Anyone know what the chances are of still having fun if you are a rogue ebonguard? Any particular city or communes that won't let you in besides glomdoring?

thanks

You can't really be a 'rogue' anything in this game, because most Power-using skills are tied to a certain nexus of power. Leaving that org means you're cut off, and your power is just plain, normal, and can't be used for your skills.

Well, you can still use it for warrior skills, but not for crow/night skills.

And you can't be an Ebonguard and be anywhere but Glomdoring. And I doubt anywhere but Glomdoring will let you in while you have crow/night skills.

So rogues are pretty much screwed?

Fun...

Lusternia is highly anti-rogue. Everything is designed around the cities and communes.

Rogues are typically outcasts who don't socialize well with others. Lusternia is a very social game, as are MUDs in general.

So where is a good spot to go city wise cause glomdoring is getting on my nerves big time and it's hard to have fun when you are part of a place where you would rather run around with fire and light the place up and watch it burn...

That depends on WHAT exactly annoys you in Glomdoring.

Also note that chances of getting into a city/commune which you're enemied to are rather slim. If you're enemied to any.

I'm tired of dealing with Shayle and her power hungry attitude. I'm tired of getting bullied around and treated like trash because some people are sleeping wtih hire ups. I want a place where the rules are followed by everyone regardless of how many people you are with or how high up you are.

Seren's had one person with another nations skills, an enchanter from mag during the celest/seren war. That didn't go over so well for the enchanter at the time though.

The only way to be half-way decent and be a rogue is to be high enough/strong enough to have access to alternative means of power (Astral linking, Powerplex jewel, friends with powerlink), and also to have a nice combination of skillsets so the loss of the nexus-specific power skills isn't that drastic. A strong tertiary skill might be the way to go, like Psionics or Glamour’s.

Picking something like Moondancer, and then losing use of almost your entire Moon specialization, for instance, would really suck. Since a lot of the skills are either Power ones, or Coven ones. You be left with Beam, Lash, Aura, Waxing(partial usage blocked), and Waning(partial usage blocked). 5 skills out of 17.

Warriors who go rogue lose a lot less of their skills, since athletics and the warrior weapon specs are shared by all the nations the power moves they contain aren't specific to a nexus. You'll still be losing skills from your org specific skillset though, for the Ebonguard it'd be Crow.

Crow would suffer similarly to Moon, in that some of your skills require a Nest, or Totem, or org specific power. You would keep Perch(improved clinging), Birdseye(Improved Scan/Scrying combo, also undetectable), Squall(improved gust), Spiderweb(passive entanglement curing/defense combo), Decoy(fleeing skill), Regurgitate(Healing, usage mostly blocked), Trickster(force feeding enemies), Scavenger(tracking/picking people into the air/dropping them), Bonenose(passive limb curing), and Deathmask (power gain on killing someone). You'd keep 10 skills out of 22.

Just a note: If you -aren't- yet Trans in Crow, don't expect anyone to teach you further after you've left them. Most guilds have a policy of not teaching guild specific skills to rogue members who keep their skillset, as you're viewed as a traitor.

If you think Glomdoring, of all places, is corrupt, then all I have to say to you is good luck finding another city/commune.

You acted like an idiot and got...toadcursed. Good luck elsewhere.

And, if one person (as was stressed) is the primary reason to leave the commune, good luck with other places. There will always be people you don't like. Leaving Glomdoring won't escape that fact.

I am not going to comment on Glomdoring, as I've yet to have an alt there (an irrational hatred towards making a Glomdorito character). But - did you have any non-Glomdoring characters recently? If no, how can you say if orgs are corrupted now or not?

I didn't hear anything bad about Celest for a longer while, and heard SOME stuff about ONE Magnagoran more than half a month ago. Serenwilde had its turmoils, but it seems that at the moment the "lay the smack down, hard" faction is on the top.

So, until proven wrong, I believe these communities CAN serve White Wolf better than Glomdoring, if he doesn't want to be in Glomdoring. Orgs change - for example, Celest had a Griefer Police, but it doesn't now.

As for skills, if you are an Ebonguard with Hunting, your integration to another warrior guild (skill-wise!) will be 100% seamless. You won't have to forget any skills. If you have totems, you'll have to forget their specialisation: Crow/Night, in case of joining Serenguard, or the specialisation AND the Totems skill if you're joining ur'Guard or Paladins.

EDIT: Argh, ninjas!
Anyway, since I apparently no longer play Lusternia, I can't say if white wolf acted like an idiot or not. However, there is a difference between being annoyed by one person in your org (whether you had the right to be annoyed or not), and being annoyed by one person who is also one of the highest leaders of the org.

Politics has always been my biggest bitch about Lusternia. You can't be apolitical. Lusternia has had rogues with big bank accounts and politics ened up biting them in the ass. It sucks I know but no matter what faction you play in you'll have to tread the water.



Glomdoring is exceptionally corrupt. Every org in Lusternia is. The game is just played differently from faction to faction.

Krin rouge of 60 years if you want to be a rouge warrior is the best way to go get tracking/whatever you need that astral power skill link skill and someway to get to astral. or the gem its really not that bad. if your a warrior altho you get jumped for the lamest things ever.
really warrior is the way to go if you want to be a rouge.

Meet me. I never had to deal with politics if I didn't want to, and I never got screwed over. You just need to lay low, and all is cool.

I got toadcursed for asking a simple question. You just didn't like how it was asked and if I was capable...I would have killed you in the blink of an eye. However, since this is not the place nor the time, either post something useful or go back to being a witch in Lusternia.

To everyone else,

Thank you all for the input. I greatly appreciate it.

I have to argue against part of that. For the most part, in the serenwilde at least, those people(with roguish tendencies) who wish to do/think there own thing can, it's when they take offense to the rest of the nation and try imposing their views, or judging others that the sparks start to fly. (Example: If you want to be a pro-Crow anti-Hart person in the Hartstone, you can, as long as you don’t actually express that view to anyone who’ll take offense to it, namely almost every single seren.)

You just have to ask yourself, if you want to be a rogue (or non-rogue), who avoids any and all possible confrontation (physical or ideological) with everyone else out there (including those people who are just itching to confront others) how much are you actually -playing- the game? You might as well just log into a chat service as you'd get around the same effect.

Edit:I'd lay off the personal attacks, no matter who did what to piss you off in-game. Doing that will get you smacked around pretty fast on these forums, and you'll only have yourself to blame afterward.

Politics are rather lame in this game. honestly, more people play to tick other people off then not really. i've really been trying to get some change to how thay oocly solve to an ic problem -edit- last sentence is about how they gimp rouges