Making Friends

by Unknown

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Noola2008-01-18 22:25:23
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 18 2008, 04:22 PM) 478153
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I'll be your friend Acrune!
Acrune2008-01-18 22:27:07
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jan 18 2008, 05:22 PM) 478152
But I don't want to seem or sound conceited...


Then don't act conceited. Doesn't mean you can't like yourself and know what your strengths are.
Acrune2008-01-18 22:27:22
QUOTE(Noola @ Jan 18 2008, 05:25 PM) 478157
I'll be your friend Acrune!


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Unknown2008-01-18 22:29:42
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 18 2008, 05:22 PM) 478151
From what I understand, friendship is more about compatibility of personalities over what you're willing to do for them. I'm a person with a strange sense of humor who went through school without trying very hard but stayed in the advanced classes. Guess what most of my friends are like. Goofy lazy nerds tongue.gif


I'm similar, except my family situation blows the whole idea off balance. The last time I had a real friend, I think, was in Kindergarten. And she died.
Unknown2008-01-18 22:31:31
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 18 2008, 05:27 PM) 478158
Then don't act conceited. Doesn't mean you can't like yourself and know what your strengths are.


Doesn't liking yourself usually involve positive reinforcement?

... I think I'll like myself when I find something about me to like. blackeye.gif
Acrune2008-01-18 22:47:47
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jan 18 2008, 05:31 PM) 478161
Doesn't liking yourself usually involve positive reinforcement?

... I think I'll like myself when I find something about me to like. blackeye.gif


Well, you seem to be a caring person. And, since people copy off your test, you probably a good scholar. Thats a start.
Unknown2008-01-18 22:50:32
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 18 2008, 05:47 PM) 478163
Well, you seem to be a caring person. And, since people copy off your test, you probably a good scholar. Thats a start.


... pushover and a nerd...

<~~ Has nothing nice to say about herself
Jigan2008-01-18 22:53:00
Allowing one's ego to overtake one's skill makes one conceited and boastful.

Regarding people who use others like trash...

Personally, I feel they should be flayed alive and rolled in salt.

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Unknown2008-01-18 22:53:02
If even Noola's calling them a-holes, I'd say they're not your friends.

Seriously, though. I wouldn't call a one-way friendship like that a real friendship. They're using you for themselves and don't give a damn about your needs. They're not worth your time.

I can only really reiterate what others have said. Get away from the jerks, take a step back, and look at everything. The assistance you gave those people is what you have to offer in terms of friendship, and friendship isn't even always about what you have do offer. If you get along with someone, if they share your interests, if you can enjoy yourself and consider your time well spent by simply having a conversation with them, that's friendship. Mutual assistance, rather than the one-way-exchange that you described that's friendship. Recognising the above could even be called friendship.

Good luck!

EDIT: Jigan, that post just above mine looks really weird in conjunction with your signature.
Daganev2008-01-18 22:53:17
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jan 18 2008, 02:31 PM) 478161
Doesn't liking yourself usually involve positive reinforcement?

... I think I'll like myself when I find something about me to like. blackeye.gif

I used to think the same thing.

It turns out that thinking that way is wrong.


I suggest you either create a charachter and make them arrogant, see what its like. They say sometimes you have to go to an extereme to help you find the balance.

Another option is to read Roark's book IG. Its based of the books by Ayn Rand and can really help a person find their inner qualities. (Fyi, I did neither of those things myself. I just had an ephiphany in highschool after I got in a car accident from trying to help my loser friend, and they didn't care about how I was. They just asked me when I'm getting another car to take them places)
Acrune2008-01-18 22:54:49
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jan 18 2008, 05:50 PM) 478166
... pushover and a nerd...

<~~ Has nothing nice to say about herself


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Daganev2008-01-18 23:00:10
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jan 18 2008, 02:50 PM) 478166
... pushover and a nerd...

<~~ Has nothing nice to say about herself


If you were in the Ebonguard with Daganev in the early days, he would say the following to you.

"Stop thinking, and start doing."

You don't have to be able to list your good qualities to have confidence in yourself. Just doing the things you are good at will be enough.

Plus, you have a fiance, no other friends should matter.
Unknown2008-01-18 23:00:39
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 18 2008, 05:54 PM) 478171
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Not at an art school. sad.gif
Unknown2008-01-18 23:02:18
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 18 2008, 06:00 PM) 478173
If you were in the Ebonguard with Daganev in the early days, he would say the following to you.

"Stop thinking, and start doing."

You don't have to be able to list your good qualities to have confidence in yourself. Just doing the things you are good at will be enough.

Plus, you have a fiance, no other friends should matter.


I love him, but, he can't be there for me during school hours (usually), you know? Besides, he wants to hang out with his friends sometimes, and just chill with the guys, I can't exactly pop up and come along...
Unknown2008-01-18 23:05:41
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 18 2008, 05:53 PM) 478170
I used to think the same thing.

It turns out that thinking that way is wrong.
I suggest you either create a charachter and make them arrogant, see what its like. They say sometimes you have to go to an extereme to help you find the balance.

