It does less than my staff....

This is much more fair than eighteen seconds.

However, cubix is just as easy to escape with. It has the same restrictions as divine fire did.

I'm definitely going for demi now I know I won't have to put tonnes -more- work into maintaining it when I have it. I'm very glad about those changes, thank you!

so how far is the range on demigod zap?

cubix does not lead you to a peaced room however

If Morgfyre is right, it's "local area". But you can have an area as big as Serenwilde and Glomdoring.

I can see it now, Krellan chilling in a hammock, smoothing back his hair, hearing a guard declare an enemy has entered the forest, then Zap Zap Zap...poof.

Krellan is like the Lusternian version of Elvis.

While I'm not a demigod myself, I do believe the last slew of changes made seem unnecessary. Of the demigods that actively participate in combat, most still end up dying with some regularity even with the old haven ability. Being able to sometimes escape death where they otherwise would not have seemed like a reasonable perk for the amount of time a player had to put into obtaining demigod. In addition, with the lower essence loss upon death, we're back to where we started in terms of demigods escaping. They may possibly end up dying more, but each death is much less meaningful and thus really doesn't reflect the concept of demigod being a tenuous situation that a mortal would have to strive to continue working for to sustain. It makes it hard to understand why the change was a necessary one.

In addition, having manses that were docked on prime be able to access other planes by tesseracting may not fit the original design but it was a "feature" that everyone had access to and was even balancing against such tactics as limbo traps, as it was at least possible to sometimes manage to scry a potential group without blindly walking into it. The same is true about how tesseracting to other planes from a manse. It was never possible to tesseract back into a manse once one had left it, so this ended up being a good tactic to join up with a group if one was separated or returning to a fight if one was quick enough. This was a feature that added to the game instead of taking away from it and I'm rather sad that it's been seen as otherwise.

Though I understand that it is normally not policy to remove code tweaks, I hope these recent changes with demigods and aethermanses are rolled back. While they may seem like bugs compared to the original design, it was more serendipitous than anything else. Useful, utility-wise, and took away some of the tedium of moving around without being too much.

Demi's should be able to bash with zap for no essence cost.. >.>

With more personal abilities like the zap, I can see losing Demigod being more plausible. Can really fly through the essence

Krelvis?

Also, a demigod wouldn't have to bother with guards, they could just fly in over them

Only complaint about zap is it seems to be somewhat int based too. Not really fair to warriors/monks. Thunderclap had the same problem when it first came out.

I feel that the instant-havens removal was needed. It was just silly. That's not even the best part about Demigod anyways. The +3 stats more than make up for that. Other IRE games pay 2000-4000 credits per +3 stat arties, and Demigods here get it for free. Let's not forget about the level 3 health/mana/ego regen which us Demigods receive too, which are about another few thousand credits. Let's not get selfish now either, don't forget about shrink and expand, which is the best power we get overall due to tumbling.

Not sure if your trying to sound dumb on purpose or not but cubix restrictions are silly and any idiot can escape with a cubix while being ganked by a good-sized group....except for maybe if a blademaster is there. -mutter pinleg-

I thought that rather than "being dumb", he was saying cubix restrictions ought to be nerfed as well if it's enough of a problem for havens to get nerfed.

I was saying it's poor reasoning because an almost identical escape skill exists already.

If the peaced room was the concern, the location could have been moved to one of the non-peaced rooms in the Havens.

7031h, 3979m, 4085e, 10p exk-
Amavan arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Retsudo arrives following Kalas Alianna, the Green Queen.
Iasmos arrives following Kalas Alianna, the Green Queen.
Accalia arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
A wood nymph skips in from the southwest.
Iola arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Felix arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Cappen arrives following Kalas Alianna, the Green Queen.
Aesyra arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Dinoniel arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Ildis arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Hianastu arrives following Kalas Alianna, the Green Queen.
Vaera arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Rask arrives following Kalas Alianna, the Green Queen.
Alianna arrives following Heir of Ellindel, Laysus L'Eternae, Bearer of the Silver Chalice.
Laysus arrives from the southwest.
7031h, 3979m, 4085e, 10p exk-
A banshee stares at you, then suddenly emits a high-pitched screech at you. The soundwaves pierce into your
very being, weakening you in both body and mind.
6480h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exk-
Aesyra's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
With a slow, jerking dance, Aesyra points at you and lowers her arms, and you feel the world about you slow.
6480h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exk-You take a drink from a beryl vial.
6480h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exk-
Ildis's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
With a focused look, Ildis strikes at you with a platinum spiked morningstar. You are hit on the left thigh
for a minor bruise.
6114h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exk-sq sw

