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Kharaen2007-07-19 20:38:28
QUOTE(Inox @ Jul 19 2007, 04:24 PM) 427047
What did you mean here then? The straps, or the soles?


All of the leather actually. I get more of an ephemeral vibe (for cool colours) over a neutral tone (grey). Maybe have the leather dyed a principle colour with splashes of other pastel colours. That's what I think of anyways when I see those bracelets and your shoes.
Inox2007-07-19 21:27:14
The soles of these unusual shoes are made of thickly padded purple leather, providing for comfort while still allowing for a wide range of movement. The vamps cover most of the wearer's heels then dip low, so that they cover just the toes. The soft blue silk of the surface of the shoes is covered in splashes of pastel green and purple, and has been pleated and gathered to form myriad folds. Tiny seed pearls and sapphire beads nestle between the layers of silk. Two blue leather straps cross over the top of the foot, helping to secure the shoe.


Changed the material back to silk, changed the colors, and broke up one sentence that became too long because of the color description.
Kharaen2007-07-19 22:30:03
Looks awesome. Sorry other people haven't been responding.
Inox2007-07-19 22:43:03
Thanks! And it's alright, not your fault.
Kharaen2007-07-24 01:38:20
Not enough people are using this thread >.> So, I'll make use of it again. 'Nother artisan design, first time designing a hammock:

a cobwebbed hammock entwined with roses

Commodities: rope 230 silk 50 silver 15 rose 5
Dropped: Silver webbing has been woven into this hammock, its entwined roses releasing an euphoric aroma.
Examined: Infinite strands of silken webbing have been spun together to create incredibly strong ropes for this luscious hammock. The cobwebbed ropes entwine together in intricate patterns reminiscent of a spider's web. Caught in the web are several buds from black and white roses, their petals just beginning to open and their scent releasing euphoric fragrance. The hammock's seat consists of a frayed sheet of silver silk, its bottom side embroidered with scenes of crawling spiders in black thread. The sheet has tiny holes lining the top and bottom edges, with brushed silver rings lining these holes. The webbing slips into the holes and tie themselves securely onto the rings.
Comments: Indoors, please.

Any thoughts, suggestions?
Kaalak2007-07-24 08:12:46
I'll give it a go.

So seeking inspiration for a new room in my manse.

Theme: A indoor dojo

Shafts of dappled sunlight fall upon the many white mats covering the floor, cushioning practice falls. The room is expansive and airy, constructed of lacquered evergreen timbers and dotted with small square windows, filling the space with a subtle pine scent, sharpening the senses. Pairs of weapons, newly oiled and gleaming in the light, lie crossed on each wall. An articulated practice dummy, a mass of carved wood and shiny iron gears, stands in a striking crouch in a corner of the room, anticipating the next opponent. The side of the room hosts a row of straw-filled scarecrows, clad in ominous heavy black armour. Scorch marks, and missing limbs, golden straw spilling out, testify to the sentinels' service. A taught white tightrope runs between two iron posts that rise several feet off the ground. In the front of the room lies a sparring area, on a raised rectangular arena. The surface is covered with inlayed squares of green-white jade, with sand sprinkled on the surface to hide the stains of defeat.


All comments welcome
Sarrasri2007-07-24 08:28:20
QUOTE(Kaalak @ Jul 24 2007, 01:12 AM) 428104
I'll give it a go.

So seeking inspiration for a new room in my manse.

Theme: A indoor dojo

Shafts of dappled sunlight fall upon the many white mats covering the floor, cushioning practice falls. The room is expansive and airy, constructed of lacquered evergreen timbers and dotted with small square windows, filling the space with a subtle pine scent, sharpening the senses. Pairs of weapons, newly oiled and gleaming in the light, lie crossed on each wall. An articulated practice dummy, a mass of carved wood and shiny iron gears, stands in a striking crouch in a corner of the room, anticipating the next opponent. The side of the room hosts a row of straw-filled scarecrows, clad in ominous heavy black armour. Scorch marks, and missing limbs, golden straw spilling out, testify to the sentinels' service. A taught white tightrope runs between two iron posts that rise several feet off the ground. In the front of the room lies a sparring area, on a raised rectangular arena. The surface is covered with inlayed squares of green-white jade, with sand sprinkled on the surface to hide the stains of defeat.
All comments welcome


Just something I noticed at passing glance since I'm sleepy and too lazy to read the rest, but "A indoor dojo" should be "An indoor dojo".
Druken2007-07-24 14:38:47
Neat designs!

