Unknown2007-06-08 12:57:30
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jun 8 2007, 06:58 AM) 415808
You don't NEED grace to ensure you don't die immediately. Avechna already fills that purpose.
EDIT: Didn't see Xenthos' post before. You seem to have entirely ignored my point; grace is redundant here because we have Avechna. Other games, which grace is a leftover from, don't have Avechna. Therefore grace is necessary there. It is strictly unnecessary here.
EDIT: Didn't see Xenthos' post before. You seem to have entirely ignored my point; grace is redundant here because we have Avechna. Other games, which grace is a leftover from, don't have Avechna. Therefore grace is necessary there. It is strictly unnecessary here.
It still has its uses on loyal outer planes (i.e. elemental/ethereal/cosmic, nexus worlds). Even in those cases, I think the ability to set up guards at hte nexus is much more helpful than grace - you have to reject grace in order to raise defs and actually prepare for combat anyway. I'd like to see it disappear in enemy territory or on non-loyal outer planes. I actually wouldn't have a problem removing it entirely, but that's mostly because I have conglut, so it's not a big deal for me to die off-plane, and Avechna protects on prime.