Aesyra takes a long drag off her pipe.
6114h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exk-
With a focused look, Ildis strikes at you with a platinum spiked morningstar. Your left leg is elegantly

KNOCKDOWN!!! PARRY LEGS!!!! PL!!! KNOCKDOWN!!! PARRY LEGS!!!

crushed and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
5742h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
With a focused look, Dinoniel strikes at you with a gold lupine waraxe. Dinoniel strikes your left leg,
mangling a major artery that explodes blood in all directions.
4868h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4868h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
Making a slashing motion towards you with his golden sickle, Rask curses you for your transgressions. Painful,
stigmatic wounds open up all over your body, dripping with blood.
4335h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
Ildis takes a long drag off her pipe.
4335h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
Iola's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Iola thrusts her palm towards you and a burst of silver light shoots from it and hits you, burning you
painfully.
3635h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-sw
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
3635h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
Laysus points an athame dagger at you and vines shoot forth, entangling you with a thorny embrace.
3635h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
3635h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
Vaera thrusts her palm towards you and a burst of silver light shoots from it and hits you, burning you
painfully.
2851h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
Amavan points the tip of his athame at your heart and makes a sudden stabbing motion. A glowing pentagram
shoots from the tip of the athame and slams into your chest, making you gasp and pain.
2429h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2429h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2429h, 3482m, 4085e, 10p exkp-
Your vision blurs, awash with crimson as the wrath of a war shrine of Lisaera engulfs you, ripping at your
unworthy form both physically and mentally.
A surge of rejuvenating energy floods your system, healing your wounds.
4620h, 3252m, 3870e, 10p exkp-
Iola takes a long drag off her pipe.
4620h, 3252m, 3870e, 10p exkp-
Making a slashing motion towards you with his golden sickle, Felix curses you for your transgressions.
Painful, stigmatic wounds open up all over your body, dripping with blood.
4186h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p exkp-
The mournful winter melodies send shivers down your spine.
A ditty runs through your head and you can't stop yourself from singing it.
You sing, "Weep, for you stand beneath the Gates of Judgement!"
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-outr chervil
eat chervil
clot
clot
clot
dd

Alianna plays the Argentine Lyre of Trialante and directs the exquisite notes towards you.
The lyrical sound invokes a strange longing for Alianna.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-

-Balances reset to 1.-
You are no longer stunned.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-dd
Tight bindings cling to you, making that impossible.
4002h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You take a drink from an emerald vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
5319h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You must regain equilibrium first.
5319h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p xkp-You begin to struggle free of your entanglement.
5319h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p kp-You are already concentrating on regaining equilibrium.
5319h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p kp-
Iasmos's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Iasmos whips a colossal punisher flail through the air in front of you, to no effect.
5319h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p kp-outr chervil
eat chervil
clot
clot
clot
dd
You remove 1 chervil, bringing the total in the Rift to 1105.
5319h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p kp-You eat a sprig of chervil.
Your bleeding slows as your blood clots.
5319h, 3137m, 3870e, 10p kp-dd
You exert superior mental control and your wounds clot before your eyes.
5319h, 3077m, 3870e, 10p kp-You do not bleed, my friend.
5319h, 3077m, 3870e, 10p kp-You do not bleed, my friend.
5319h, 3077m, 3870e, 10p kp-You must regain balance first.
5319h, 3077m, 3870e, 10p kp-
Iasmos takes a long drag off his pipe.
5319h, 3077m, 3870e, 10p kp-
Your vision blurs, awash with crimson as the wrath of a war shrine of Lisaera engulfs you, ripping at your
unworthy form both physically and mentally.
4430h, 2847m, 3655e, 10p kp-You must regain balance first.
4430h, 2847m, 3655e, 10p kp-dd

With a focused look, Iasmos strikes at you with a colossal punisher flail. Your right leg is smacked with a
force that goes to the bone.
3509h, 2847m, 3655e, 10p kp-You must regain balance first.
3509h, 2847m, 3655e, 10p kp-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p xkp-
You have recovered equilibrium.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p exkp-dd
You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p exkp-dd