Here are my notes about the dojo-

QUOTE
Shafts of dappled sunlight fall upon the many white mats covering the floor, (This comma doesn't help modify the meaning of the sentence) cushioning practice falls. (One or more of the following commas in this sentence shouldn't be here. I'd suggest modifying the sentence directly following "airy" to increase the flow of the sentence or the comma after "scent" for the same reason.) The room is expansive and airy, constructed of lacquered evergreen timbers and dotted with small square windows, filling the space with a subtle pine scent, sharpening the senses. Pairs of weapons, newly oiled and gleaming in the light, lie crossed on each wall. An articulated practice dummy, a mass of carved wood and shiny iron gears, stands in a striking crouch in a corner of the room, anticipating the next opponent. The side of the room hosts a row of straw-filled scarecrows, clad in ominous heavy black armour. Scorch marks, and missing limbs, golden straw spilling out, testify to the sentinels' service. A taught white tightrope runs between two iron posts that rise several feet off the ground. In the front of the room lies a sparring area, on a raised rectangular arena. The surface is covered with inlayed squares of green-white jade, with sand sprinkled on the surface to hide the stains of defeat.


I've noticed that you break sentences for additional descriptors often when you do not have to. "An articulated practice dummy, a mass of carved wood and shiny iron gears, stands..." could very well be, "An articulated practice dummy that consists of carved wood and shiny iron gears stands...." The sentence flows nicely into another description that way. Just a few offhand notes!
Druken2007-07-24 14:42:47
Another random note: about artisan wares-

Trademasters are locked into a number of commodities that each design type MUST contain. A bed design, for example, MUST have 300+ commodities listed in the design before the Charites will OK it. That alone will push the cost of constructing a bed way into the stratosphere.

I say this because Druken gets a lot of customers who're flummoxed by the incredible prices for their furniture. He's not intentionally stiffing you!
Hazar2007-07-24 16:28:10
QUOTE(Kharaen d @ Jul 23 2007, 08:38 PM) 428029
Not enough people are using this thread >.> So, I'll make use of it again. 'Nother artisan design, first time designing a hammock:

a cobwebbed hammock entwined with roses

Commodities: rope 230 silk 50 silver 15 rose 5
Dropped: Silver webbing has been woven into this hammock, its entwined roses releasing an euphoric aroma.
Examined: Infinite strands of silken webbing have been spun together to create incredibly strong ropes for this luscious hammock. The cobwebbed ropes entwine together in intricate patterns reminiscent of a spider's web. Caught in the web are several buds from black and white roses, their petals just beginning to open and their scent releasing euphoric fragrance. The hammock's seat consists of a frayed sheet of silver silk, its bottom side embroidered with scenes of crawling spiders in black thread. The sheet has tiny holes lining the top and bottom edges, with brushed silver rings lining these holes. The webbing slips into the holes and tie themselves securely onto the rings.
Comments: Indoors, please.

Any thoughts, suggestions?


Don't use the word infinite.

The bolded part is awkward.
Vix2007-07-24 21:12:16
An indoor dojo sounds a bit redundant as well. Maybe "Inside a dojo"?
Kharaen2007-07-25 16:40:49
Another piece for critiquing:

