respond appropriately.
Unknown2007-06-28 04:56:57
suspicious.gif I don't remember saying you could speak for me Bali? I acctually don't trust that your town. Your comments to me were very pressing on who we should vote, You were very adament that we get rid of certain people without giving me real proof. You then wouldn't tell me your role. If your town and you belive I'm town then why won't you tell me? because I'd already revealed mine? That is a fairly scummy reason. It is strange I wasn't killed even though I'm confermed town. You said so yourself. Also if you can talk to me at night, why now?

Unknown2007-06-28 05:34:21
*hardcore mafia mode*

Concrete proof is a hard to come by in a mafia game. All that you really have when it comes to the cold matter of proof is usually direct contradictions, discerning hidden meanings, and your "gut".

@Othero

I just assumed you'd be willing to go along with me. And I did reveal my role, just now. I'm just an honest townsperson trying to rally the right people to lynch the right people. I beg that you trust me! That goes for you too, Anae. You'll regret it if try to lynch me - one of your last allies will be dead, and the scum will most likely win.

@Okin

My argument is a simple one. Currently, out of all the potential suspects, you are most likely to be scum considering the facts and implied innuendo. A: You're strange afk/ghost status. B: The silent vote against Iridiel C: The remark about Othero. Saying this in public seems like an attempt to get other scum on your bandwagon. It's just not something any reasoning townsperson would say. Why would you try to make another townsperson a target? Othero hasn't played you all for fools, he IS town. He used his 'town power' - I don't see the confusion. D: Implying that I somehow rigged my vote count to 'trick' Saran or the others into whacking Iridiel. My count was flawless, I looked it over, I could find no errors. The silly implication leads me to believe that you had ulterior motives in hiding your own silent voting ability. E: Your aversion to directly respond to my accusations e.g "I'm not scum, etc etc (although you said you weren't scum, hmph)" If you do live through today you'll probably end up killing me during the night so what do I have to lose?


Anyways. I'm tired and delirious. Must sleep. Can't wait to hear from Saran. I'll see you tommorow, Mafia denizens <3 <3 <3
Okin2007-06-28 06:06:19
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 28 2007, 04:04 PM) 421348
My argument is a simple one. Currently, out of all the potential suspects, you are most likely to be scum considering the facts and implied innuendo. A: You're strange afk/ghost status. B: The silent vote against Iridiel C: The remark about Othero. Saying this in public seems like an attempt to get other scum on your bandwagon. It's just not something any reasoning townsperson would say. Why would you try to make another townsperson a target? Othero hasn't played you all for fools, he IS town. He used his 'town power' - I don't see the confusion. D: Implying that I somehow rigged my vote count to 'trick' Saran or the others into whacking Iridiel. My count was flawless, I looked it over, I could find no errors. The silly implication leads me to believe that you had ulterior motives in hiding your own silent voting ability. E: Your aversion to directly responding to my accusations e.g "I'm not scum, etc etc (although you said you weren't scum, hmph)"


Hurray! This argument is much more specific.

A: I was distracted IRL. Not a great excuse, I know, so count this one against me if you like.

B: ...I -didn't- silent vote against Iridiel. Why do you think I did?

C: OH! Now I understand why you thought that post was scummy. My post was pointing out that although it seemed everyone was convinced that Othero was town, he hadn't been killed. I thought this was very strange, since obviously Mafia would want to kill any confirmed town, because confirmed live townies increase the chance that mafia will be lynched. I didn't see any reason he -shouldn't- have died (at this point, I was working under the assumption that we had no Doctors, etc.), so I figured one reason why he might not have died would be that he actually wasn't a townsperson, but rather that he was a mafia with a Stay of Execution power. I wasn't trying to target a townsperson, and when Othero quite rightly pointed out that we indeed DID have doctors, I retracted my vote.

D: I assumed your vote-count was flawed because Iridiel was lynched even though your vote-count said she shouldn't have been. At this point, I hadn't even considered the idea that someone might have the ability to vote silently. (Actually, that was my main reason for voting for you, wasn't it? Now that I know your vote-count wasn't flawed, Unvote: Bali.)

E: I'm not fond of saying something without being able to say "...and I can back this up with...". I didn't feel I needed to say "I'm not scum!" because your arguments didn't seem to hold water, and everyone playing implicitly wants everyone else to believe they're not scum anyway. I'll say it again, though: I'm not scum.
Saran2007-06-28 09:10:21
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 28 2007, 11:17 AM) 421269
Saran, you have been iffy, to and fro, seemingly random. I can't take anything you say at face value - but that doesn't mean you're scum. If you're nothing but hypocritical scum, the votes against you are warranted. If you aren't scum, tell us who you are, join us, and Othero and I will reverse our votes to target Okin, the most likely scum. And the townspeople will soon have the majority and hopefully win.


