That's what was my idea wayyy back too.

I am sorry your griefing failed?

If someone made their career on the backs of hunting newb bashers (Ixion) or by killing 50+ guards a night (Thoros) shouldn't we be able to try to limit their power?

So instead of preventing them in the first place you now spend your time hunting them?

Wha?

Shwa?

At this point it is an argument between what makes "sense" and what is balanced. It is NOT balanced for players to have such a huge advantage over other players in terms of maintaining demigod status. I think that much is clear. It is not "fair" for people to lose utility of skills that have acquired due to their choice to reach demigod. (I personally think it's fair but apparently others don't)

So what's better, balanced or fair? If you're going to worry about making sure people get full benefit from every skill that loses some utility due to demigod than you're making quite a bit of work for yourself right there. I'm sure all classes will be willing to submit a full report for tweaks. But this seems the wrong way to go entirely. There are *consequences* to choosing to become a demigod. Removing those consequences seems completely counter to what has been suggested by any player.

Enemies attempting to kill known aggressors back down to a less dangerous level is not griefing. It's a risk any combatant takes (or took anyway) when they decide to become a demigod. You plan around it. Thoros did some pretty intelligent political maneuvering to mitigate the risk to himself. Forren became Mr. Stealth Basher to avoid it.

And here, I will just repeat my own suggestion over and over.
-Make Lich and DarkRebirth somehow give their boni without dieing, maybe give people who were sacced for some small bonus that Demis could acquire too. Not sure about resurgem there.

I'd be perfectly fine with this.

Making people lose Demi on purpose (aka organising groups to hunt them, etc.) is griefing for me.

You do realize a bounty was on my head specifically for getting me back to Titan?

Daevos tried to do it to me. I did it right back to Daevos. Eventually he lost it.

Ixion tried to get me to quit. When I gained enough HP to where I could actually stand and fight, I started bashing Ixions.

I'm pretty sure Thoros and Ixion are big boys and can handle what they dish out, Ashteru.

Well, agree to disagree. When I was on my way to demi I had a whole plan for how I would avoid losing it quickly. I didn't consider it griefing on Mag's part if they had chosen to come for me. I probably would have at some point in my Lusternian career but I accept that it makes perfect sense for them to try. Of course then the phoenix changes came through and there was no chance they could make me lose it. Still. Something to think about I guess.

Resurgem is entirely useless to demigods. We cannot even serve as sacrifice for a soul resurgem as we never leave a corpse (and I like the fact that we don't leave a corpse kthxbai).

EDIT:
And I still maintain the opinion that giving any skill that entirely negates exp loss to only half the game (as opposed to all or preferably none) is just bound to bring up arguments like these. Now and forever. blahblub.

So, did I say I agreed with him? Nope. I, no matter who is the target of that, feel bad for them.

@Catarin: Well, I just don't like seeing people lose something they worked hard for. My own special quirk, so to say.

Some of us like to get even. Grief me and I'll grief you back tenfold.

I know, but still, sacrifice, someone dies, loses all deaths and doesn't conglut, whereas resurgem, you conglut, only need to do that like half of the time, and it's pretty low as a skill. But what would you give people that got resurgemed as a small bonus?

Yes, yes, you are a though guy, I got it in the last hundred posts.

Yeah, in most senses I'd agree but I also am a strong proponent of facing the consequences of your own actions. If you are a serious raider and a pain in the butt of an org, when you are vulnerable, they're going to try to hurt you. And when you're first a demigod that's about as vulnerable as you can get! In theory anyway.