Bards

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Unknown2007-10-02 13:48:13
QUOTE(Malarious @ Oct 2 2007, 03:21 AM) 445952
Monks are INSANE bashers, with insane combat power... they aint in hell by any means.. they kick arse.

I now have someone who ADMITTEDLY went bard to get titan/demi and then plans to switch. LIKE I SAID WOULD HAPPEN!

Anyway... bard damage is already being looked at by your friendly neighborhood spid... erm... envoys.

Carry on


Insane bashers - yes.
Insane combat power - you apparently haven't fought many.

People don't seem to be looking very closely at this log. We can appreciate the strategy and glamours used in the log, it's all great. In reality, though, all the bard had to do was whore minorsecond. It easily outpaced Yrael's curing with no afflictions at all - there were a couple of times where one more minorsecond would have killed him, but they went for afflictions instead.

I would suggest a few things for bards:

1. Reduce minorsecond base damage, especially since basically everyone can get higher damage with song effects.
2. Remove stun from blanknote. It's always been too long and is not really needed.
3. Lower transfix writhe time. It's ridiculously long. I know several bards who use it as their main tactic - try to transfix/blanknote and time a followup transfix. If you are interrupted, run and repeat. If you are successful, throw out a couple of afflictions and whore minorsecond until they're dead.
Forren2007-10-02 20:00:54
QUOTE(mitbulls @ Oct 2 2007, 09:48 AM) 446003
1. Reduce minorsecond base damage, especially since basically everyone can get higher damage with song effects.
2. Remove stun from blanknote. It's always been too long and is not really needed.
3. Lower transfix writhe time. It's ridiculously long. I know several bards who use it as their main tactic - try to transfix/blanknote and time a followup transfix. If you are interrupted, run and repeat. If you are successful, throw out a couple of afflictions and whore minorsecond until they're dead.


Instead of the transfix change, I'd just argue that afterimage should be reduced even more than it currently is.
Rika2007-10-02 20:02:59
What is it now? A whole minute? More than enough time for the bard to stick a heap of glamours afflictions.
Shiri2007-10-03 00:45:20
Supposedly it was reduced to like 30 seconds, which is still a buttload of time.
Krellan2007-10-03 02:40:52
....I thought the original time was 20 seconds...I feel like a newb again sad.gif
Unknown2007-10-03 07:29:48
Daedalion managed to perma transfix/stun me. That was exciting.

And as for monks...their damage is fine. I don't have a problem handling it, honestly and i have just over 3k health. The speed can get ridiculous though.

Minorsecond wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so bloody fast and you weren't stunned from blanknote.
Arvont2007-10-03 11:42:49
QUOTE(Bianca @ Oct 3 2007, 03:29 PM) 446335
Daedalion managed to perma transfix/stun me. That was exciting.

And as for monks...their damage is fine. I don't have a problem handling it, honestly and i have just over 3k health. The speed can get ridiculous though.

Minorsecond wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so bloody fast and you weren't stunned from blanknote.


BlankNote stun is being removed. And imagine if you had a Faeling/Mugwump bard with greatrobes...
Malarious2007-10-03 13:17:57
QUOTE(mitbulls @ Oct 2 2007, 09:48 AM) 446003
Insane bashers - yes.
Insane combat power - you apparently haven't fought many.

People don't seem to be looking very closely at this log. We can appreciate the strategy and glamours used in the log, it's all great. In reality, though, all the bard had to do was whore minorsecond. It easily outpaced Yrael's curing with no afflictions at all - there were a couple of times where one more minorsecond would have killed him, but they went for afflictions instead.

I would suggest a few things for bards:

1. Reduce minorsecond base damage, especially since basically everyone can get higher damage with song effects.
2. Remove stun from blanknote. It's always been too long and is not really needed.
3. Lower transfix writhe time. It's ridiculously long. I know several bards who use it as their main tactic - try to transfix/blanknote and time a followup transfix. If you are interrupted, run and repeat. If you are successful, throw out a couple of afflictions and whore minorsecond until they're dead.


Sorry didnt know I would be taken at every word.. correction, when not hindered bards have insane combat power tongue.gif
Better?

1. Believe thats being worked on
2. Same as 1
3. Yeah the transfix is crazy it seems, takes awhile to do anything.. in a group you get transfixed and your kind of in trouble.