Unknown2007-06-24 11:23:53
You haven't been looking hard enough.
http://ironrealms.com/corp/profiles.htm
Nowhere on there is it so much as suggested that Aetolia and Imperian have the same producer. Dunno where you get your theories, but please don't share them with us before checking them out.
http://ironrealms.com/corp/profiles.htm
Nowhere on there is it so much as suggested that Aetolia and Imperian have the same producer. Dunno where you get your theories, but please don't share them with us before checking them out.
Unknown2007-06-24 11:39:45
I didn't want to put that link on the page since I know Estarra likes privacy, but since you did, I don't think you read the descriptions carefully.
I don't see a separate one listed for Aetolia. (I'm not counting associates). If you look at that, Achaea has two producers, Lusternia two, and Aetolia and Imperian are sharing a single one.
My whole point being--going by that page, Achaea has 2 full-time producers and 3 associates, Lusternia has 2 full-time producers and one associate, and Imperian and Aeotila have 1 shared full-time producer and 1 AP each. So I would think Achaea is king, Lusternia is the crown princess, and Imperian and Aeotila are the Duke and Count, which might determine relative rank. So it was a logical hypothesis.
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Now, Jeremy not only produces Imperian, but Aetolia as well....
I don't see a separate one listed for Aetolia. (I'm not counting associates). If you look at that, Achaea has two producers, Lusternia two, and Aetolia and Imperian are sharing a single one.
My whole point being--going by that page, Achaea has 2 full-time producers and 3 associates, Lusternia has 2 full-time producers and one associate, and Imperian and Aeotila have 1 shared full-time producer and 1 AP each. So I would think Achaea is king, Lusternia is the crown princess, and Imperian and Aeotila are the Duke and Count, which might determine relative rank. So it was a logical hypothesis.
Arix2007-06-24 11:59:21
I do like Lusty and Imperian, and would be quite unhappy if either were shut down. Lusternia because I love playing Arix, and Imperian because it was the first MUD I ever played, and I still play it every so often
Unknown2007-06-24 12:32:29
I didn't want to start a rumor about things shutting down. I was just talking about hypothetical situation, in case IRE grew too big or something. I hope everybody has a long bright future to come.
Okin2007-06-24 12:49:06
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Disclaimer: Lusternia is a functioning and changing world, and while we guarantee you will not lose any of the credits you buy, no such guarantee can be provided for what you purchase with the credits themselves.
It seems to me that IRE is obligated to keep its games running as long as there's a single character with any unspent credits purchased through the website, and the company isn't bankrupt. They probably have the technical option of refunding EVERYONE, but that's obviously not going to happen.
EDIT:
From the Terms of Service:
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9. Credits. ...You hereby agree that the chosen character's reception of credits purchased from the Company concludes the transaction, and that the Company has no further obligation to the User... The User hereby agrees that the purchase of credits from the Company does not constitute an investment of any kind... The User acknowledges that the Company does not provide refunds under any circumstance.
It seems I was wrong. There you go.
SECOND EDIT:
Wow. The ToS just get meaner as you keep reading.
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15. Termination. ...the Company reserves the right to terminate the Services, or any part thereof, at any time without notice and without further obligation to you. IN NO EVENT SHALL YOU BE ENTITLED TO A REFUND OF ANY FEES, CREDITS, OR OTHER PRODUCTS OR SERVICES PURCHASED FROM THE COMPANY... UPON TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT, YOUR ACCESS PRIVILEGES TO THE SERVICES WILL TERMINATE AND YOU WILL FORFEIT ANY UNUSED CREDITS AND LESSONS.
EVIDENTLY CAPITALS MAKE SOMETHING MORE LEGALLY BINDING.
Unknown2007-06-24 14:48:30
QUOTE(Phred @ Jun 24 2007, 12:39 PM) 420064
I didn't want to put that link on the page since I know Estarra likes privacy, but since you did, I don't think you read the descriptions carefully.
I don't see a separate one listed for Aetolia. (I'm not counting associates). If you look at that, Achaea has two producers, Lusternia two, and Aetolia and Imperian are sharing a single one.