Bael arrives following Kaervas d'Murani, the Fury of the Webs.
Okin arrives following Kaervas d'Murani, the Fury of the Webs.
Raoul arrives following Kaervas d'Murani, the Fury of the Webs.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p exkp-Tight bindings cling to you, making that impossible.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p exkp-
A brownie runs up and tickles your sides.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
You twist and turn as you attempt to escape from your entanglement.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-dd
You must regain balance first.
3894h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
With a focused look, Ildis strikes at you with a platinum spiked morningstar. Your left leg is smacked with a
force that goes to the bone.
3406h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
Tiny tremours spread through your body as the world seems to slow down.
3406h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-You must regain balance first.
3406h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
Laysus swings a silver mirror shield with all his might, smashing it into your head with a resounding ring.
3406h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
Amavan points the tip of his athame at your heart and makes a sudden stabbing motion. A glowing pentagram
shoots from the tip of the athame and slams into your chest, making you gasp and pain.
2984h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
You bleed 100 health.
2884h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
With a focused look, Iasmos strikes at you with a colossal punisher flail. Your left leg is smacked with a
force that goes to the bone.
Your deadly, poisonous blood splashes across Iasmos, who recoils as his skin hisses and melts.
The music here inspires you to greater heights.
Your deadly, poisonous blood splashes across Iasmos, who recoils as his skin hisses and melts.
The music here inspires you to greater heights.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
1905h, 2922m, 3655e, 10p ekp-
With a focused look, Ildis strikes at you with a platinum spiked morningstar. Your left thigh bone is crushed
and shatters under the force of the blow.
Your deadly, poisonous blood splashes across Ildis, who recoils as her skin hisses and melts.
The music here inspires you to greater heights.
2051h, 3305m, 4013e, 10p ekp-
Sweeping a gold lupine waraxe through the air overhead, Dinoniel sends it whooshing straight towards your left
leg. Your left kneecap is struck, slicing through the bone and causing the leg to collapse.
You stumble and lose your combat stance.
Your deadly, poisonous blood splashes across Dinoniel, who recoils as his skin hisses and melts.
The music here inspires you to greater heights.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
889h, 3305m, 4013e, 10p ekp-
Kaervas plays Kiakoda's Lament and directs the disharmonic notes towards Rask.
Blood trickles out of Rask's ears and from the corners of his eyes.
889h, 3305m, 4013e, 10p ekp-
Bael stumbles and grimaces, holding his head and his stomach as he suffers the wrath of a war shrine of
Lisaera.
889h, 3305m, 4013e, 10p ekp-
You have writhed free of your entanglement.
889h, 3305m, 4013e, 10p ekp-
Making a slashing motion towards you with his golden sickle, Rask curses you for your transgressions. Painful,
stigmatic wounds open up all over your body, dripping with blood.
Your deadly, poisonous blood splashes across Rask, who recoils as his skin hisses and melts.
The music here inspires you to greater heights.
356h, 3305m, 4013e, 10p ekp-dd

Alianna plays the Argentine Lyre of Trialante and directs the disharmonic notes towards you.
The reverberating sound echoes through your head, pounding you with excruciating pain.
As the sound builds up and explodes within your head, you die screaming in pain.

--- Healing System Engaged --

-Balances reset to 1.-

-- Healing System Disabled --
You have been slain by Alianna.



-- a bit of an old log, but demigods were still completely gankable *wink* being on the ground, being bound, and obviously being stunned can keep you there.

as far as thoros' comments, how many of those things you mention are demigod specific? it ends up being +1 stats whereas the titan gets the +2. i know of nobody that shrinks down below the sizes offered by titans. regenerations end up being used off prime for fighting at least 80% of the time more than prime i would say, usefully.

that being said, i was likely just being bitter that the skill gets nerfed that i find the most use for. you can just borrow a cubix when you need one. i can think of two people in glom with one and they're both druids, which must mean around all the time right? krellan and forren, the biggest demi griefers (), still get to continue their griefing ways! --and this useful skill for me is replaced by one that while i love the rp and customization of it... i do effectively half the damage of everybody else with it. 800 damage on kaervas with his nice level three electric penalty

and with all -that- being said now, with the unnecessary changes on phoenix... demi is certainly worthwhile for me or anybody else again so i have no reason to complain!

Alianna plays the Argentine Lyre of Trialante and directs the disharmonic notes towards you.
The reverberating sound echoes through your head, pounding you with excruciating pain.
As the sound builds up and explodes within your head, you die screaming in pain.

Man...

I miss that thing.

Well hopefully those silly amulet things that the winners of those contests from January arent permanent, so now Forren can actually be killed, before is was havens away anytime he thought he was in trouble.

As far as the cubix goes, well it costs 2000 credits so it doesnt need a nerf, when people acutally pay for them (not including the ones won for free in some contests) they deserve what they pay for I think.

i think maybe a demi attack based on str, and a demi attack based on int would be nice? -watches forren scream- "vigorus left bullet punch!!!" (reference from some old anime along time ago) that would cure the problem though

couldn't we just nerf Forren?