Gaetele2007-08-25 03:27:00
QUOTE(Hazar @ Aug 24 2007, 09:23 PM) 435954
A note.
Trueheal doesn't actually stop a sleep-saplock, as it doesn't cure tiredness. It means you need to keep them still and then stack up other afflictions again, but they'll still be falling asleep. Dreamweaving Blacktalon are potentially one of the most powerful classes in the game, alongside Dreamweaving Hartstone. Five deepsleeps cripple anyone, unavoidably. I won't go into any more detail, as there's plenty of druidic theory floating around the boards and I can regurgitate even more if for some reason you need the most modern bile.
Trueheal doesn't actually stop a sleep-saplock, as it doesn't cure tiredness. It means you need to keep them still and then stack up other afflictions again, but they'll still be falling asleep. Dreamweaving Blacktalon are potentially one of the most powerful classes in the game, alongside Dreamweaving Hartstone. Five deepsleeps cripple anyone, unavoidably. I won't go into any more detail, as there's plenty of druidic theory floating around the boards and I can regurgitate even more if for some reason you need the most modern bile.
Does deepsleep work on people above 80 since they don't need to sleep?
Diamondais2007-08-25 03:30:44
QUOTE(Gaetele @ Aug 24 2007, 11:27 PM) 435980
Does deepsleep work on people above 80 since they don't need to sleep?
Yes, level 80 only negates natural tiredness.
Shamarah2007-08-25 03:37:23
QUOTE(Hazar @ Aug 24 2007, 09:23 PM) 435954
A note.
Trueheal doesn't actually stop a sleep-saplock, as it doesn't cure tiredness. It means you need to keep them still and then stack up other afflictions again, but they'll still be falling asleep. Dreamweaving Blacktalon are potentially one of the most powerful classes in the game, alongside Dreamweaving Hartstone. Five deepsleeps cripple anyone, unavoidably. I won't go into any more detail, as there's plenty of druidic theory floating around the boards and I can regurgitate even more if for some reason you need the most modern bile.
Trueheal doesn't actually stop a sleep-saplock, as it doesn't cure tiredness. It means you need to keep them still and then stack up other afflictions again, but they'll still be falling asleep. Dreamweaving Blacktalon are potentially one of the most powerful classes in the game, alongside Dreamweaving Hartstone. Five deepsleeps cripple anyone, unavoidably. I won't go into any more detail, as there's plenty of druidic theory floating around the boards and I can regurgitate even more if for some reason you need the most modern bile.
It does cure tiredness, actually, which was the source of much of Shorlen's whining about it.
Hazar2007-08-25 04:11:27
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Xenthos2007-08-25 04:17:47
QUOTE(Gaetele @ Aug 24 2007, 11:27 PM) 435980
Does deepsleep work on people above 80 since they don't need to sleep?
Yes, but if they sleep for 10seconds, they stop falling asleep again.
Krellan2007-08-25 05:35:44
deepsleep killed Sojiro. Sojiro leaves, sleeps, hears something about being lazy over ct, goes back in and gets zerged.
Unknown2007-08-25 07:42:09
Clearly, Deepsleep is OP and needs nerfing.
Also Blacktalon.
Hell, just delete Veyda.
Possibly Glomdoring as well.
Also Blacktalon.
Hell, just delete Veyda.
Possibly Glomdoring as well.
Unknown2007-08-25 16:24:31
QUOTE
(As a side note, since no one answered your question about BTs and soap: artifact soap USED to be the Ultimate Artifact of Total Druid Immunity but now it runs on roughly the same restrictions as cleanse so it's basically just an unlimited cleanse enchant.)
Thanks for good news! Seems my info was a bit outdated :)QUOTE
bonecrushers are likely the best of the bunch <...> have two bodypart wounding instakills
Is it really possible to BurstOrgans anyone decent?QUOTE
pureblade is the other two-hander and i think THE attrition warfare warrior
That is it! Attrition warfare, how you call it, is what I'm looking for! How would you compare the combat potential and versatility of BC and PB?QUOTE
Or hold your breath and go to serenwilde
Take no offence, people of Moon and Stag, but I can't withstand this place. CT and GNT OFF helps a little, but that's just not enough.QUOTE
Five deepsleeps cripple anyone, unavoidably.
