So my options are....demon shackles and whore hangedman until the monk just gives up....or trans combat and hope...or go aslaran for the extra 3 con and 3 levels of sip difference.

I'm still stuck.

It's more like expert combat. Or maybe gifted.

I can't be the only person who disagrees with this...

As a warrior, not another class designed to kill without power...

Yes, I know. To me, power is useful to get a good (and possibly overwhelming) first couple rounds, but not entirely necessary. Might just be me, though.

I'll go ahead and say I could just turn curing on and let you flail away on me without ever using power as a warrior and you'll never kill me. Maybe someone like a demigod shadowlord faeling, but anything else? Yeah right.

I’m not going to jump all into this quagmire of a discussion, but I will make a statement to the original poster. What I have noticed is that you seem to complain about a lot of classes you have fought against. Each time you are complaining about how you are incapable of dealing with what each class is able to do to you. I would suggest to you that the problem is you, your healing methods, your skill levels, and your tactics.

Stop dissing people who can't trans everything.

It is pretty good, not my fault you helped design it and are jealous of tahtetso. Should have worked harder designing Shofangi huh there Mister Man

We had no idea how monks worked, give us a break (plus we didn't really design it, just threw in ideas)

Thats why I put a nyah nyah I am teasing you, just like I always do !!

If said warrior can cure as well as you can, they can probably beat you without power.

I said even if I wasn't attacking. I know for a fact a warrior isn't killing me without power if I'm actually attacking back.

Heh, okay, whatever you say. :P

Hey, if you want to test it, I'm all for it.

May we know the name of your character and a partial list of the fighters you have defeated solo without using any power attacks?

he's right, with a good parry system and stancning, you will be unable to kill him unless you have a lot of str, arties and you have enough experience to know how to play it.

Power moves for a warrior are important.

Also i agree with what geb said before.

Murphy and Geb in agreement?

Do I sense a budding friendship?

I've found I only use power for Bullrage (10p), and even without that I can usually manage to hinder people fairly well. Without grapples.

The way I see it, the Shofangi focus on keeping people prone. Tahtetso has the benefit of a more focused skillset, since Shofangi had came first and was really just a mesh of various ideas of the monk forum. Does it lack any serious afflicting power? In, well, hard afflictions, yeah. (things that're deadly- windpipe, pinleg, etc.) The only real 'hard' affliction it has is Crunch, which even then I prefer to not use because it can't be cured, so to speak.

Just use things to keep them down. Have a hook combo around the 4th slot of your kata for something like..shofa lleg left/right with dendroxin, then stomp that same leg. Wham. 3 broken limbs and prone. 2 seconds later, follow up with an unstancing combo to stack the salves, and use the stomp in that combo to smash the other leg. 2 seconds later, kumaki/pinchnerve for the sake of hindering them with poisons of your choice.

When you've got them sufficiently on the ground for an opening, just..go whore concussion and head affs and try to overload them with stun/paralysis/concussion. Or, use crunch. As long as you've got versatile forms (I don't use macros, personally, I type out every kata I perform) it's quite possible to do well as a Shofangi.

Geb and I are great mates, isn't that right geb?