Another option is to read Roark's book IG. Its based of the books by Ayn Rand and can really help a person find their inner qualities. (Fyi, I did neither of those things myself. I just had an ephiphany in highschool after I got in a car accident from trying to help my loser friend, and they didn't care about how I was. They just asked me when I'm getting another car to take them places)


I've tried making other characters...

... it doesn't really work for me.

No matter what I do, I end up RPing my own persona in my charas...

... I end up having friends when I'm me on Lusty.

I think I'm addicted. crying.gif
Unknown2008-01-18 23:06:55
Learn to say no. It's easier than you probably think. There is no point in having so called friends who are openly mocking you and making you feel like censor.gif .
Daganev2008-01-18 23:09:48
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jan 18 2008, 03:02 PM) 478175
I love him, but, he can't be there for me during school hours (usually), you know? Besides, he wants to hang out with his friends sometimes, and just chill with the guys, I can't exactly pop up and come along...


Heh, thats exactly what I did after all my friends moved to Israel or other parts of the country. I took on my wife's friends as my own. (but I understand you can't really do that sometimes.)

HOWEVER,

You mention you are in art school. This is the -perfect- place to have no friends. Seriously, it is.

I'm not going to tell you how to view art, or be an artist, but I imagine if you got close to some of your teachers, they could give you lots of hints and tips on how to get your work into museums. Most people don't follow the advice artschools give them, because they A. Don't think they are good enough, B. Don't have enough time, or C. Feel embarrassed to do so because of thier friends.

Now, one thing I learned in artschool, is that it if you suck at art, that really doesn't matter. Sucking at art matters if you want to get a job in the commercial fields once you leave school. However, if you just want to be an artist, being bad is the perfect opportunity to have your backstory, and your angst and sorrows and emotions fill the collectors heads with "Deep thoughts" and thereby get your work shown in museums. No matter how bad your art, there is always someon who will want to display it in thier museum. (if your skills at getting work into the museum are good. Which is completely unrelated to your skills at doing art. And the only way you will learn those skills, is from your art teachers, during office hours. WHICH, if you had friends, you would not be able to go to.)
Jasato2008-01-18 23:46:18
1. a person attached to another by feelings of affection or personal regard.
2. a person who gives assistance; patron; supporter: friends of the Boston Symphony.
3. a person who is on good terms with another; a person who is not hostile: Who goes there? Friend or foe?

Dictionary.com's interpretation of what a friend is.

A friend, is someone that stands by your side, comforts you when your down, laughs with you when you laugh, and so on. Everyone here (including yourself) know's this. The 'friends' that you have, I'm sure everyone either here, or else where for that matter, has had their own fair share. To each their own, they've either managed to deal with it, ditched them, or even more so changed the people to understand who they were and what they truly meant to them.

This is a path that only people can suggest, but as usual, only you can walk upon the decision. If you want my advice, this is what it'd be...

First off, it's nice to be able to help those in need, but you can only do so much. Especially if they turn away when you need them. Those aren't the greatest of friends. I think aquaintences is the best term there. Friends will ask for help, but in return, give it when you need it. Friends give, and take in moderation, what is needed. Ask yourself, Is this truly the work of friendship, or just being taken advantage of? I'd suggest, just as everyone else, that you find another form of friends.

Take time to yourself, meet random people, get to know them. Strangely enough, sometimes the best friend, starts out as a random person. One of my best friends I met over a dispute and a misunderstanding, which happen to involve him, his sister, someone that was living with my uncle (who was friend's with his sister) and I kid you not, a sausage biscuit.

Life works mysteriously. Get out and try to live it. It's a slow process, but it works one way or another.
Unknown2008-01-18 23:48:09
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 18 2008, 06:09 PM) 478180
Heh, thats exactly what I did after all my friends moved to Israel or other parts of the country. I took on my wife's friends as my own. (but I understand you can't really do that sometimes.)

HOWEVER,

You mention you are in art school. This is the -perfect- place to have no friends. Seriously, it is.

I'm not going to tell you how to view art, or be an artist, but I imagine if you got close to some of your teachers, they could give you lots of hints and tips on how to get your work into museums. Most people don't follow the advice artschools give them, because they A. Don't think they are good enough, B. Don't have enough time, or C. Feel embarrassed to do so because of thier friends.

Now, one thing I learned in artschool, is that it if you suck at art, that really doesn't matter. Sucking at art matters if you want to get a job in the commercial fields once you leave school. However, if you just want to be an artist, being bad is the perfect opportunity to have your backstory, and your angst and sorrows and emotions fill the collectors heads with "Deep thoughts" and thereby get your work shown in museums. No matter how bad your art, there is always someon who will want to display it in thier museum. (if your skills at getting work into the museum are good. Which is completely unrelated to your skills at doing art. And the only way you will learn those skills, is from your art teachers, during office hours. WHICH, if you had friends, you would not be able to go to.)


My poster was chosen for the school Gospel Choir... I'm not a normal artist, like my classmates. I do vector art...
Unknown2008-01-18 23:56:44
QUOTE(Reiha @ Jan 18 2008, 10:11 PM) 478147
I'll be your frieeeend, if you let me wub.gif

If you have skype, I'm usually on Saturdays kiss.gif

P.S. I won't be Acrune's friend, though. nonono.gif

Omigawd. Would you be my friend? Would you be my bff? ohyeah.gif