Below is a list of our auction artifacts. I've heard several times that some of these should be regular artifacts. Anyone have an opinions on which ones, if any, should be regular artifacts?

• a diamond chalice
• a golden monocle
• a bar of golden soap
• a Wand of Fire
• a silver shovel
• a Wand of Illusions
• a Wand of Ice
• an Amulet of Resurrection
• Boots of the Wanderer
• Spectacles of Clairvoyance
• a seeing stone
• a ring of aetheric power
• an iron goblet
• a ring of aetheric quickening
• a glowing bottle
• a thick ledger
• a ring of dominion
• a gilded mirror

The Chalices.

Key:
NO! == "No way in heck should this EVER be a normal artifact, nor should it ever come back again in any future auction."
No == Let these be auction-unique.
Uns == Unsure. See reasons for and against.
Ok == Don't really care. Not sure how much they'd really be worth, they seem more like niche artifacts, but some would probably like them.
Yes == These can be useful, and don't really see any reason not to allow them to be normal artifacts.

My top choices: The chalices and the rings of aetheric quickening and power.

Spectacles of clairvoyance, chalices, the rings and maybe the seeing stone. :S

The wands of fire/ice/illusions probably shouldn't be actual artifacts. Would be cool to have the others available to buy though. What does the monocle do again?

* a diamond chalice --------> Regular auction item or regular artifact.
* a golden monocle --------> Rare auctions.
* a bar of golden soap -------> Rare auctions.
* a Wand of Fire ------------->Either just sold at every auction or a regular artifact
* a silver shovel ------------->Sold at auctions is fine.
* a Wand of Illusions ---------> Should not be sold again.
* a Wand of Ice ---------------> Should only be sold in rare auctions.
* an Amulet of Resurrection -------> Should only be sold in rare auctions.
* Boots of the Wanderer --------->Rare auctions.
* Spectacles of Clairvoyance --------> Rare auctions or not sold at all.
* a seeing stone --------------->Regular artie.
* a ring of aetheric power ----->Regular auction item.
* an iron goblet ------------>Regular auction item or regular artifact.
* a ring of aetheric quickening ----------->Regular auction item.
* a glowing bottle -----------------> I'm not kissing that Igasho.
* a thick ledger --------------> Regular auction.
* a ring of dominion ------------->Regular artie.
* a gilded mirror ---------------->Regular-Rare auctions.

I forgot what most of them do. Could someone append a list of their functions to Estarra's list?

The monocle is SECRETS with 100% success rate. And free glance/observe?

Yes to most of those, especially the ledger. No to the ice wand. And don't the other IRE games already have illusions wands as normal artifacts? That'd be nice.

Perhaps a short artifact sale, 15% off or something, with the sale of new artifacts.

by free obs/glance for the monocle it also takes no balance/eq for it.

I don't know why everyone is saying no to the wand of Ice and yes to the wand of fire. I took the wand of fire, it kills toads on it's own, making it just as useful as the ice wand for wiccans. Unless icewalls are just better for other things too, i can't think of where they're that useful to make a difference. definately no on the wand of illusions? That's so much more potent then a wand of ice, Forren voted that way, but Xenthos was more against the wand of ice for some weird reason. I think they'd all be cool to have too, but I'll have to say no to the wanderer boots. it's just making one of the more rare abilities into an artifact. there's two few trackers anyways. The amulet is soul rezz once per day. i'd put a no to that too.

Thought the monocle was the thing Melanchthon won - free other-person-diagnose, or your own diagnose.

Just as a note, I plan to have the fire thing removed from killing toads when I have a chance on envoys, because it's rather silly to light a toad on fire when they can't douse it in any way.

No, no soap as regular artifact.

No, no wand of illusions.

I'd like the mirror to be a regular artifact.

I'd like the chalice to be a regular artifact.

I'd like the boots of the wanderer. I don't think anybody becomes a tracker or ecologist for that skill, it just not usefull enough with a low population.

Why no soap as a regular artifact? It's been changed so it's not immunity any more. Same restrictions as cleanse enchantment, just faster.

I think keeping sap stuck is hard enough as it is. >.<

what? That's like saying I'll envoy that toads not be able to be stomped anymore cause it's rather silly to stomp on a toad when they can't sip health.

i know

i still think it should be left though, there's still a ton of things like the paradox puzzle, spores, catacombs tarot, cubixes, prisms that people can all get.