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a horrific tapestry of gore and debauchery
Dropped: Horrifying scenes of mass murder and sexual depravity ravage this tapestry.
Examined: This tapestry has been woven onto a black hemp mat with strands of black
and scarlet cloth. In the center of the tapestry, a group of various
males have been piked, the grisly black weapons thrusting through their
buttocks and exiting out through the victims' mouths. Their arms and
legs have been torn off and discarded on the ground below them, while
their throats have been slit ear-to-ear. Rough hempen ropes are all that
keep the mangled torsos from falling to the ground to join their limbs.
Feral wolves are tearing into the severed limbs, their black coats
flecked with sprays of crimson blood. Bodies have been piled in another
section, multiple incisions and lacerations slicing their flesh and
leaking organs from the newly-made orifices. Naked fiends lean over the
bodies with coy grins on their faces, their claws reaching wrist-deep in
the cadavers' slit bellies and curving horns boasting the victims'
testis. Another scene portrays a line of naked women hanging by their
wrists to the slanting ceiling of a burned-down abode, bone showing
through eviscerated flesh that seems to have been drained of all fluids.
Undead taurians, with flesh dripping off their bodies and gaping wounds
oozing blood, grasp the women from behind, thick arms clasping tightly
around the torsos and bestial heads thrown back in evident pleasure. Yet
another scene portrays corpses hanging by crude hooks in a cramped meat
locker, their torn bodies in various states of decay. An enormous and
sinister black silhouette standing in the corner of the room looms over
one of the cadavers, a giant cleaver in each meaty fist. The only
feature visible on his face is a maniacal grin full of pointed teeth.
Each of the gruesome scenes are surround by a hazy black mist, at once
separating and unifying them.


I'm thinking this should be fine as is, since I had someone else looking for it. But this is something I'll be advertising to Nilfelhemia followers, so need to make sure it's perfect.

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As for the dojo:

QUOTE
Theme: An indoor dojo (Comment before said this was redundant. I agree.)

Shafts of dappled sunlight fall upon the many white mats covering the floor, cushioning practice falls (The shafts of light are cushioning practice falls? For that matter, how will the reader know that's what the mats are for?). The room is expansive and airy, constructed with lacquered evergreen timbers, filling the space with a subtle pine scent and sharpening the senses. The timbers are dotted with small, square windows. (I just changed the sentence around so it wasn't a run on anymore. Separated the two thoughts.) Pairs of weapons, newly oiled and gleaming in the light, lie crossed on each wall. (Awkward...How about 'Crossed weapons, newly oiled and gleaming, have been mounted on each wall?) An articulated practice dummy, constructed from a mass of carved wood and shiny iron gears, stands in a striking crouch in a corner of the room, anticipating the next opponent. (The sentence feels a bit long, but you could get away with it.) The side of the room hosts a row of scarecrows, their straw-filled bodies clad in ominous, heavy, black armour. Scorch marks, missing limbs, and golden straw spilling out of the sentinels testifies their service. (Changed that around a little to be less awkward.) A taught, white tightrope runs between two iron posts. The posts rise several feet off the ground. In the front of the room lies a sparring area on a raised, rectangular arena. The surface is covered with inlaid squares of pale jade, with sand sprinkled on the surface to hide the stains of defeat.
Inox2007-07-25 21:11:10
QUOTE(Kharaen d @ Jul 23 2007, 06:38 PM) 428029
a cobwebbed hammock entwined with roses

Commodities: rope 230 silk 50 silver 15 rose 5
Dropped: Silver webbing has been woven into this hammock, its entwined roses releasing an euphoric aroma.
Examined: Infinite strands of silken webbing have been spun together to create incredibly strong ropes for this luscious hammock. The cobwebbed ropes entwine together in intricate patterns reminiscent of a spider's web. Caught in the web are several buds from black and white roses, their petals just beginning to open and their scent releasing euphoric fragrance. The hammock's seat consists of a frayed sheet of silver silk, its bottom side embroidered with scenes of crawling spiders in black thread. The sheet has tiny holes lining the top and bottom edges, with brushed silver rings lining these holes. The webbing slips into the holes and tie themselves securely onto the rings.
Comments: Indoors, please.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

As Hazar said, that last bit is a little awkward. Maybe something like:

Infinite strands of silken webbing have been spun together to create incredibly strong ropes for this luscious hammock. The cobwebbed ropes entwine together in intricate patterns reminiscent of a spider's web. Caught in the web are several buds from black and white roses, their petals just beginning to open and their scent releasing euphoric fragrance. The hammock's seat consists of a frayed sheet of silver silk, its bottom side embroidered with scenes of crawling spiders in black thread. The top and bottom edges of the sheet are punctured by tiny brushed silver (rings? Rivets? Not sure what you mean here. Do the rings lie flat on the surface of the sheet, or go through it like a hoop through an ear or something?), which hold the webbing securely

And I have an extremely low tolerance for gore, even in text, so I can't quite bring myself to read that tapestry desc too thoroughly. I'm sure it's lovely, however.
Unknown2007-07-25 21:15:46
I want that tapestry. It looks nice.
Reiha2007-07-26 19:46:32
I think the Dojo title was a theme more than the actual room name. :S Cause Dojo is kind of OOC.
Rattusk2007-08-17 22:34:24
So I submitted the following pattern.....


