Making Raiding Impossible

by Furien

Back to Common Grounds.

Arel2007-11-06 04:21:58
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Nov 5 2007, 10:40 PM) 456313
Elostian shrine things + Terentian griefage


I miss out on all the interesting conflict sad.gif
Acrune2007-11-06 04:26:04
Narsrim isn't Terentian. So a group of Celestians, some of whom happened to be Terentian came to take the fight to Magnagora. They attack a Magnagoran shrine in retaliation for an attack on a Celestian shrine, which, in all likelihood, came from some Magnagoran or another.

I'm confused as to what you find so outrageous about the events. You seem to be completely thrown by the idea that a lot of Celest's fighters are in Terentia's order.
Unknown2007-11-06 04:27:55
A little late, but...

I have no idea what the people talking about 'teaching combat' are talking about. You cannot teach someone fighting unless you spend large amounts of time with them in an OOC manner. And, even then, the person learning will be mediocre at best. Unless you're talking about group-strategies, combat in Lusternia (or any IRE game, really) can only be learnt if you actually have an interest in learning, and enough time free to devote to learning. Seriously, just try teaching people 1v1 PvP, it's ridiculously difficult.
Acrune2007-11-06 04:30:00
QUOTE(Salvation @ Nov 5 2007, 11:27 PM) 456329
A little late, but...

I have no idea what the people talking about 'teaching combat' are talking about. You cannot teach someone fighting unless you spend large amounts of time with them in an OOC manner. And, even then, the person learning will be mediocre at best. Unless you're talking about group-strategies, combat in Lusternia (or any IRE game, really) can only be learnt if you actually have an interest in learning, and enough time free to devote to learning. Seriously, just try teaching people 1v1 PvP, it's ridiculously difficult.


Teaching combat is pretty much "Here, have my system". Not sure how else to teach, beyond basic strategies.
Xavius2007-11-06 04:47:59
Teaching combat is very possible and a lot of fun, even without touching the other person's system. wtf.gif
Arel2007-11-06 04:49:13
QUOTE(Xavius @ Nov 5 2007, 11:47 PM) 456334
Teaching combat is very possible and a lot of fun, even without touching the other person's system. wtf.gif


Actually play, and then you can teach me combat.
Xavius2007-11-06 04:50:09
QUOTE(Arel @ Nov 5 2007, 10:49 PM) 456336
Actually play, and then you can teach me combat.

You're a bard. Your archetype has been overhauled so many times since I played one that I can't help you.
Krellan2007-11-06 05:08:38
QUOTE(Malicia @ Nov 5 2007, 09:11 PM) 456306
You really shouldn't generalize, Krellan. I've heard of players being enemied for the silliest reasons, by all orgs. And each org is free to enemy at their discretion. I know that Terentia's order enemies anyone who raids Celest or attacks an order-member without provocation. Krellan is the only Seren defender-thingie that's enemied to her order. So no, they're not enemying people just for wildnodes. You also have no idea who actually started using shrines to defend spheres and flooding them with mobs, but I won't name names. Doesn't really matter. It just happens.

Edit: And SW had a Charune shrine on Taurus as well, to defend nodes. It got defiled a few times by the Gloomies.


Yeah I don't mean too. Writing has never been my strong point. The Nil enemying was pretty specifics and the shrine ones I meant to associate more with Mag since I think of them as a city that will use anything to achieve their means. Which is a cool concept in and of itself. And the SW shrine was a shield shrine that wasn't used. I used it for bashing personally. Celerity makes me scary. Hm though now that I think back, Mag might have used theirs when they had it. It's more likely than not anyways, but still they can't put their shrine up anymore and so now down with Terentia!
Arel2007-11-06 05:10:59
QUOTE(Xavius @ Nov 5 2007, 11:50 PM) 456337
You're a bard. Your archetype has been overhauled so many times since I played one that I can't help you.


Alas, there is no hope for me.
Xavius2007-11-06 05:20:13
Don't worry. Bards have a proud tradition of not knowing how to fight but melting faces anyways.
Arel2007-11-06 05:39:54
QUOTE(Xavius @ Nov 6 2007, 12:20 AM) 456344
Don't worry. Bards have a proud tradition of not knowing how to fight but melting faces anyways.


I know, I just killed two people in an FFA. I feel so self-actualized.
Ildaudid2007-11-06 06:22:58
QUOTE(Malicia @ Nov 5 2007, 11:21 PM) 456323
Ugh. I hate your posting style. You're just rambling and about nothing important. Stick to the topic. I don't really care how you or your character feels about Terentia. It's pretty obvious you have separation issues. It's a game, try to have fun. Terentia isn't out to ruin your life. And if you don't want to find out IC, then tough. I think it's perfectly justifiable for anyone to defend shrines of a God that they're not necessarily a follower of.

You're kidding right? I ask a question, a simple question, and once again you get all defensive about it, resort to making it a "seperation" issue, and then claim that if I ask IC, that a person involved with an order that has me enemied ICly would be overjoyed to answer my question there and not just shrug it off? Please stop always trying to defend things that don't always need to be defended. Just because a ? mark is placed at the end of a statement, does not mean it is an attack and must be defended. You need to stop using your signature as your personal mantra, and maybe it is you who should learn a little about seperation. I am sorry that I asked you a question, I didn't figure you could somehow spin this into some form of defensable issue. Yes I said something about Terentia, which is an actual fact. Yes I said that is why my character truly has a dispassionate feeling for her, did I say I want to stab her player in the face with a fork? No? But you, take this so passionately and defensively that you want to defend anything she as a divine has ever done. Yet you call me the one who cannot seperate things? Please, please, please get a grip on yourself. And I will try not to ask any questions in a thread you may happen upon, in case your irrational defensive nature rears its ugly head once again to attack me for asking a simple question. Anyways, I am washing my hands of this, since there is no way if you respond it that it will be with an actual answer to my original question, but more than likely some form of fanatical rampage of words.