So, fighting a titan/demigod dreamweaver with RefreshPower you last exactly five equilibriums no matter what?Thank you, everyone! I'm currently swaying between a warrior and a Blacktalon druid, but now, when I'm loaded with useful information I'll be able to make a right decision :)
Hyrtakos2007-08-25 16:51:43
i personally died to burstorgans once, albeit i had never seen it before and didn't have it coded, i don't think it would be -impossible- to die to again with blackout and such. especially in groups
as a pureblader i can start out a fight hitting any body part and quite often do. generally i'll start out with a cleave to the chest going for a potential severedphrenic or either to the arms against a warrior or to the gut against other classes to start working towards ruptured gut. most everybody will always start out parrying their legs or head, so i'll only start on those with an assault if i'm sure they aren't shielded
from there it's all just about focusing on a key bodypart of your choosing and going after it and trying to disguise what you're trying to do so they don't realize it until it's too late. someone like krellan... i think i've probably chopped off every limb of his at one time or another and thrown every affliction his way
using krellan as an example for the comparison since i believe he's the one that mentioned to me the "don't parry anything but your head against a bonecrusher" strategy. heh. it's just too easy for them to go after it. being able to use maneuvers that stun and hit the head almost assuredly makes them very tough to stop even with your constant parry. i don't see any reason why they wouldn't just stay focused on the head
i would find a blademaster to have much more potential to get creative, if for no other reason than out of necessity. they've the two poisons chance per swing i mentioned, added onto the fact they have affliction that are cured by each method not just herbs and salves as you'll generally see. even if they aren't quite as powerful, it gives you more options in what you want to stack. i also think they're the only class that'll be able to stick and have using haemotox be worthwhile. i know i never would since it could be cured two different ways, but i'm very interested to see it put to practice
and deepsleep is the most powerful skill by far within the realms, it's just not overpowered because you can see it coming a mile away and if they're using it over and over again you can just leave and sleep
as a pureblader i can start out a fight hitting any body part and quite often do. generally i'll start out with a cleave to the chest going for a potential severedphrenic or either to the arms against a warrior or to the gut against other classes to start working towards ruptured gut. most everybody will always start out parrying their legs or head, so i'll only start on those with an assault if i'm sure they aren't shielded
from there it's all just about focusing on a key bodypart of your choosing and going after it and trying to disguise what you're trying to do so they don't realize it until it's too late. someone like krellan... i think i've probably chopped off every limb of his at one time or another and thrown every affliction his way
using krellan as an example for the comparison since i believe he's the one that mentioned to me the "don't parry anything but your head against a bonecrusher" strategy. heh. it's just too easy for them to go after it. being able to use maneuvers that stun and hit the head almost assuredly makes them very tough to stop even with your constant parry. i don't see any reason why they wouldn't just stay focused on the head
i would find a blademaster to have much more potential to get creative, if for no other reason than out of necessity. they've the two poisons chance per swing i mentioned, added onto the fact they have affliction that are cured by each method not just herbs and salves as you'll generally see. even if they aren't quite as powerful, it gives you more options in what you want to stack. i also think they're the only class that'll be able to stick and have using haemotox be worthwhile. i know i never would since it could be cured two different ways, but i'm very interested to see it put to practice
and deepsleep is the most powerful skill by far within the realms, it's just not overpowered because you can see it coming a mile away and if they're using it over and over again you can just leave and sleep
Unknown2007-08-25 17:55:56
QUOTE(Sojiro @ Aug 25 2007, 02:42 AM) 436033
Clearly, Deepsleep is OP and needs nerfing.
That's all I've got.
Krellan2007-08-25 23:59:44
QUOTE(hyrtakos @ Aug 25 2007, 11:51 AM) 436094
i personally died to burstorgans once, albeit i had never seen it before and didn't have it coded, i don't think it would be -impossible- to die to again with blackout and such. especially in groups
as a pureblader i can start out a fight hitting any body part and quite often do. generally i'll start out with a cleave to the chest going for a potential severedphrenic or either to the arms against a warrior or to the gut against other classes to start working towards ruptured gut. most everybody will always start out parrying their legs or head, so i'll only start on those with an assault if i'm sure they aren't shielded
from there it's all just about focusing on a key bodypart of your choosing and going after it and trying to disguise what you're trying to do so they don't realize it until it's too late. someone like krellan... i think i've probably chopped off every limb of his at one time or another and thrown every affliction his way
using krellan as an example for the comparison since i believe he's the one that mentioned to me the "don't parry anything but your head against a bonecrusher" strategy. heh. it's just too easy for them to go after it. being able to use maneuvers that stun and hit the head almost assuredly makes them very tough to stop even with your constant parry. i don't see any reason why they wouldn't just stay focused on the head
i would find a blademaster to have much more potential to get creative, if for no other reason than out of necessity. they've the two poisons chance per swing i mentioned, added onto the fact they have affliction that are cured by each method not just herbs and salves as you'll generally see. even if they aren't quite as powerful, it gives you more options in what you want to stack. i also think they're the only class that'll be able to stick and have using haemotox be worthwhile. i know i never would since it could be cured two different ways, but i'm very interested to see it put to practice
and deepsleep is the most powerful skill by far within the realms, it's just not overpowered because you can see it coming a mile away and if they're using it over and over again you can just leave and sleep
as a pureblader i can start out a fight hitting any body part and quite often do. generally i'll start out with a cleave to the chest going for a potential severedphrenic or either to the arms against a warrior or to the gut against other classes to start working towards ruptured gut. most everybody will always start out parrying their legs or head, so i'll only start on those with an assault if i'm sure they aren't shielded
from there it's all just about focusing on a key bodypart of your choosing and going after it and trying to disguise what you're trying to do so they don't realize it until it's too late. someone like krellan... i think i've probably chopped off every limb of his at one time or another and thrown every affliction his way
using krellan as an example for the comparison since i believe he's the one that mentioned to me the "don't parry anything but your head against a bonecrusher" strategy. heh. it's just too easy for them to go after it. being able to use maneuvers that stun and hit the head almost assuredly makes them very tough to stop even with your constant parry. i don't see any reason why they wouldn't just stay focused on the head
i would find a blademaster to have much more potential to get creative, if for no other reason than out of necessity. they've the two poisons chance per swing i mentioned, added onto the fact they have affliction that are cured by each method not just herbs and salves as you'll generally see. even if they aren't quite as powerful, it gives you more options in what you want to stack. i also think they're the only class that'll be able to stick and have using haemotox be worthwhile. i know i never would since it could be cured two different ways, but i'm very interested to see it put to practice
and deepsleep is the most powerful skill by far within the realms, it's just not overpowered because you can see it coming a mile away and if they're using it over and over again you can just leave and sleep
pfff your assaults are vicious I tell you. plus they bypass my parries and stances otherwise I totally would've shieldstunned in riposte. Sojiro got me with burst organs once too. first time I saw it, didn't even know it was an instant kill. but I'm not remotely decent when it comes to curing.
