QUOTE(Deschain @ Nov 29 2007, 04:23 AM) 460922
Have to agree with Krellan here.
When I first started as an herbalist, I was able to harvest Galingale and sell it at 10 gold per piece. As time went on, people kept selling it for less and less. By the time I switched to the Celestines, there were people selling it at 6 gold per piece. I never dropped my prices that low, I kept them at 10, but it made making deals more difficult, especially when you would announce on the market that you were selling it, and someone would immediately announce that they were selling it at half the cost.
Most of my sales started going to the big shop owners, who needed so much it didn't really matter who they bought it from.
When I first started as an herbalist, I was able to harvest Galingale and sell it at 10 gold per piece. As time went on, people kept selling it for less and less. By the time I switched to the Celestines, there were people selling it at 6 gold per piece. I never dropped my prices that low, I kept them at 10, but it made making deals more difficult, especially when you would announce on the market that you were selling it, and someone would immediately announce that they were selling it at half the cost.
Most of my sales started going to the big shop owners, who needed so much it didn't really matter who they bought it from.
When I first started as a herbalist, I was selling most herbs at about 6-7 gold per, including galingale at 6 per. Now I'm selling all but a few at 8-12 per, and I tend to get more buyers than I have herbs to sell.
Maybe all the cheap herbalists are in Serenwilde. 
QUOTE(Revan @ Nov 28 2007, 10:25 PM) 460957
Random personal attack deleted. - Mods
But I didn't get to see it.
Personal attacks should be sent directly to my PM inbox for my amusement.
QUOTE(Deschain @ Nov 29 2007, 01:36 PM) 460972
Maybe all the cheap herbalists are in Serenwilde.
*gasp* Serens, we have a spy among us! How else could they have known this guarded secret?
QUOTE(mitbulls @ Nov 29 2007, 07:50 AM) 461010
Herbs are not 'great' for gold. Sparkleberries are great for gold, if you can get them. Herbs are okay for gold when the gold bashing spots are bashed out. Really, the main reason to become an herbalist is so that you don't have to pay someone else for your herbs. Fighters could conceivably save a good deal of money by not having to buy any herbs - something that is usually overlooked when we talk about profitability. As a tailor, I get my amazing splendors, but I don't make any money at all. I save something like 15k every 2 OOC months (or more?) for robes. I probably go through more than that in herbs, so herbs would be more profitable. Still, it is not nearly as good as the amount of money you could make if you spent the same amount of time hunting.
I'm not sure if I should bother responding, but since I'm in the mood, I think I will anyways.
If you look at the quotation you took, you'll notice I already admitted that it's quite possible to make more gold by bashing. Does that mean that herbs "isn't great gold", however? You could use that argument, but then, you'd have to say the same about every other tradeskill in the game.
None of the tradeskills have the gold making potential that bashing in the undervault has, nevermind if you also do Moors, unlinked astral, manifestations of dreaming, orcs, balach, gorgogs, etc. Even with the current state of the market, though, herbs is pretty damn nice compared to a number of other trade skills. Oh no, herbs isn't the crazy profit generator it used to be! It's actually comparable to some of the other trades now! Seems perfectly reasonable to me. If herbalists still want to complain about poor profits, let them try to commiserate with poisonists, bookbinders, and artisans.
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Nov 29 2007, 11:07 AM) 461027
Bwahahahahahahah!
QUOTE(Vendetta Morendo @ Nov 29 2007, 02:11 PM) 461049
I'm not sure if I should bother responding, but since I'm in the mood, I think I will anyways.
If you look at the quotation you took, you'll notice I already admitted that it's quite possible to make more gold by bashing. Does that mean that herbs "isn't great gold", however? You could use that argument, but then, you'd have to say the same about every other tradeskill in the game.
None of the tradeskills have the gold making potential that bashing in the undervault has, nevermind if you also do Moors, unlinked astral, manifestations of dreaming, orcs, balach, gorgogs, etc. Even with the current state of the market, though, herbs is pretty damn nice compared to a number of other trade skills. Oh no, herbs isn't the crazy profit generator it used to be! It's actually comparable to some of the other trades now! Seems perfectly reasonable to me. If herbalists still want to complain about poor profits, let them try to commiserate with poisonists, bookbinders, and artisans.
If you look at the quotation you took, you'll notice I already admitted that it's quite possible to make more gold by bashing. Does that mean that herbs "isn't great gold", however? You could use that argument, but then, you'd have to say the same about every other tradeskill in the game.
None of the tradeskills have the gold making potential that bashing in the undervault has, nevermind if you also do Moors, unlinked astral, manifestations of dreaming, orcs, balach, gorgogs, etc. Even with the current state of the market, though, herbs is pretty damn nice compared to a number of other trade skills. Oh no, herbs isn't the crazy profit generator it used to be! It's actually comparable to some of the other trades now! Seems perfectly reasonable to me. If herbalists still want to complain about poor profits, let them try to commiserate with poisonists, bookbinders, and artisans.
I agree completely. The gold bashing you mentioned will always do better than any tradeskill. Compared to other tradeskills, herbs does pretty well (as I said, when I compared it to tailoring). Despite what you would think, people don't choose trade skills to make money. People choose trade skills for how it will benefit them and what they enjoy doing. Herbs is not good for gold; anyone who suggests you should change your tradeskill to herbs so you can make a ton of money easily is misleading you. It is marginally better gold than some other tradeskills might make, but also requires drastically more time than anything besides forging, and still nets less money than bashing.
Summary: I agree, tradeskills in general are not good for gold. That doesn't change the fact that herbs is not good for gold. I just don't want people to get the idea that they will actually make much money selling herbs herbs (with the exception of sparkleberries); it is not worth taking for the income. I think we basically agree on everything, but you are saying "herbs isn't horrible gold because it is better than other tradeskills" and I am saying "herbs is horrible gold, as are the other tradeskills."
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Nov 29 2007, 04:22 PM) 461071
... are you really trying to imply that you can gather that many herbs in a few minutes?
Otherwise, please don't try to say you can make thousands of gold in a few minutes as an herbalist, because you make 0 money if you spend 0 time harvesting.
Otherwise, please don't try to say you can make thousands of gold in a few minutes as an herbalist, because you make 0 money if you spend 0 time harvesting.
Nah, I was just being annoying.
At least with herbs time is the only thing you have to invest.
QUOTE(Deschain @ Nov 29 2007, 04:25 PM) 461072
Nah, I was just being annoying.
At least with herbs time is the only thing you have to invest.
At least with herbs time is the only thing you have to invest.
Unless you buy pocketbelts or gloves of harvesting. Anyways. It's a *far* greater amount of time expended than any other tradeskill, sans Forging. It's up to the individual if it's worth that.
