QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Dec 11 2007, 09:07 PM) 464410
Yea cus I think putting ammonia in place of CO2 is quite creepier than a nailshooter.
I have to agree with you on that one, but next time, put everything in and you'll get the answer:
"Gaza factory substitutes ammonia for CO2 in fizzy drinks"
Keep in mind though, that things like that you can find in other places as well...
How many toys were removed from US stores in the past couple of months after they found out the factory in China is using paint that contains lead to dangerous levels?
Israel is just as bad as any other place in the world, nothing more, nothing less.
QUOTE(daganev @ Dec 11 2007, 01:12 PM) 464401
Featured Articles in NBC affiliate site in New Hamshire: (http://www.wptz.com/wnne/index.html)
make of it what you will. (this is a comment about news and what they report, not about what a place is like living there)
make of it what you will. (this is a comment about news and what they report, not about what a place is like living there)
Yes, and how often do you see New Hampshire in international for suicide bombings? (Never.) And Israel? (A lot.) And how many people think that Israel shouldn't exist? (A lot, Google it.) And New Hampshire? (None that I know of.) How many rockets have been fired into New Hampshire? (None.) How many rockets have been fired into Israel? (A lot.)
Regardless of your news sources, I'd say New Hampshire is safer than Israel.
I'd even venture to say that Israel is quite dangerous.QUOTE(waldor @ Dec 11 2007, 02:07 PM) 464409
How far is far enough for you? Something happening in the next city? Something happening in the next state?
Like it or not, the US is one country and your problems are a global problem.
Israel is no where near the land of puppies and all that crap (thank gods), but where I live (which is about 80 KM from Gaza where the current conflict is) life is just like everywhere else - Kids get bored and stab each other, junkies rub elderly people to buy drugs...
Like it or not, the US is one country and your problems are a global problem.
Israel is no where near the land of puppies and all that crap (thank gods), but where I live (which is about 80 KM from Gaza where the current conflict is) life is just like everywhere else - Kids get bored and stab each other, junkies rub elderly people to buy drugs...
I think an accurate comparison would involve population size and density. Israel is small and has about 7 million people, last I checked. America is frigging huge and has roughly 300 million. By having that many more people, America should have that much more crime, but it's likely still not as concentrated (crime per person or something, heh) as Israel, nor as violent (America typically doesn't have bombs and rockets going off anywhere within its borders).
QUOTE(waldor @ Dec 11 2007, 02:19 PM) 464411
Israel is just as bad as any other place in the world, nothing more, nothing less.
I'd say it's much, much more.
Anyway, enough arguing about this dangerous world. We all know we're
ed, so I'm probably not going to be responding much after this. QUOTE(Kromsh @ Dec 11 2007, 02:20 PM) 464412
Yes, and how often do you see New Hampshire in international for suicide bombings? (Never.) And Israel?
Mexico and Canada are not exactly our enemies. Imagine if we had Iran or Taliban Afghanistan on our border. Israel is surrounded by countries which want its destruction. The same countries that hate Israel also hate the United States.
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Dec 11 2007, 02:20 PM) 464412
How many rockets have been fired into New Hampshire? (None.) How many rockets have been fired into Israel?
See border statement above.
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Dec 11 2007, 02:20 PM) 464412
Regardless of your news sources, I'd say New Hampshire is safer than Israel. I'd even venture to say that Israel is quite dangerous.
I think an accurate comparison would involve population size and density. Israel is small and has about 7 million people, last I checked. America is frigging huge and has roughly 300 million. By having that many more people, America should have that much more crime, but it's likely still not as concentrated (crime per person or something, heh) as Israel, nor as violent (America typically doesn't have bombs and rockets going off anywhere within its borders).
I'd say it's much, much more.
I'd even venture to say that Israel is quite dangerous.I think an accurate comparison would involve population size and density. Israel is small and has about 7 million people, last I checked. America is frigging huge and has roughly 300 million. By having that many more people, America should have that much more crime, but it's likely still not as concentrated (crime per person or something, heh) as Israel, nor as violent (America typically doesn't have bombs and rockets going off anywhere within its borders).
