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Furien2007-09-28 03:51:50
Duuuude.

Smoke some weed and mellow out. blackeye.gif
Tael2007-09-28 03:53:45
@Vathael: VULGARITY DOESN'T MAKE A GOOD POINT. BUT CAPS DO.

/sarcasm
Acrune2007-09-28 03:55:58
Dude, bard damage is totally minimal. Anyone who can't tank 1200-1800 a hit is a complete noob.

Teehee.
Forren2007-09-28 03:56:29
QUOTE(Acrune @ Sep 27 2007, 11:55 PM) 444889
Dude, bard damage is totally minimal. Anyone who can't tank 1200-1800 a hit is a complete noob.

Teehee.


I was taking 2.2k from Estwald earlier. It hurt.
Vathael2007-09-28 03:57:47
Hardly minimal? It's not like a bard can behead someone or instakill on half ego or mana. They have to have something going for them. As for stun and attacks while stunned, how about let's take races into consideration and on that note how little certain races are. I would imagine the speed makes up for the fact their CON is horrid.
Unknown2007-09-28 03:58:24
Bards need to lose the stun on blanknote.

Then they'll be fine.
Daereth2007-09-28 03:59:02
btw, stun is screwed up in that battle becuse the stun from my blanknote is like 1 second
Shiri2007-09-28 03:59:46
The stun from your blanknote is -not- like one second.
Forren2007-09-28 03:59:47
QUOTE(Daereth @ Sep 27 2007, 11:59 PM) 444894
btw, stun is screwed up in that battle becuse the stun from my blanknote is like 1 second


Stun is variable and dependent on size.

Stun right now is screwed up.

We're working on it.
Tael2007-09-28 03:59:52
QUOTE(Vathael @ Sep 27 2007, 11:57 PM) 444892
Hardly minimal? It's not like a bard can behead someone or instakill on half ego or mana. They have to have something going for them. As for stun and attacks while stunned, how about let's take races into consideration and on that note how little certain races are. I would imagine the speed makes up for the fact their CON is horrid.


Bard damage is pretty ridiculous in some aspects. I used to laugh at Harbingers. Now because of their double mana loss song combined with the mana/ego drain thing. It hurts. Big time. Con doesn't make a difference in some aspects because I think a few of the Music attacks are set amounts, at least I believe the ego/mana drain song is.
Unknown2007-09-28 04:00:29
I think Bard damage could be toned down. And it could be made to be based on charisma instead of intelligence.

Sidenote: Harbinger ally support songs are awesome! wub.gif whoever got them there.
Tael2007-09-28 04:01:42
QUOTE(Shiri @ Sep 27 2007, 11:59 PM) 444895
The stun from your blanknote is -not- like one second.


Agreed. It's definitely not one second. It's about 4-5 seconds, allowing you another hit in between. Due to the fact that if I eat earwort, this allows for repeated stun and afflicting. I concur with Thoros, just remove the stun from Blanknote. Bards will be fine.
Daereth2007-09-28 04:04:11
QUOTE(Tael Talnara @ Sep 27 2007, 10:59 PM) 444897
Bard damage is pretty ridiculous in some aspects. I used to laugh at Harbingers. Now because of their double mana loss song combined with the mana/ego drain thing. It hurts. Big time. Con doesn't make a difference in some aspects because I think a few of the Music attacks are set amounts, at least I believe the ego/mana drain song is.


Tip number 1: Don't walk into octave...

Tip number 2: Well, there really isn't a second tip becuse the first one basicly sums it up... my minorsecond is total :censor:.. so I don't know what other things you could be talking about other than getting horehound afflictions stacked
Tael2007-09-28 04:06:52
QUOTE(Daereth @ Sep 28 2007, 12:04 AM) 444900
Tip number 1: Don't walk into octave...

Tip number 2: Well, there really isn't a second tip becuse the first one basicly sums it up... my minorsecond is total censor.gif.. so I don't know what other things you could be talking about other than getting horehound afflictions stacked


Number 1: Nothing to do what we're talking about.

Number 2: Your minorsecond is not crap at all.
Forren2007-09-28 04:08:28
An average bard does more than my staff...
Daereth2007-09-28 04:09:34
QUOTE(Tael Talnara @ Sep 27 2007, 11:06 PM) 444903
Number 1: Nothing to do what we're talking about.

Number 2: Your minorsecond is not crap at all.


I haven't even hit you with my minorsecond since the dmp nerfed my damage.. what are you on about?
Vathael2007-09-28 04:14:26
My way of approaching things might not be the best way to do it, but then again. Here I am listening to people bitch about my fighting and Yrael talk down because he can't beat who was not long ago an IC novice. I don't mind discussing things, in fact I've given people my bard healing reflexes I've made to help them. It's the ones that are jackasses about it that irk me. My alt has never been rude to any one person or acted like they're something spectacular or snide.

EDIT: And I fought Acrune alone before when he was wtfpwning people on Earth. I tackled him out to solo him, not hard to tank, not hard to heal. Honestly, work on your healing before you whine.
Tael2007-09-28 04:15:49
QUOTE(Daereth @ Sep 28 2007, 12:09 AM) 444905
I haven't even hit you with my minorsecond since the dmp nerfed my damage.. what are you on about?


Yes, and the DMP nerfed my tankiness as well. Even before then, your Minorsecond was not crap. This is also taking into consideration AchromaticAura. I'd also like to note that your Minorsecond did damage to me before the DMP nerfs when I had Lv. 3 Magic Resist as Furrikin, Moondance Aura, Shine, Drawdown, and Maiden magic defense blessing active. Trust me, it was not crap.
Unknown2007-09-28 04:16:55
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To be more constructive, bard and monk damage is still a bit wacky, I agree on not needing the stun on blanknote now though.
Tael2007-09-28 04:19:13
QUOTE(Sojiro @ Sep 28 2007, 12:16 AM) 444911
censor.gif censor.gif censor.gif peaches censor.gif censor.gif trophy. censor.gif poodle censor.gif glass! censor.gif censor.gif friggle-fraggle!

To be more constructive, bard and monk damage is still a bit wacky, I agree on not needing the stun on blanknote now though.


Let's not forget Sojistun ™ and Sojirowned ™.