Yes but Thoros has the Autobot Matrix of Leadership, you can't really mess with him. Seriously, heavy 80's hair metal will start playing and he'll get some sort of weird flame tattoos up and then you're just screwed.

Says the person who runs whenever I draw hexes and cauldron release.

just thought id give thorgal a mention..

Say what? I think I've only ever fought you that one day on Ethereal Serenwilde Sham, and I was stupid and walked into a choked room with hexes with you and a druid. Yes, you and the druid kicked my arse, but where does that remark come from?

I think alot of it comes from me being so hated. Like I still have this bad image of being a newbie slayer when I always go out of my way not to kill them. Ixion and others do so FAR more than I ever have and yet noone ever mentions it. I admited it before, I was a major griefer and did :censor: that was bad. I never denied that, but please stop with the newbie slaying bullsh*t.

@Acrune: I guess you are a newb then mate, considering I was chasing you down today and all you did was run.

I can think of two times off-hand - once when you tried to jump me on astral and cubixed as soon as I drew 6 hexes, and once I believe on earth.

And everyone mentions Ixion killing novices, not sure what you're talking about. He's more notorious for it than you are.

Hmm, after that time on Ethereal Seren, I learned to respect Choke and Hexen. I'm pretty sure that was someone else who went after you on Astral. I might of chased you on Earth, but I'm not afraid of any hexen, unless they have choke prepared.

Also expected to see Thoros named more, he is alot stronger than the majority of the fighters listed.

Also take on ridiculously overwhelming odds more than anyone else. If little ones fight me and defense then die, that's on them. I've never killed a Celestian who was a novice or unranked who did not attack me first. Thanks for your opinion.

right, it is not like you come raid celestia, then cubix go to water and kill the people hunting there even if they are novices and then when we come to water go back to Celestia, no sir never happened

Sure I've slain my share of young ones, who are city enemies though you should actually learn to read what I said. How often do I fight in demesne+ripple+5-10v1. Thought so.

oh and though i wont give a full top 20 i think i have to at least say geb is probably the best fighter lusternia has ever had in every class that he has been in..

you have killed novices not enemied to your city. I read what you said, but I can neither confirm nor deny things that happen when I am not around. Such odds never happened when I was around is all I can say to that.

-edit- actually I can say this, from what I have seen Thoros takes more odds then you, but once again I am not omnipotent

i've actually only known him as a PB tracker, what else was there?

Aquamancer, and briefly PB Sacraments-user.

hrm, clearly his next step is to become a serenguard.

Right....

Embrace the Taint, Geb, embrace the Taint!!

<-- The Taint, and Geb.

And how many people were with you?

This thread doesn't have to become like this- Ethelon- I blame you for saying some cocky that doesn't belong here. Lets stop trying to get attention and make people mention you. Thx, you don't get to call yourself top notch, only others can.

Let it roll on.

I personally will note... hmmm

Thoros- As naturally as seen he has a ton of experience and skill as a guardian. He made Astrology not laughed at
and that took some skill. He has pointed astrologies pros and cons, and knows his stuff.

Forren- Used to hurt like Nil, overly tanky bastard but good with his telepathy.

Geb- If not the best, one of them. Powerful curing with offensive skill, and one of the most fair people I know.

Narsrim- Works rather well in most classes that he can use powerful combinations. (Didnt see him as a Celestine
long), but he can use what he gets. Best as Aquamancer or Moondancer/

Neraka- Best Celestine there still is. Not a Celestine you laugh at, best candidate for champ they have.

Shamarah- Excellent combatant in most guilds he has used. Powerful skill and knows how to work the skills he has.
Bonus points for using manual and difficulty.

Sojiro- Skillful weapon use, venom use, and wound control. If your not on your toes you might lose them.

Daevos- Madly powerful fighter with amazing leadership power. Can single handedly move the masses to his goal.

Kaervas- Makes bards seem even more OP than they are (Admit it.. glamours makes them FAR more powerful).
Everyones favorite group slayer (when applicable).

Krellan- Solo and group fights alike, got to give him something for being a killer manual, even if he isnt huge on
groups. Stop the offense stop the pain!

I also forgot to mention the last of my top-10 list, (hence I only put 9, and meant to place him as 10th) Visaeris.
Pre-glamours, he was hot :censor:, and now with glamours, this guy is pretty crazy. Fighting alongside Visaeris has got to be some of the most amazing group fights. Him and I fight well and synergize perfectly together and can take out amazing numbers, despite the odds.