While I'm not going to comment on the electron microscope...

The roleplay for the aetherships is NOT that they are spaceships, but that they are living creatures which can travel through aetherspace. Now, individuals might have made them computerized or something, but the "canon" for them is "living being, the Algontherines." You take an algontherine egg and hatch it.

Which, as estarra has said on more occasions than I can remember, is the lusternian equivalent of today's scientific achievements.

Person1: It's a spaceship.

Person2: No, it's a living algeronthine being which is grown from an engineered egg.

Sooo, basically you just claimed that this 'magic' is in fact capable of feats of which today's genetic engineers can only dream. While we could argue this all evening (and to be honest, while I enjoy argument, that's taking it a bit far) it doesn't change that while lusternia's science is different, that doesn't mean we live in the Lusternian dark Ages.

Lusternia's society is scientifically comparable to our own. This is True. You can argue this all you like, but this is Estarra's statement. She created every little thing about this world, to an extend that drives the other gods to tears sometimes, continue as you see fit with this discussion, but changing the name of the object does not change the object's nature.

I think talking about, or researching DNA/genetics would be perfectly okay.

The Achaean history even mentions DNA as "spiral ribbons of future creation", and the world of Achaea is far less 'tech' than Lusternia. I think, with decent IG references, it would be fine.

Why would I argue it? I was pointing out that one of your examples was flawed, not stating that there were no other more appropriate examples. Scientifically, there's a pretty large difference between a living creature "designed" for a purpose, and a mechanical one. Our scientific technology tends towards mechanical. It seems like Lusternia's tends towards biological, which makes some sense-- but it IS a different technological pathway.

I reckon the genetics would be far more towards the Lamarkism kind of idea; Stresses of the environment cause 'factors' to develop, which under usual circumstances are passed on to the next generation which will be subtly changed by said factors.
The taint causes these factors to develop in far greater numbers and have an immediate effect, causing the rapid mutagenics one sees

not in the darkages but im still stabbing people with a sword? genetics don't exist but strong traits i can accept ie breed slave 1 with slave 2 to get strong op gladiator type b?

my view
edit also i believe the first known use of genetics was in slaves in babalyn or however its spelled.

Babylon.

And its a science geared towards total biological and physics aspects. There had been no chemical development etc, because with alchemy, which is magical, there isn't any need for chemistry. But Biology is needed, basically because it is so changable and useful, and physics, obviously since we've got planes etc. Physics is actually far more ingrained into it. Kethuru was osscilated into the astral realm, which is all physics related.

Just as an aside...

Use of a sword hardly qualifies as being in the "Dark Ages," as swords were still used on battlefields in the Western world until around the time of the Napoleonic Wars in the beginning of the 19th century.

It makes a good bit of sense - once you allow for all the extra magic and resilience and defenses a Lusternian has available, guns aren't very practical. A huge sword, when combined with weaponaura/omen or whatever, seems very practical.

well if we are so on the cutting edge of genetics i want my nuke. gimme a nuke

That's the Taint to you.

No chemistry, thus, no atomics. sorry mate, no nuke

Actually, when you compare the druid staff to a sword, it really doesn't make any sense.

Why use a sword, when I can do the same amount of damage, if not more, AND do it from a far distance?

though maybe you could argue for the broken bones bits.

'cos to use a druid's staff, or a mages (not sure if they have them) you have to be a mage, which takes alot of training and smarts

well if we have turret on an aethership, that can kill 100's of gorgogs in 1 hit whats stopping somone from just putting it on the city walls and killing all of celest instantly?

also. Worldburn was the realms vr of a nuke

probably because those cannons use aetherspacial physics, which are different from Planar physics. its like trying to fire a gun on the moon, where there's no oxygen

Does anyone else find arguments from Xion a little off? The Basin has no electron microscope. Magnagora's mechanical technology level just got upgraded to Victorian England. On the other hand, we have temporal distortion, near-perfect medicine, planar travel, and mind control. You can make the case all day that Lusternia's technology level is on par with ours, but it's evolved very differently. Lusternian research isn't analyze, dissect, and deconstruct--it's amalgamate, augment, channel, and enchant.

Armour prevents the use of elemental magic. If one city had a all elementalist army, and the other had elementalists in the back and armoured warriors at the front line, the ones with armour would win. Hence us having people with armour and weapons.



Magnagora has had interchangable parts, assembly lines and what looks to be a tank since the start of the game. We didn't have street lights built sooner because they would require we burn tons of expensive coal before. Now that we have figured out how to turn dross power into something burnable, they don't need coal and we built some.

well if taken from a realistic point of view 1 geomancer could completly tople the entire city of celest..

Lusternians are aware that geomancers can cuase earthquakes and build their buildings to not fall over during them.