Item: Hat Type: Hats Org: Nightsoigne
Commodities: cloth 6 spectre 1
Layer: NORMAL Bodyparts: head
IMPORTANT: The main noun of this item MUST use this name: HAT
Appearance:
an unholy mitre hat of abyssal black
Dropped:
An abyssal black mitre hat lies here, fallen upon its side.
Examined:
As black as the stygian abyss, this unholy mitre rises majestically from
the wearers head, flaring out at the sides just before coming to a
wicked point at the apex. The effect is not unlike the unfurled hood of
a cobra, moments before striking. It is crafted from regally woven cloth
that has been stiffened like iron. The mitre has five identical sides,
symbolizing the occult relationship of the Demon Lords and Lady of Nil.
The dark fabric of the mitre descends to cover the neck and ears,
finishing in a sharp peak just above the eyes. This lends an imperious
cruelty to the wearers countenance. The unnatural cloth seems to drink
in the light, and it radiates an artic cold, chilling to the bone. On
the inside of the brim lies a mark, stitched in ghostly white thread, of
a rat’s skull.

And got the following rejection:

The following comments were made of the design:
I'm afraid your design is just way too magical. I understand that you attempt to
justify this by adding a spectre but this is not allowed. Please remove all
arctic colds and lightdrinking from the design.

So how do I make the part below convey the image that the hat is very very black.

The unnatural cloth seems to drink
in the light, and it radiates an artic cold, chilling to the bone.


Any other opinions welcome!
Rattusk2007-08-18 04:04:44
Woo. Amarysse fixed it. Thanks! freaked.gif
Kharaen2007-08-18 04:08:47
Amarysse is awesome when it comes to design help happy.gif
Amarysse2007-08-18 04:32:34
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Thank you! Most of the designs people bring to me are already very good, though. I'm still working on one for someone's pet, because I'm not familiar with the language used in some of the descriptions, but I'm always happy to help out.
Ymbryne2007-09-10 14:25:49
Hm... this is a pretty neat thread. Okay, I'm going to enlist some help here.

Ymbryne's been charged with designing masks for each God of the Divine Consulate of Celest, for a festival. To show what I mean, here is one I finished already, of Isune:

QUOTE
Commodities: opal 2 platinum 1 onyx 4 silk 10
Appearance:
a gleaming opal mask with feathery wings
Dropped:
A small mask with pale, feathery wings has been set aside here.
Examined:
This evocative mask ties together several symbols of the Goddess Isune.
Seated upon the brow of the wearer is an opal carving of a falcon's head
and tops of its wings, which stretch out to reach either end of the
wearer's brow. The wings themselves are wispy white feathers crafted of
silk threads, woven together in an artful way to allow two eyeholes to
appear in the midst of them for viewing. Above the opal falcon is a
lightweight, half-moon shaped plate of onyx, with tiny bits of platinum
embedded into it to mimic a starry night sky.

Now.. Isune was pretty easy, but I still have Terentia, Elostian, Ayridion, and Lyreth to take care of. As you can see, I relied pretty heavily on the 'official symbols' of Isune for Her mask, but I foresee problems if I try to do that with the other four.

Terentia - glowing white scales formed by two interlocking crisscrossing swords
Elostian - a glass seer's candle with a flame of mysterious, deep blue hue
Ayridion - a marble plinth wreathed in pristine white flames
Lyreth - a silvery wooden harp with strings of golden light

My experience with Lusternia is only very recent (transfer from Imperian, which was getting ultra stale), so my 'behind the scenes' knowledge of these four Gods is very nominal. Does anyone have any information to supplement/add to any of them? Even a more practical approach to the symbolism behind each God would be helpful. I honestly have no idea what I can do with the masks for Elostian and Ayridion, especially.

Any tips would be appreciated!