Yes, I know that. However, unless someone sees the mask fall off, they won't know who that individual person is showing up as a masked aslaran or whatever. If you keep your possession of the mask guarded, it can still have its uses, because no one is going to know that that masked faeling is you, unless you tell them, or they figure it out via other means. In which case they would have figured it out no matter how many people had the mask.

Edit: And since the scrying pool isn't working, if anyone could PM me the ABs for Ninjakari and Stealth if you have them, that'd be really appreciated. Thanks!

Or better, put them here. I would appreciate them as well - so if putting them here is not possible, would love a PM.

On an unrelated sidenote.. it irks me that the Admin waited until when they did to release Ninjakari, but aren't going to make them public until either late today or early tomorrow. Some of us only have time to play a decent amount on the weekends and have been looking forward to this guild for months.

Just seems like an unthoughtful call to waste the weekend when people could be playing characters/buying credits.

They did it for all the new guilds. Whats another week, eesh?

A lot, actually. Especially with the holidays coming, what I might have justified spending this weekend will be harder to justify spending next weekend when Christmas is directly around the corner and I've picked up a lot of last minute gifts. It just seems pointless when they could have released them on a wednesday, held the elections, and opened it to the public on Friday.

Just seems like bad business move. And, you know, some of us have been waiting for this guild for months, as I said. So finding my opportunity to enjoy it shafted sorta sucks.

Yeah, because when you want to start building the internal structure of a new guild, everyone knows that Wednesday is the best day to do that

They've had months and months that they should have been planning that out. Ialie had the Spiritsingers fully designed with helpfiles and everything within days of the Harbingers coming out so that she would be ready. There's not really an excuse for the Mag guild to not have had things ready to go.

They'd still need time to finalize everything- get the "founders" into the guild, hold the elections, transfer the help scrolls, appoint people to positions, etc.

And elections don't require any effort. Start them on Wednesday and poof, there you go, done. Its not like it requires active participation. So its not like that happening on a weekend effects any of what you just listed. Not to mention, the sort of people who are leaders are the sorts who can play on weekdays usually.

Not all of the "founders" are going to be around all the time though. Those are the people who put the most work into the guild, so naturally the opening should when they're most likely to be able to play.

And if it opened to the public on the weekend.. they wouldn't have time to play then? If they wouldn't have time to play then.. then they aren't going to have time to play while its not open to the public on the weekend.

I don't recall all of the specifics as to the Tahtetso founding. I was freshly returned from long absence and still rather out of it when I managed to join in. But I remember every day Estarra would pop in and ask 'Ready yet?' 'How long?' They recognize the need for expediency, especially when word gets around that founders exist and structure is getting put in place.

I couldn't speak for the Mag Monk Committee, but very little of the help files in the Celest monk clan were transferred. That was mostly about skill design, naming conventions, guildhall layout and room descriptions, things like that. Almost all of the guild scrolls were drafted and put in place during those few days, and a fair amount of the guild theme and ethos was still being hammered out. It felt like a very fly-by-night operation, which fortunately turned out passing fair.

I have to hand it to Vesar, though. That was a lot of eleventh hour management, and the documents he drafted were right on the mark.

Anyhow... regarding the timing, weekends would seem superior for getting all of the prep work done. During the weekdays, there would be a lot less cohesion, fewer and shorter opportunities to get all heads together to hash out any work that needs done. If the weekends are better for the average player, why aren't they better for the leadership? And as for founders... most of them didn't turn out. Again, I don't know about the Ninjakari founders, but of the Tahtetso founders, there were only four or five actively churning out material to get the guild doors opened. And one of those is on the other side of the planet from the rest of us, at least three of those had day jobs, and what not.

Well, I guess I just figured that with months and months, they should have already found their times to get all the prep work done. The fact that they didn't is just meh. You want to found and lead a guild, then damn well act like it and show some initiative. There really isn't an excuse for why the ethos and everything of the guild wasn't very well established already. Not one. If they can do it this weekend they could have done it any other weekend previously. It just shows a complete lack of leadership/dedication if the would-be leaders are so much more focused on getting themselves l33t skills than making themselves a good guild in the other ways that matter.

Now, this is just assuming they didn't do jack on any of the internal structure until just now.

Hm. I wonder. Will a Masquerade Mask + Marauder's Mask result in you being a masked version of the race of the person you're masquerading as?

Speaking of, I really wish Stealth had a version of ChangeSelf, cause even race alone can earn you a totally different interaction with someone.

We do in fact have everything ready. Collegian, Novice, laws, RP structure, History, Sects, Advancement have all been done for weeks now. There are a great deal of things that go on behind the scenes that delay things.

Well then, I have no problem with the leadership then, just my mild irritation with the admin.

Edit: Any ETA on when the guild will open to the public?

I WANNA BE THE DRUNKEN MONK! OPEN UP ALREADY!

Revan is GM?

well, that was the solution to my overpowering anticipation.

I'll wait for Glom's.

You know, just for the sake of bringing it up, some people (like myself) work on weekends. It would be interesting to see how many players (not necessarily forum goers, since there's many players who never or infrequently see these forums) actually have the traditional mon-fri schedule.

Now, a lot of events do happen on weekends, and many of them happen while I'm at work. Now, I work during the week as well, and go to school at night, so I'm not going to sit here and expect events to fall neatly into my chaotic schedule, but it is nice when something like monks, and actual significant event, does fall outside of the traditional weekend, because then there is a chance that I'll actually get to see it!

the waiting game is a bitch