QUOTE(Acrune @ Nov 5 2007, 11:26 PM) 456327
Narsrim isn't Terentian. So a group of Celestians, some of whom happened to be Terentian came to take the fight to Magnagora. They attack a Magnagoran shrine in retaliation for an attack on a Celestian shrine, which, in all likelihood, came from some Magnagoran or another.

I'm confused as to what you find so outrageous about the events. You seem to be completely thrown by the idea that a lot of Celest's fighters are in Terentia's order.

That wasn't what I was saying at all, I was simply asking her why a group of Terentia fighters, came "looking for me", none of the party was an Elostian follower, so that would mean that they would have to have been asked or told by someone that this defiling was going on to begin with, and then when they were told it was not me, why did they continue to take the attack to Magnagoran shrines, and then state later in forums that they were doing these things in retribution to their shrines being defiled? I was asking a simple question, which Malicia felt obliged to put on her CFDS hat, load her lil six shooter and come in guns a blazin, instead of answering a question...... anyways.... you weren't there, so asking you the question would be kinda silly smile.gif
Acrune2007-11-06 06:42:43
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Nov 6 2007, 01:22 AM) 456349
That wasn't what I was saying at all, I was simply asking her why a group of Terentia fighters, came "looking for me", none of the party was an Elostian follower, so that would mean that they would have to have been asked or told by someone that this defiling was going on to begin with, and then when they were told it was not me, why did they continue to take the attack to Magnagoran shrines, and then state later in forums that they were doing these things in retribution to their shrines being defiled? I was asking a simple question, which Malicia felt obliged to put on her CFDS hat, load her lil six shooter and come in guns a blazin, instead of answering a question...... anyways.... you weren't there, so asking you the question would be kinda silly smile.gif


You can ask me if you want. All the evidence seems to point to what I said before. Someone defiled. That someone was probably Magnagoran. Celestian fighters responded, and some of them happened to be Terentian. Elostian didn't necessarily have many fighters about.
Arel2007-11-06 06:46:26
QUOTE(Acrune @ Nov 6 2007, 01:42 AM) 456353
Elostian didn't necessarily have many fighters period.


There, I fixed that up for you.

Now recruiting fighters.
Acrune2007-11-06 06:48:56
QUOTE(Arel @ Nov 6 2007, 01:46 AM) 456354
There, I fixed that up for you.

Now recruiting fighters.


laugh.gif

Thats what I thought, but I wasn't sure and I didn't want to offend.
Nezha2007-11-06 07:07:59
I dunno where i should put this comment but since this topic is about fighthing perhaps i can put it here

-- reading all this stuff about combat and how its been nerfed has.. nerfed my will actually somewhat..
well, whats the use of going to titan, demi-god or whatever and no people to fight.. and also, not to brag but i can buy credtis anytime i want.. and buy me those artifacts.. but again.. whats the point of it all.. youll be like, all artifact'ed to your neck but with none to to fight with..

maybe ill just go chat all the time... but ack..

somehow reading this stuff is causing me to not bother.. oh, perhaps i should not let it get to me so.. except that what if its true.. and what if all that im doing is worthless in the long run.. *"#$#$ man, im three months into writing my own system.. someone tell me its not pointless..

Ashteru2007-11-06 07:14:29
Dude, Ild...you sorta told Ash that you were defiling. wtf.gif
Ildaudid2007-11-06 07:24:08
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Nov 6 2007, 02:14 AM) 456359
Dude, Ild...you sorta told Ash that you were defiling. wtf.gif

No I asked if you defiled a shrine up there, you said you didn't and I said, I should defile your shrine(if you really did), and you said "BRING IT!!" and then I just never did, instead I just said screw it and donated instead. So, me telling you that if you defiled the mag shrine we had there, I would do it, was just me talking. You said you didn't, and I believed you, so I never did defile it.

edit- and remember that was a few weeks ago, plus I <3 the ashman, and his word is good nuff for me
Unknown2007-11-06 07:34:19
I'm confused, why does any Celestian much less Terentian need added justification to attack you Ildaudid, or Morg's shrines, or Magnagora in general for that matter. Our RPs don't exactly mesh as you well know. With all the complaining about so little conflict I would have guessed everyone would be delighted about a fight over shrines, if it was a missunderstanding or not.

Necessary justifications for attacking eachother, what the hell is going on in Celest and Magnagora? We don't need additional justifications to attack anything of the otherside! Our justification is embeded in Lusternia itself, if we want to add RP justification then thats all well and good, but they are not necessary. There is more than enough RP precedence to attack eachother forever, anything else is just gravy. icecream.gif However there is no justification for griefing and if you feel thats whats happening, issue it.

If you didn't attack the shrine then thats fine Ild, I would have still supported killin' your ass. I hope you would do the same for me.
Jack2007-11-06 08:58:44
QUOTE(Arel @ Nov 6 2007, 05:39 AM) 456346
I know, I just killed two people in an FFA. I feel so self-actualized.

All burning your lute, symbol of your oppression, and maelstrom'ing the competent fighters into oblivion.