My whole point being--going by that page, Achaea has 2 full-time producers and 3 associates, Lusternia has 2 full-time producers and one associate, and Imperian and Aeotila have 1 shared full-time producer and 1 AP each. So I would think Achaea is king, Lusternia is the crown princess, and Imperian and Aeotila are the Duke and Count, which might determine relative rank. So it was a logical hypothesis.
I don't see a separate one listed for Aetolia. (I'm not counting associates). If you look at that, Achaea has two producers, Lusternia two, and Aetolia and Imperian are sharing a single one.
My whole point being--going by that page, Achaea has 2 full-time producers and 3 associates, Lusternia has 2 full-time producers and one associate, and Imperian and Aeotila have 1 shared full-time producer and 1 AP each. So I would think Achaea is king, Lusternia is the crown princess, and Imperian and Aeotila are the Duke and Count, which might determine relative rank. So it was a logical hypothesis.
Hrm. Missed that bit. But I still have no idea why you think that would make them less important than Lusternia and Achaea.
Shamarah2007-06-24 15:12:30
QUOTE(Phred @ Jun 24 2007, 07:39 AM) 420064
I didn't want to put that link on the page since I know Estarra likes privacy, but since you did, I don't think you read the descriptions carefully.
I don't see a separate one listed for Aetolia. (I'm not counting associates). If you look at that, Achaea has two producers, Lusternia two, and Aetolia and Imperian are sharing a single one.
My whole point being--going by that page, Achaea has 2 full-time producers and 3 associates, Lusternia has 2 full-time producers and one associate, and Imperian and Aeotila have 1 shared full-time producer and 1 AP each. So I would think Achaea is king, Lusternia is the crown princess, and Imperian and Aeotila are the Duke and Count, which might determine relative rank. So it was a logical hypothesis.
I don't see a separate one listed for Aetolia. (I'm not counting associates). If you look at that, Achaea has two producers, Lusternia two, and Aetolia and Imperian are sharing a single one.
My whole point being--going by that page, Achaea has 2 full-time producers and 3 associates, Lusternia has 2 full-time producers and one associate, and Imperian and Aeotila have 1 shared full-time producer and 1 AP each. So I would think Achaea is king, Lusternia is the crown princess, and Imperian and Aeotila are the Duke and Count, which might determine relative rank. So it was a logical hypothesis.
Jeremy (Avaysu from Imperian) does Aetolia exclusively now, and Imperian has a new producer (Dranor).
Unknown2007-06-24 15:17:23
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Jun 24 2007, 11:12 AM) 420087
Jeremy (Avaysu from Imperian) does Aetolia exclusively now, and Imperian has a new producer (Dranor).
I love Imperian, but that's another reason it's in horrible shape right now in terms of active divine. I believe that Dranor might be the only programmer that they have working, and only a handful of other active gods.
Yrael2007-06-24 15:22:41
As long as Avasyu doesn't lose the transfixing arse, who cares?
Teehee. Transfix gluts.
Teehee. Transfix gluts.
Verithrax2007-06-24 15:24:21
Phred, I'm sorry to burst your little bubble of not knowing how corporations work... but if there actually is any difference in "rank" between Estarra and Avasyu, then Avasyu is more senior, as he is in charge of a larger section of business. But Matt has a history of looking at bottom lines and not at how big the population of a game is, so as long as we have plenty of credit whores - we'll be fine.
Verithrax2007-06-24 15:28:47
QUOTE(Okin @ Jun 24 2007, 09:49 AM) 420072
It seems to me that IRE is obligated to keep its games running as long as there's a single character with any unspent credits purchased through the website, and the company isn't bankrupt. They probably have the technical option of refunding EVERYONE, but that's obviously not going to happen.
EDIT:
From the Terms of Service:
It seems I was wrong. There you go.
SECOND EDIT:
Wow. The ToS just get meaner as you keep reading.
EVIDENTLY CAPITALS MAKE SOMETHING MORE LEGALLY BINDING.
EDIT:
From the Terms of Service:
It seems I was wrong. There you go.
SECOND EDIT:
Wow. The ToS just get meaner as you keep reading.
EVIDENTLY CAPITALS MAKE SOMETHING MORE LEGALLY BINDING.
Excuse me when I say, "Duuuuuurrrrr!" of course they have no legal obligation of continuing to provide th e services. Deep down they're a software company and therefore Pure Unadulterated Evil™.
