Spiritsingers are better than the Cacophony, barring fights against dreamweavers. Wildarrane is an entirely ridiculous skillset.

Thing is..we have Pixiedust, Selenelullaby, Hartdream, and Whitehorn...three of those are passive, the first only works when someone uses poisons (and what bard in their right mind would choose Ecology over Glamours right now) and the last needs power. Why not change it so that any afflictions stuck will work on Pixiedust instead of just limiting it to just poisons? :|

Must be better then it looks. I briefly considered joining Serenwilde to be with Raiha and Alban, until I saw WildArrane.

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Have you ever seen Glamours?

-makes teh Spiritsingerz moar opz?-

It's incredibly poor unless you're an ecologist. It's mostly dead weight. And the only thing you can do with ecology is rack up BS kills off pixiedust.
I hold that the best strategy is to retool the terrible tiredness affs to focus on something else. Maybe like regular sleep instead of tiredness. THEN they can get upgrades.

Unless PerfectFifth was raised to 8p when I wasn't looking, there's no reason a Spiritsinger couldn't pull off the timed instakill more consistently than every other bard.

Still not consistently enough to matter.

I agree to this! Please make it so!

The trouble is it's hard to redesign the central focus an entire skillset via one or two changes at a time. You can't really do this unless you do it as a single, integrated, coherent plan, which means you'll have to endure things becoming less useful for the many months of the transition, as you have half of one design and half of the other failing to synergize with one another. Worse yet, a later step might very well be shot down by the envoys or admins, and then you've got nothing, and no way to recover.

Even so, I think it's still the plan to try to do so, after we push through the Glamours nerfs necessary to get anyone to even consider fixing anything.

I think a more reasonable change would be to queenslament, which costs 3 power and is not nearly as useful as colorburst. Have it shackle AND stun. And maybe increase the effectiveness of despairweb to actually slow some people down. And sobbingdread to do something like paralyze someone when they leave the room.
I can tell you I use the same 9-10 songs every time, and it's because the other songs are just not worth it, even if combined properly.

Necroscream is the best bard spec.

I speak as someone who was once the most active bard fighter and the ex-Cacophony envoy.

Do not argue with me.

Right, until the ridiculously stupid glamours nerfs come out, leave the bard specs alone.

Heres your comparison of necroscream vs starhymn Krin...
If everythings up do date.

Starhymn:

*LoveCanticle: Faster sipping of health mana and bromides
*HopesCarol: Minor protection against elemental
*StarLight: Boosts Endurance recovery and gives slight health regen
*MercifulSanctus: Enemies sip health mana and bromides slower
*CrusaderCanto: Chance to make salves turn to dust (doesnt this get charges to do damage to people now?)
*LightCantata: Force all enemies to kneel
*CelestOde: Boost damage
*AngelSong: Angels attack faster
*Recessional: Chance to prevent eating and drinking
*EverSea: Enemies cant put up magical defenses in water (on water)


Necroscream:

*Vileblood: Passive curing
*UndeadBlues: Turns you and allies undead, grants slight physical reduction
*TortureSong: Increases pain and cutting damage to an extent it rains willpower
*DespairWeb: Enemies writhe slower
*Necroballad: All Undead will regenerate health
*CarillonKneel: Drain enemies endurance and willpower
*SickeningPlague: Give enemies pox and cause hunger
*EngineWords: Up damage
*DemonSong: Demons attack faster
*TaintedLove: Allies get eq and bal faster, enemies get it slower (on taint)
*DarkMaster: Passive domiate on enemies, note I believe it takes eq to actually ORDER

Be aware I ignored both the power skills as rather useless. Also Cacophony strip conciousness from knights, so you cant stop from passing out.

The problem with Wildarrane is that, as long as you have metawake, the only threat sleep poses from a bard is that you have to stand every so often. And it's really spammy. But bards don't really have any way of capitalizing on sleep.

Your forgot Starhymn Processional and why would you put Carillon Kneel.. you also for got one of starhymns skills blinds too. Added in the fact that our power skill is useless that makes DespairWeb useless. Elemental damage means they get resistance to cold fire earth lightning and poison i think. while we get resistance to cutting/blunt. Hunger is widely pointless when fighting somone whos fought you at least once before, im not sure what Pox does though honestly. One last thing to say A passive Dominate isn't really possible to use for more than one situation. I use it to force people to unenemy and ally me and the such but that is about it.

I would imagine Wildarrance + mesmerize would be a pretty nifty combination....

Ah yes the blind skill. And CarillonKnell means you can run them outta wp or end in long fights

Their power skill is also kinda useless so those are fine. Passive starve is nice if they dont have food.

And dominate has a host of uses, one of the best being to stop tumble/somersault

no malarious im not talking about their power skill Because our power skill is useless it makes dispair web also usless..

Web Enchant if you really need to hinder em?