But who created Fuzzy Lobsters?

Me!





Not really... But if I were gonna make a lobster, I'd totally make a fuzzy one! How cool!

I heard it in Glom's collegium group so I don't really have any place to cite it definitively. The non-existance of ravens and the idea that Raven turned into Crow when Tainted also transformed the other ravens through their spirit connection are a nice basis for that though.

Ravens were removed from Glomdoring when it was revealed that they listened to music that did not induce chanting or crying in the rain

I've heard it also said that there are no deer outside the Serenwilde too because that's where the White Hart lives. I think both assumptions are on shaky ground, certainly not anything convincing in any case. I don't see why there wouldn't still be ravens in other places, albeit in far fewer numbers, even if most of them were wiped out in the taint and became crows. Seems more like its just assumed there are no ravens anymore because its the path of least resistance and if its being tossed around in the collegium idea it'll likely find its way into canon eventually. C'est la vie.

Starsuckers and leeches are lesser versions of half-formed (they are actually incredibly similar to the creatures which came out of that distant creche and attacked the nexus worlds), created when Dynara was going around trying to refine the process of creating Gods. (This is the theory that makes the best sense to me, but should not necessarily be taken as the absolute truth.)

Also, should include aetherbeasts in your taxonomic study.

Pyrinnes (ask anyone who saw a pyrinne come to Lusternia proper?)
Gorgogs
Cloiers (gaseous things)
Slanikks (scorpion-like things)
Hydrians
Lixins
Elementals
Starbeasts
Scyllus
Black Dragons

Also, can we pin the blame for braineater parasites on Viravain?

I'm pretty sure there's deer outside Serenwilde. I'm including them in my book on wyrden ecology. Likewise, I've always assumed there's a few ravens, somewhere. If the Great Animal Spirits are 'collective souls', I've always thought it would be possible for there to be opposed fragments - wyrden stags, ravens - much like there are opposing views held within Maeve. But with a lesser degree of swing, because the population percentage concerned is much smaller.

We have starving deer in Glomdoring.

Feed the damn things then!!!! 'Tis not a dead commune anymore!

Think of Tabitha!

They're weak things, good for prey. If they were worthy, they would be able to find their own food. As-is-- they are not worth feeding, only consuming.

(That, and you'll see deer in "natural forest" environment events)

Well, thinking more clearly, I wonder if the "starving" part is meant to mean not that there's no food in the forest, but rather that they are suffering from Chronic Wasting Disease

Could be a good explanation for zombies, prions...it all comes down to prions, especially if you see Zombies as more like the Romero Zombies than the other kind...

Hmm...mmm, brains...

Okay, not sleeping for 30 hours makes me tired...

And we have been told that there are no Ravens elsewhere-- Raven being their collective Spirit, and then turning into Crow, turned ALL the Ravens who were connected to him at the same time. Since he was made up of all of them...

I've also never seen evidence for a wyrden stag. The starving deer aren't actually wyrden, just weak little remnants.

If you can understand deer, you can lead those starving deer back to White Hart. They're grateful for it.

I think it's more that Hart is more tied to the Seren "natural forest," and the little beings tied to Hart aren't able to draw enough vital essence from the Wyrden Woods to thrive. There's plenty of evidence for there being lots of food in the Glomdoring (forage, herbs, etc.). This leads to them being weaker-- alive, but not excelling.

Or you can just hunt them.

That's all they really deserve, anyways!

Aetherbeasts can live in aetherspace, and therefore do not have to breathe air or water. Therefore, they are not animals. If it is true that aetherspace creatures, dream leaches and starsuckers are somehow related to half-formed gods, then they were crated by Dynara, not the Seventh Circle, reinforcing the fact that they are not animals. Remember the definition of animals, my friends.



I know. I have always listed deer as living in both the 'wilde and Glomdoring. Although, it is interesting that there are still deer there, as whenever I inquire in my guild about the quest, I am told that there aren't any deer left in Glom, as they have all been returned to the 'wilde.

I'm not happy with the current names of kinds - biting, gnawing, slithering etc. Here is what I am thinking of changing them to. The term amphibian is used in the mugwump help file, and insectoid in the kephera help file, but I don't have proof of the use of reptile, rodent, raptor or avian in Lusternia. I can't find a good term for the hedgehogs and moles, I don't like calling them insectivores as the are in rl, as they do eat other things. I'd like to change Flapping Viravain to Songbird, but ravens and shadow hawks don't really sing.

The kinds are as follows:
1. Tae
2. Volkh
3. Lorella
4. Bollikin
4.1 Biting -> Musk
4.2 Gnawing -> Rodent
4.3 Crunching ->
4.4 Scraping -> Rock
4.5 Grinding (tentative) -> Furbeak
4.6 Flapping (tentative) -> Furwing
5. Charune
6. Centaubi
7. Blooredi
7.1 Scaled -> Reptile
7.2 Slithering (tentative) -> Serpent
7.3 Smooth (tentative) -> Amphibian
8. Viravain
8.1 Crawling -> Insect
8.2 Flapping -> Songbird
* Large Birds -> Raptor
* Tusker -> Tusked
* Fish


Latest changes:
*Shadow hawk added to Flapping Viravain.
*Kestrel moved from Flapping Viravain to Large Birds.
*Pigs group (inc. Warthog) added to Tuskers. (Unless Charune wants to claim elephants and pigs?)
* Amphista added to Slithering.
* Added domesticated to domesticated animals. (Charune said he did not create cows as they are now after domestication, so I'm assuming the same is true for the songless chickens and tuskless pigs).
* Added 'extinct' to ravens. Are we 100% sure that there are no other Ravens in Lusternia?

Also, could anyone get me a description of a slatefish? I don't have an aethership, and I can't find anyone to take me there.

I'd like to see a 7th circle create some new creature (even though the circles are pretty much obsolete and none of the Elders do their circle-duties regularly).

Didn't Viravain create lyrebirds recently? (Recently being relative for a god thats lived so long.)

No. I assume those were created before the Elder Wars like all of the other creatures. She was all wyrdy when Lyreth came through, so she wouldn't make something as cutesy as a lyrebird.