You must just be wrong. If nobody fights on prime then are Krin and Veonira just making things up? I don't think so.

Obviously I don't literally mean "nobody", but if you watch deathsight, hours can go by at a time without a prime non-arena PvP death.

I certainly haven't noticed a problem, but maybe it's just because no one ever jumps me. (Seriously, I go and sit at the aetherplex hoping to be jumped sometimes, but no takers ever arrive )

You're much too awesome is all. *plays the Sham theme-song*

Awesome I have as many suspects as Forren.... on my way to being able to Acrune people yet!





PK is all about personel perspective. To me once is one too many. For Shamarah, he probably couldn't get enough. Finding a balance between that is difficult because someone isn't going to be happy.

As I already said. If both parties want to fight, no system will stop you from fighting.

Am I a huge nerd for giggling at that?



Since this was moved to General Discussion and is no longer a rant, and so I'm actually going to put more thought into it..
People do get jumped, but I agree with you that I don't feel that it's a problem (At least when I'm logged in, I try to pay attention to where Mags are dying to see what's going on). I also don't think that jumping active combatants from another org is a big deal. On that note, I don't know who Neuf's character is, so I can't really speak to the situation of anyone of decent level being jumped. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary.

I'm much more likely to log out because of constant planar raiding rather than prime pk. (Oh God, can of worms! Ignore this in any context other than PK on prime!)

This is more of a player issue than a system issue. People aren't going to jump people they can't beat. They go for the easier targets. This has been proved to be true too many times for it not to be.

Part of the problem is that it's incredibly easy simply to bypass every PK prevention system by attacking them while they're bashing or off-plane. Then there's essentially nothing your average noncombatant can do to get revenge, or your average combatant can do to get revenge on someone like Narsrim or Shamarah who does it.

You might once have thought that stuff like not getting suspect for ganking people in Tosha would lead to people legitimately protecting it (I don't think this has ever really come up except MAYBE Amaru...maybe) doing so for RP reasons but instead it just leads to people waiting until you're hunting there to jump you and get away with no loss at all. Even if you did suspect, karma curses are completely worthless, so that isn't about to help you.

The main place it comes up is Shallach Ruins, with the ur'Dead (and Magnagorans defending it for roleplay).

I though you people wanted combat? huh, wasnt there this big thread not long ago asking how to improve the pk situation..

Stop making the basin nirvana -- Here, ill write here the description of lusternia in the iron realms website:



Maybe just replace this with -- peaceful basin where you can hunt in peace.. You know back then when i was chosing which ire games to play, being in a corrupted basin attractred me for some reason.. i thought there be battles on end.. yay me?

(although, actually there are battles on end now.. the numbers of raids and defenses have increased dramatically lately.. it makes me happy..)

To krin or neuf: This is a sincere question -- did you by any chance happen to piss off someone? maybe raided and yelled some insulting remarks? You really shouldnt do that if you are not super strong enough.. people remember things that you say and do..

It doesn't help you as an individual unless your attacker has a history of such things. If one individual jumps you once and no one else in the last thirty days, you have to consider that the attacker isn't the one doing something wrong.

Well, I think once you get suspect you shouldn't have any worries on prime, anyway. But it's when the constant jumping is off prime/enemied territory that's the problem.

I beg to differ. Knowledge curse essentially ensures that the target isn't fighting until they lift it.

With the current system that just isn't true. Daedalion can gank randomnewb in Faethorn inf times, doing something wrong, and get off scot-free by running/hiding in Etherglom. If they don't enter Faethorn or try to, god forbid, bash elemental/Astral, it's as easy as waiting until they bash something completely random like, I don't know, lucidians in the observatory.

Occasionally you might get a suspect if someone finds a prime opportunity to kill you by coincidence (Thoros ganking me outside of Delport), but even then you can't karma curse anyone because karma is incredibly easy to get, especially for those people, and it wouldn't do anything.

Shamarah, "lifting it" is pretty much synonymous with "walking to the knowledge seal".

Well, some of us don't keep full karma constantly, Mr. Karma Mantra

just so you know that mantra does 20 dmg from 60% diffrence.... nice try...

Btw: My best time here was when shellma was there, and a huge raid on prime, when they all the forests wanted to kill the lucidian ._.

I would prefear more PK its realy lacking its all gank battles.

hai2u, humor?

Note: This has nothing to do with the problem of masses of people getting griefed on prime for no reason if that is indeed a problem. It's directed solely at Krin

I'm pretty certain Krin was part of the group that spent over an hour raiding Celestia last night and tried to kill Raziela but I'm not 100% certain. No wait, he was the bard. Yes, definitely part of that group.

Here's what I don't get. You spent a day raiding right? You killed angels, you shouted insults, you tried to kill a supernal, killed a ton of Celest defenders, many of whom had to pray. And the next day you expect to just be left alone to hunt peacefully on prime because you're not raiding anymore? There are consequences to actions. You had fun fighting in that raid I assume? But it's not fun to face the music for it? I never really understand that mindset....

I don't use that mantra anymore, they removed it from the game without replacing it.

I spent a half hour of raiding. and had 9 hours yes it took 9 hours to bash back the exp i lost today, and yes that was completly bashing time i didnt take a break, and im still not positive on the exp.
if you dont believe this qoute check the message where somone said i was rank 260 and than HONORS KRIN
-edited to reply to catarin- i didnt attack the supernal actually i was even there till after it was 70% over.