Unknown2007-06-24 15:36:52
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But I still have no idea why you think that would make them less important than Lusternia and Achaea.
Well, if you have more people working on Lusternia and Achaea than Aetolia and Imperian, I think that sends a message. If you have more people devoted to one unit than another, that sort of sends a message that the ones with the most resources are the most favored, popular, or profitable. Granted, that could be a flawed hypothesis though...
The one thing I think makes Lusternia better than the others right now is that it's a strong campaign world with a strong history by a strong creator. The history of Lusternia is created by an "old school" gamer with a lot of talent. Sure, some dislike Estarra's "DM Style", but I find it suits my taste. Achaea seemed to grow willy-nilly without as much historical background, Aetolia started as Achaea down to the same cities with some sort of divergent past, and Imperian's the only other one I see with a strong background.
I tend to follow creators though, real people (creators) are important to me. That note about Imperian's designer leaving sort of disturbs me, it sort of means the creative spirit has left. Unless Imperian was "designed by committee", as some of the TSR campaign worlds were. I get nervous when creative forces change, especially since each creator usually has his or her own unique spirit.
If Estarra ever left, Tully and my alts would go bye-bye. (In other words, follow the creator to the next project). I'm sort of like that. Did that with Chris Claremont and the X-Men, did it with Gary Gygax and D&D/Greyhawk. Real people are important, the creative spirit is something important, not just the trademark or the creation.
Navaryn2007-06-24 16:59:15
Never got far enough in Aetolia and Imperian to comment on them.
I actually had a great time when I was playing Achaea. I really loved the whole atmosphere in Mhaldor and the Apostates. That douchebag Morimbuul always trying to stir up trouble (and sometimes, succeeding!). The Jaru war was probably my favorite event. We actually had to think of strategies instead of the usual gather-fighters-and-rush-at-the-enemy-lemming-style. Back then, their forums were actually fun to read and tamed. That said, I don't miss Achaea one bit. The rampant OOCness was unbearable. Sure, I know some cool people over there but the numbers of idiots is so much higher, it's appalling. Besides, Achaea is the only IRE MUD where they actually need 2 Assistant producers for ROLEPLAY to encourage it. That made me laugh.
I prefer Lusternia, although I haven't played for a while, because I find it easier to "get involved", the histories are amazing and I love how the whole warrior archetype is designed ( to Roark). Plus, Lusternia has Veonira .
I actually had a great time when I was playing Achaea. I really loved the whole atmosphere in Mhaldor and the Apostates. That douchebag Morimbuul always trying to stir up trouble (and sometimes, succeeding!). The Jaru war was probably my favorite event. We actually had to think of strategies instead of the usual gather-fighters-and-rush-at-the-enemy-lemming-style. Back then, their forums were actually fun to read and tamed. That said, I don't miss Achaea one bit. The rampant OOCness was unbearable. Sure, I know some cool people over there but the numbers of idiots is so much higher, it's appalling. Besides, Achaea is the only IRE MUD where they actually need 2 Assistant producers for ROLEPLAY to encourage it. That made me laugh.
I prefer Lusternia, although I haven't played for a while, because I find it easier to "get involved", the histories are amazing and I love how the whole warrior archetype is designed ( to Roark). Plus, Lusternia has Veonira .
Unknown2007-06-24 17:07:31
Ah, so Roark was the one responsible for creating warriors here as we know them?
to that man. He gets free gasoline for life. Forever.
to that man. He gets free gasoline for life. Forever.
Unknown2007-06-24 22:35:00
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Verithrax2007-06-24 22:59:24
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Unknown2007-06-24 23:17:01
QUOTE(daganev @ Jun 24 2007, 02:06 AM) 420038
No, sorry, that was just a tease.
You're evil....
Razenth2007-06-24 23:36:20
Can someone tell me what Imperian is about...?
EDIT: Do Aetolians get anything for reaching level 100?
EDIT: Do Aetolians get anything for reaching level 100?
Rika2007-06-24 23:54:36
Imperian is basically about Magick users vs Evil Magick users vs Totally Anti Magick users AFAIK
Shamarah2007-06-25 00:01:37
There is a city and a nature council that hate magick, a city and two nature councils that use "pure magick" and hate "demonic magick", and a city that uses "demonic magick". Commence endless PK. Also, putting a "k" on "magick" makes you original.