I'd say it's much, much more.
I'd argue that Israel is much safer (excluding the Palestinian Authority-controlled areas). My university is in a town that has crime almost daily - there was a strongarm robbery recently inside our main library. There isn't much in Israel. There is also hardly any gun violence.
EDIT: Decided to google crime statistics - for murder per capita, United States is #24. Israel didn't even make the list.
QUOTE(Forren @ Dec 11 2007, 03:13 PM) 464432
Mexico and Canada are not exactly our enemies. Imagine if we had Iran or Taliban Afghanistan on our border. Israel is surrounded by countries which want its destruction.
That is precisely why it is dangerous.
QUOTE(Forren @ Dec 11 2007, 03:13 PM) 464432
EDIT: Decided to google crime statistics - for murder per capita, United States is #24. Israel didn't even make the list.
Perhaps it didn't have any data? (Doubtful
) Either way, crime is a lot more than murder, and danger is a lot more than crime. See: rockets, bombs (really ing dangerous!, not exactly in crime statistics). If you can't even go to parts of your country because they're getting bombarded with hostile explosives, then your country is dangerous. Now, I have nothing against Israel, and the cities and such probably are relatively safe, but let me have the last word, damn you. 
"Perhaps it didn't have any data? (Doubtful tongue.gif) Either way, crime is a lot more than murder, and danger is a lot more than crime. See: rockets, bombs (really censor.gif ing dangerous!, not exactly in crime statistics)."
ironically this is actually a current debate.
You see, the people in Sderot have been really lucky, and out of the some 2,000 rockets, only 8 or so have hit people. So the Palestinians are complaining that Israel is overreacting to the rocket attacks, since not many people are being hurt, and not much property is being damaged
So while the rockets and suciced bombers and very terrorfying aka scary, they aren't actually very dangerous (thanks to Israel's beefed up security)
ironically this is actually a current debate.
You see, the people in Sderot have been really lucky, and out of the some 2,000 rockets, only 8 or so have hit people. So the Palestinians are complaining that Israel is overreacting to the rocket attacks, since not many people are being hurt, and not much property is being damaged
So while the rockets and suciced bombers and very terrorfying aka scary, they aren't actually very dangerous (thanks to Israel's beefed up security)
QUOTE(daganev @ Dec 11 2007, 04:46 PM) 464478
ironically this is actually a current debate.
You see, the people in Sderot have been really lucky, and out of the some 2,000 rockets, only 8 or so have hit people. So the Palestinians are complaining that Israel is overreacting to the rocket attacks, since not many people are being hurt, and not much property is being damaged
So while the rockets and suciced bombers and very terrorfying aka scary, they aren't actually very dangerous (thanks to Israel's beefed up security)
You see, the people in Sderot have been really lucky, and out of the some 2,000 rockets, only 8 or so have hit people. So the Palestinians are complaining that Israel is overreacting to the rocket attacks, since not many people are being hurt, and not much property is being damaged
So while the rockets and suciced bombers and very terrorfying aka scary, they aren't actually very dangerous (thanks to Israel's beefed up security)
"Oh, you're right, Farhid. How silly of me. I guess you won't mind..." FWOOOSH "...if we just..." FWOOOSH "...fire a few..." FWOOOSH "...more..." FWOOOSH "...back at you!"
QUOTE(waldor @ Dec 21 2007, 01:24 AM) 468837
Enjoy the flight.
Are you staying at a place with internet access? Internet Cafes are not as common as they are in the US, but if you have a laptop with wireless, you can easily find a Cafe with free wireless access.
Edit: Oh, and let me know if you want a map with wireless access Cafes, I'll send you a link.
Are you staying at a place with internet access? Internet Cafes are not as common as they are in the US, but if you have a laptop with wireless, you can easily find a Cafe with free wireless access.
Edit: Oh, and let me know if you want a map with wireless access Cafes, I'll send you a link.
Really? When I was there I spent most of my time with access to wireless spots. I guess it depends where you are, and what you are doing.
Also, I can't think of a single internet cafe in my area
(though we do have plenty of starbucks who are willing to overcharge you to search google )