heh, yeah but it's also the difference in lessons to get to that point. You also didn't mention that when practicing you actually increase your speed. So you can actually attack with it as fast as a mugwump moondancer can without being a mugwump. and if I'm totally wrong on this tell me so.

Minorsecond damage is probably influenced by lessons in music, so you'd need trans to get high damage.

Hrm I don't think this is true actually. One of our Cantors still does around the same damage as me, with equal intelligence and buffs, but I'm trans and they're at around gifted.

What has to be considered while nerfing my damage is that every 8 seconds or so, I need to make my target deaf again. Of course I shouldn't be one-hitting people like I do in my log, but its something to consider.

Bards are one-hitting machines.

I get taken out every time, when I have like 2k health. Or more.

Then again, Druid defense is crappy, but STILL.

i've also heard a lot of people not using earwort because the stun is worse than the effects half the time.

Their choice, I guess.

Word. I have a trigger to HEARTSTOP whenever "Alianna" appears on the screen.

Neat, I'll have to remember that in case I ever need to kill you via tells.

I knew that was coming.

I didn't want to disappoint.

Not much of a choice for monks.

No one tell Demetrios that Alianna isn't even a bard anymore.

Someone has to teach me the secret of this. Cudgel damage sucks, I hear, but my artifact-runed, full-maestro instrument, level 94 human evolved intelligence, trans Music and trans Dramatics, minor second does the same 1100 or so that Pentu's cudgel does to me. (And is much slower, can't be done from the next room, and can be blocked every third action or so by an herb.) Is there a "become Acrune" artifact rune I need to attach to myself?

(For that matter, how come in the time it takes me to recover equilibrium from a perfect fifth, my song ticks two effects I can't pick; and in that same time, Pentu can strip my protection, vine me, hit me with three runes, and hit me with seven demesne effects? And the passive attack was the one that steals her equilibrium, too! Okay, I know it was stupid to waste my single action on a perfect fifth, but really. That's four active attacks and eight passive ones in the same time I can get one active attack, one passive attack, and one passive heal; my minor second would have to do 3000 just to keep even at that rate.)

Huh?

Perfectfifth isn't a very long eq.

And the thing about bardic damage is that the damage depends largely on the target's resistance and such. I've seen mine (as Ciban) do like 2000 to Murphy but 600 to Creslin.

Yeah, I can damage kill knights like Ceren or Ixion, but I can't for the life of me kill Creslin who has a bit over 4000 health. The whole magic damage thing needs to be reconsidered. There are so many magic resistances that all magic attacks are going to be ridiculous against people who don't have a 60% resistance to magic, or completely worthless against people who do have good resistances.

I tend to run around with 17 int, war blessing, a champ arty, and 2 damage boosting songs. I've also been known to grab the occasional vendetta shrine power for important things like wildnodes.

If you've got most of that, maybe you're just testing on the wrong targets?

if I ever get back in the swing of things I run about 22 int, war blessing, 15% magic damage rune, 10% damage for wielding an athame, and vendetta whenever there's a nice fight going on. but now I just hover around 19 intelligence and no blessings or vendetta since i haven't been bashing at all.

If Pentu's cudgel is faster than your instrument, you suffer from a disease known as "tae'dae." As champion, my damage against robed targets with 19 int was in the 1000-1100 range, but that's with the champ cudgel and damage arti I have (which puts it squarely back at 750ish at 19 int without). I don't think she has a damage arti, but that might have changed. And, while I don't have numbers on perfectfifth's eq, it's certainly not 13 seconds.

wow serious? Druid cudgel definately isn't anywhere near that. Saran didn't have that much intelligence maybe 3 or 4 points less when tested cause he was a faeling. but he had the champ weapon. oh maybe I'll retract it might be near it. It was either 400 damage or 600 damage. or maybe 200 or 300.