Okin2007-06-04 08:59:12
If we vote for Daganev for not making sense, he's SOO dead.
Having said that, I don't think Shiri's careless use of the past-tense is spectacularly scummy. He was talking about previous games, so he used the past tense.
As opposed to other past games where he -hasn't- been innocent is how I took it. The bracketed comment is there to make clear that innocent people bandwagon on the first day in general, he's not just talking about himself.
...and now I look like I'm defending Shiri. Damn. It's all Daganev's fault for making no sense!
Having said that, I don't think Shiri's careless use of the past-tense is spectacularly scummy. He was talking about previous games, so he used the past tense.
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...Look in every past game when I've been innocent (and most other people actually.)
As opposed to other past games where he -hasn't- been innocent is how I took it. The bracketed comment is there to make clear that innocent people bandwagon on the first day in general, he's not just talking about himself.
...and now I look like I'm defending Shiri. Damn. It's all Daganev's fault for making no sense!
Okin2007-06-04 09:04:56
And, I <3 you too, Shayle!
Unknown2007-06-04 11:18:29
I had some theories to post but this giant glass of chardonnay has knocked them out of my head. Next time my pretties!
Iridiel2007-06-04 13:56:30
Daganev is looking suspicious but he ALWAYS looks suspicious. In my last game I caught myself thinking he was scum when I knew the only scums in the party were my team.
But... If last time he was innocent maybe this time he's guilty! Then... Quid speaks funny so maybe I shouldn't remove my vote from him?
Give me a reason and I'll vote for you! But for now my very random vote stays
But... If last time he was innocent maybe this time he's guilty! Then... Quid speaks funny so maybe I shouldn't remove my vote from him?
Give me a reason and I'll vote for you! But for now my very random vote stays
Unknown2007-06-04 15:19:52
I'm going to Unvote: Shiri, Vote: Daganev. I'm not sure if Daganev isn't making sense for whatever reason makes him usually not make sense, or if it's because he's making roundabout, vague arguments because he's scum. So because helping lynch a potential scum is better than sitting there with a random vote, I'm voting for Daganev.
Daganev2007-06-04 15:59:41
Sheesh, this always happens to me on day one. You'd think I'd learn by now.
Shiri, I don't understand how having a random vote with no information helps us? Can you explain that?
I thought that since we have less info than the scum have, and there are more townies than scum, that puts us at a clear disadvantage. (i.e., on a random vote, odds are a scum will not get lynched) The only way to undo that disadvantage is with collective knowledge.
I'm willing to follow whichever strategy makes most sense.
Shiri, I don't understand how having a random vote with no information helps us? Can you explain that?
I thought that since we have less info than the scum have, and there are more townies than scum, that puts us at a clear disadvantage. (i.e., on a random vote, odds are a scum will not get lynched) The only way to undo that disadvantage is with collective knowledge.
I'm willing to follow whichever strategy makes most sense.
Daganev2007-06-04 16:02:19
You see, although we don't have -much- information day one, we do have some information. And that information is people's voting habits.
To me, being stubborn about your vote means that you are not concerned or scared about accidentally lynching a cop or a doctor or some other very important role. And that seems scummy to me. We have people's voting habits during day one, and their posting habits. Why not use that information to get a non random vote?
To me, being stubborn about your vote means that you are not concerned or scared about accidentally lynching a cop or a doctor or some other very important role. And that seems scummy to me. We have people's voting habits during day one, and their posting habits. Why not use that information to get a non random vote?
Daganev2007-06-04 16:16:50
Oh, and can you link the past games you played with the innocent people bandwagoning? I'm not very good at finding those sorts of links. Thanks!
Unknown2007-06-04 23:45:31
This is taking along time for the first round. O_O
How long do these game usually last?
How long do these game usually last?
Diamondais2007-06-04 23:49:08
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 4 2007, 07:45 PM) 414896
This is taking along time for the first round. O_O
How long do these game usually last?
How long do these game usually last?
The few I've been in, the beginning has always taken the longest.
Okin2007-06-05 01:43:33
Yeah, the games take ages.
Umm, random votes on Day One are how we get information. Sticking to a particular vote on Day One, a few RL days into a game, is not scummy. You just crossed some internal sense-demanding line.
Vote: Daganev
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...I don't understand how having a random vote with no information helps us...
Umm, random votes on Day One are how we get information. Sticking to a particular vote on Day One, a few RL days into a game, is not scummy. You just crossed some internal sense-demanding line.
Vote: Daganev
Unknown2007-06-05 02:48:17
I've run a game on here where I think day 1 lasted for around 10 pages of posts. I don't like it when the start lasts that long but it happens.
Anywho, I see where daganev is coming from but I really think it's a matter of clutching at straws on day 1. You might find some useful information to use, you might not, but in the end you're making a guess and you'll probably make the wrong one.
Anywho, I see where daganev is coming from but I really think it's a matter of clutching at straws on day 1. You might find some useful information to use, you might not, but in the end you're making a guess and you'll probably make the wrong one.
Saran2007-06-05 12:47:26
A hrm what should I have for dinner at 10:45 pm vote count
1)Quidgyboo - Iridel
3) Shayle - Quidgyboo, Bali, Shadow
1) Bali - Othero,
3) Okin - Saran, Daganev, Shayle
1) Othero - Amarysse
4) Daganev - diamondais, Shiri, Ytraelux, Okin
1) diamondais- Anae
I think that's right. Oh well just posting to keep me active. I certainly have no problem with getting rid of someone who is confusing us. I'm just going to leave my random vote for now.
1)Quidgyboo - Iridel
3) Shayle - Quidgyboo, Bali, Shadow
1) Bali - Othero,
3) Okin - Saran, Daganev, Shayle
1) Othero - Amarysse
4) Daganev - diamondais, Shiri, Ytraelux, Okin
1) diamondais- Anae
I think that's right. Oh well just posting to keep me active. I certainly have no problem with getting rid of someone who is confusing us. I'm just going to leave my random vote for now.
Unknown2007-06-05 13:56:02
I always like to get a bit of information day 1 where possible (though we have nothing to verify other than people's words at this stage), so, forcing someone to make a roleclaim sounds good to me:
unvote, vote daganev
That should put him at 5 if Saran is right.
unvote, vote daganev
That should put him at 5 if Saran is right.
Unknown2007-06-05 14:29:33
unvote shayle, vote: daganev
Anae2007-06-05 14:37:18
This day is taking forever, so...
Unvote: diamondais
Vote: Daganev
Unvote: diamondais
Vote: Daganev
Iridiel2007-06-05 15:06:52
Anae... You noticed you just ninja lynched Daganev without giving him a chance to actually roleclaim or say something?
Iridiel2007-06-05 15:09:07
Oh no, wait, he's 1 vote away from lynching, my fault. Next one is the lynch so better wait until he roleclaims...
I hate first days, they stress me out
I hate first days, they stress me out
Shayle2007-06-05 15:15:48
What do you mean by "roleclaim"?
(Sorry about my noob questions...)
(Sorry about my noob questions...)
Daganev2007-06-05 15:27:57
A roleclaim is where a person about to be lynched tells everybody who they are.
Well atleast now we have something to go off of. I hope people are paying attention to voting patterns.
I am Theodore "Ted" Sprague, from the T.V. show Heroes. I am a human bomb and can sacrifice myself to kill somebody else during the day. I win with the town.
Well atleast now we have something to go off of. I hope people are paying attention to voting patterns.
I am Theodore "Ted" Sprague, from the T.V. show Heroes. I am a human bomb and can sacrifice myself to kill somebody else during the day. I win with the town.