Which part is the bug that you are fixing? Resilience/Magic being weighted by DMP? Or the whole all you need is high con to be great now thing?

ANNOUNCE NEWS #910
Date: 9/12/2007 at 18:36
From: Estarra, the Eternal
To : Everyone
Subj: Damage Updates

We have tweaked damage again. You should notice that wounding isn't so
out of whack. Also, magic and resilience skills have been moved outside
of the damage modifier routines to stand alone so they should be more
effective. We will continue to be monitoring this and tweaking as
necessary, so don't jump to conclusions and start rushing to reincarnate
before the dust has settled!

Penned by My hand on the 17th of Estar, in the year 186 CE.


Yay

woot thanks!!!

As an elfen with drawdown, shine at first quarter, war blessing and sceptre of esoteric, my moonburst did just 800 to Accalia.

It takes 10 hits to kill a fisher in UV and I can no longer sip-and-kill without running (tho I should manage with sparkleberry).

Just letting you know. If this is how it is supposed to be, I'll find a nice corner to cry in...

shine barely helps at all in the best phases. I put up shane during the heavily decreases damage against you phase, which was waning gibbous. and it decreased a moonburst done to me by 14 damage. Of course this was done after the first initial DR change and since the latest damage changes, I've yet to thoroughly test it.

These changes have been pretty horrible for me. Faeling. My attack is based off intelligence. It takes me 8 hits to kill a kephera worker, and that's with the damage song going on :/ I take a lot more damage now thanks to the damage changes. So basically, I'm a lot easier to kill and it takes me forever to kill anything. This is just plain frustrating.

Well, it's official. The bashing awesomeness was a bug.

My Staff now seems underpowered, as it should. Killing grubs in 4 points.

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*breakdown* OH GODS!

EDIT: And grubs seem to be causing weird amounts of bleeding... Before, it was one hit - <10 bleeding, now it's 20+.

From what I can see, after the fix, I'm doing the same mob damage that I was before these changes despite having less than 14 strength (13).

Is this change supposed to be just for PvP, or a slight touch on PvE as well? Before, it seemed like it was supposed to be both, but the second was a bit wacky. Now it seems to just be PvP.

The damage songs might be bugged. I was doing an extra 9 damage with Celebrate earlier.

Does anyone know how Dodge fits into this now?

4 fricken Staff points to kill a grub... This weakness is just not natural... I know I'll get used to it and all, but this kind of weakness is a serious discouragement. I don't think I'll be bashing for 77 anytime soon...

Can we hold a large sacrificial ceremony or something? Like, sacrifice a hundred people, hoping that the gods will make their beloved creations normal again?

Hm, I think maybe racials should also be taken out of DMPs, seeing as most people have no way to change them now.

Really. That would be a nice and quick way to normalise everything again. Making Strength and Int completely redundant is not good, both RP-wise and player-happiness-wise.

This is starting to become one of those useless threads that the divine won't actually read. Please save it for useful suggestions (like Ashteru's) instead of complaining! Save us all the extra headaches!

I could see both sides of the resistance things - on one hand, we don't have a way to change races right now. On the other hand, kephera resistances are too much and needed to be nerfed; this takes care of that. Estarra has said they might consider an all-out racial re-balancing sometime in the near future (after monks are finished). I would be onboard with taking racial resistances out of this formula as well, and then addressing those resistance problems as part of the re-balancing (which is needed now anyway).

What ever was going on it made bashing as a druid not suck. Please keep it that way.

It made everyone's bashing godly. There are already too many demigods, the last thing we need is to make it a lot easier.

Says you. I could plow through Gorgogs at lv. 60-65 as a Moondancer. As a lv. 80+ Blacktalon I have to shield and run from them. What ever it was it was great and I want more of it.

It's that way no more, if you didn't notice... Go, try bashing now.

Druid cudgels need to be buffed some. MDs are VERY nice for bashing, though, I plowed through a lot of things as an MD too. Druids have to be balanced somewhat since their demesnes are insanely powerful. I think cudgel needs to be buffed a little and mage staves should be nerfed a little, but druid hunting will never bee the same as MD hunting. That doesn't mean much, though - if I remember right, Ialie hunted all the way to titan as a druid, so it can be done regardless.

Of course it can be done. If I hadn't taken over a year off I'd probably be there already. All I'm saying is that for the first time bashing was fun.