You complete dolt, I don't particularly want to roleclaim because I'M DEAD IF I DO however this is end game so it will have to happen

I am Gregory House M.D I am a combination Doctor and Investigator

On the first night I investigated Anae and found her to be Ensign Annonymous I believe on the side of the town, I'm still waiting for the results of my investigation of Bali *glare Requiem*

Your pushing me to role claim effectively means I'm out tomorrow night unless we lynch the last scum because no scum with a brain would allow me that last night.
Then again the scum could throw suspicion on me by not killing me and making this seem like a lie
Unknown2007-06-28 12:20:18
I find it a little hard to believe that you're House. Hmph. ( Why couldn't I get a cool role? >.< )

Most of the characters so far haven't been huge star characters, more averageish. Saying that you're House and an Investigator could easily be fabricated and an attempt to throw the townspeople off track, but probably not. Anae and I have the same role. This confirms partially what you're saying. Hmm! We're in quite the pickle then!

That's as close to proof as your going to get, I think. Saran is who he says he is. UNVOTE SARAN

After reviewing what Okin had to say, I'm tempted to believe him. He did unvote me and did make some valid points...but he didn't roleclaim.

I believe there are only one or two scum left. Right now I'm starting to think only one. We've covered all the bases: Anae can confirm I'm an expendable town ensign, I can confirm her role too, Saran can confirm what Anae is, It's a known fact Othero is town. So we're all town.

That leaves Okin and Shayle. Rawr.

Even though Okin did not roleclaim I think he adequately defended his townshipness. He says he isn't scum but doesn't say he's town...trickeh - but I trust him...for now. This leaves innocent little Shayle. Through process of elimination, I deduce she is the last scum. Search your feelings, you know she has to be ebil. *braces for Shayle's scorn*


VOTE SHAYLE
Saran2007-06-28 13:00:22
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 28 2007, 10:20 PM) 421381
I find it a little hard to believe that you're House. Hmph. ( Why couldn't I get a cool role? >.< )

Most of the characters so far haven't been huge star characters, more averageish. Saying that you're House and an Investigator could easily be fabricated and an attempt to throw the townspeople off track, but probably not. Anae and I have the same role. This confirms partially what you're saying. Hmm! We're in quite the pickle then!


Erm what are you on?

1. Shiri = Olivia Harper(Recurring character in Greys Anatomy)
2. Quidgyboo = Sydney Bristow (Lead Character in Alias)
3. Diamondais = Chad Shelton(Tracked it down to secondary character on Day Break) | Scum
4. Ytraelux = Peter Petrelli(Major Hero in Heroes)
5. Amarysse ???
6. Daganev = Sylar(Major Villan in Heroes) | Scum
7. Iridiel = Dr Miranda Bailey (Supporting Character on Greys Anatomy)
8. Shadow = Georgia Lass (Lead Character in Dead Like Me I am so jealous btw)
9. Othero = MacKenzie Allen Commander in Chief(Lead Character)

6 of the roles we have (including mine) are lead characters, it's likely they all had night powers too. You and Iridiel are most likely mean't to be vanilla townies, in a tv show that would be the background characters such as the ensigns, If Iridiel and you show up the exact same way then I've got my investigation results to confirm you are town.

I would put some trust in othero and if the lynch does not end the game we may posess the majority required to kill off the scum.
Unknown2007-06-28 13:12:23
Erm, what're YOU on?

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6 of the roles we have (including mine) are lead characters, it's likely they all had night powers too. You and Iridiel are most likely mean't to be vanilla townies, in a tv show that would be the background characters such as the ensigns, If Iridiel and you show up the exact same way then I've got my investigation results to confirm you are town.
Chad Shelton ? Miranda Bailey? Georgia Lass? Olivia Harper? MacKenzie Allen? Who?!?!?! And do you mean ANAE and ME? I claim no connection to Iridiel. Anae and I are alike, not Iridiel...

Maybe I'm not that big of a tv fan. Hmph.

I don't get you. You claim you're town but you still have me pegged for a lynch. I unvoted you. That's not very nice. sad.gif

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I would put some trust in othero and if the lynch does not end the game we may posess the majority required to kill off the scum.


EH?? That makes no sense, explain in detail please!