Eldanien2008-01-28 13:35:37
QUOTE(Forren @ Jan 28 2008, 07:29 AM) 481350
I'm fairly sure the writhing for grapples as it works is not a bug.
Yes, I was of the understanding that this is how it is intentioned. Multiple grappels = 1 writhe. There were other ISSUES related to this early on in the Tahtetso (specifically regarding Tipheret/Summer) that makes me think this is the case.
Xavius2008-01-28 13:35:56
It's not in either of the logs I thought it was. (I'm horrible about logging in general.) I'm sure I could harass ninjas into double ninshi'ing me when I wake up.
Shiri2008-01-28 13:37:00
I don't know about "should." It would certainly make sense, but it would also be overpowered.
That's for one monk, btw. Multiple writhes from multiple monks is fair.
That's for one monk, btw. Multiple writhes from multiple monks is fair.
Eldanien2008-01-28 13:41:27
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 28 2008, 07:37 AM) 481355
That's for one monk, btw. Multiple writhes from multiple monks is fair.
Does it work like that? Test this? Or do you know for certain? I was under the impression that multiple monks did not mean multiple writhes. I'm not convinced of the fairness here, though I can see cases both ways.
Two people webbing != two writhes.
On the other hand, grapples more or less lock a monk into a narrower range of attacks. More so, if they're grappling, they've got their kata set up for that and single writhing off ten monks seems silly when you extend it out.
Forren2008-01-28 13:42:26
QUOTE(Eldanien @ Jan 28 2008, 08:41 AM) 481356
Two people webbing != two writhes.
Yep - you can't have an affliction more than once - but one person webbing, one person shackling, one person roping and you have three writhes.
Shiri2008-01-28 13:44:53
QUOTE(Eldanien @ Jan 28 2008, 01:41 PM) 481356
Does it work like that? Test this? Or do you know for certain? I was under the impression that multiple monks did not mean multiple writhes. I'm not convinced of the fairness here, though I can see cases both ways.
Two people webbing != two writhes.
On the other hand, grapples more or less lock a monk into a narrower range of attacks. More so, if they're grappling, they've got their kata set up for that and single writhing off ten monks seems silly when you extend it out.
Two people webbing != two writhes.
On the other hand, grapples more or less lock a monk into a narrower range of attacks. More so, if they're grappling, they've got their kata set up for that and single writhing off ten monks seems silly when you extend it out.
Well, tell Xavius that, not me, he said it, I just trusted him on that it was true (which may have been a bad idea because I just refuted another idea he had, but unlike that one I don't know any better myself.)
Xenthos2008-01-28 17:09:30
QUOTE(Xavius @ Jan 28 2008, 08:23 AM) 481344
The second one is a known not-really-bug-just-weird thing.
AKA a "feature".
It works for all writhe-things that can be ended before the person finishes writhing, including pinleg.
Ceren2008-01-29 02:11:51
One writhe will take care of any amount of grapples from any amount of monks.
Eldanien2008-01-29 03:21:53
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Noctu2008-02-18 05:53:42
Ive been pinlegged by Thoros to death in the recent FFA so I started investigating about it.. Good thing there is already this thread.. however, I do have some questions still
1. It seems I need to writhe twice from two pinlegs.. and something strange is happening when I do --
So if seems you need to use two writhe.. however, in here, im still unbalanced from the first writhe and couldnt writhe again..
It might be good since, if BM's can do two pinlegs.. i can also writhe out of it twice in succession.. :mutter:
2. After writhing out of the pinlegs.. when i diagnosed, i found this --
3. Not really related to pinlegs.. but in my spars against titans/demi, they all seem to writhe so fast.. like this --
You weave the light around Thoros into a complex glamour, which erupts in fascinating patterns that overwhelm his senses.
3342h, 3120m, 3665e, 0p, 14239en, 17641w xk-
You have recovered equilibrium. -- just 2sec or so after fascinte due to my mugwump speed.. however
3342h, 4158m, 3810e, 0p, 14239en, 17641w exk-
You point an etched opal ring at Thoros, and sparks fly out of it.
Sticky strands of webbing spray out to cover Thoros.
3342h, 4158m, 3810e, 0p, 14239en, 17641w xk-
Thoros mutters and clenches his fists which begin to glow. The glow spreads across his body and burns away the bonds that tie him. -- it seems that fascinate did not have the desired effect
3342h, 4233m, 3810e, 0p, 14249en, 17647w xk-
What happened here? did he writhed out of fascinate so fast then invoked tipheret? (the fascinate unwrithe line did not appear at all too) -- Or does tipheret works even if under fascinate?
Anyone who can shed some light in here? im a little puzzled.. and awh.. now my pinleg system, it would need a lot of work..
1. It seems I need to writhe twice from two pinlegs.. and something strange is happening when I do --
QUOTE
With a powerful lunge, Thoros strikes at you with Aygul, the silver scimitar. Thoros strikes deep into your right foot, pinning it down with Aygul, the silver scimitar. You involuntarily crumple to a crouch and can think of nothing but freeing your impaled foot.
3342h, 3603m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w exkp-
With a powerful lunge, Thoros strikes at you with Aylin, the silver scimitar. Thoros strikes deep into your right foot, pinning it down with Aylin, the silver scimitar. You involuntarily crumple to a crouch and can think of nothing but freeing your impaled foot.
2917h, 3603m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w exkp-
You begin to writhe furiously to escape the blade that has impaled you.
2917h, 3353m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
With an heroic effort you manage to writhe yourself free from that which impaled you.
2917h, 3353m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
The sharp pain in your foot from the weapon pinning it to the ground makes you incapable of anything other than thinking of escaping it. -- Still pinned
2917h, 3353m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
Your body is too unbalanced to be able to writhe free of the weapon.
2917h, 3103m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
3342h, 3603m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w exkp-
With a powerful lunge, Thoros strikes at you with Aylin, the silver scimitar. Thoros strikes deep into your right foot, pinning it down with Aylin, the silver scimitar. You involuntarily crumple to a crouch and can think of nothing but freeing your impaled foot.
2917h, 3603m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w exkp-
You begin to writhe furiously to escape the blade that has impaled you.
2917h, 3353m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
With an heroic effort you manage to writhe yourself free from that which impaled you.
2917h, 3353m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
The sharp pain in your foot from the weapon pinning it to the ground makes you incapable of anything other than thinking of escaping it. -- Still pinned
2917h, 3353m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
Your body is too unbalanced to be able to writhe free of the weapon.
2917h, 3103m, 3685e, 1p, 14351en, 17028w ekp-
So if seems you need to use two writhe.. however, in here, im still unbalanced from the first writhe and couldnt writhe again..
It might be good since, if BM's can do two pinlegs.. i can also writhe out of it twice in succession.. :mutter:
2. After writhing out of the pinlegs.. when i diagnosed, i found this --
QUOTE
You are:
suffering from a pierced right leg.
an insomniac.
So a pinleg gives a pinleg and afterwards it gives pierced legs? Thats a mighty fine skills in there..suffering from a pierced right leg.
an insomniac.
3. Not really related to pinlegs.. but in my spars against titans/demi, they all seem to writhe so fast.. like this --
QUOTE
You weave the light around Thoros into a complex glamour, which erupts in fascinating patterns that overwhelm his senses.
3342h, 3120m, 3665e, 0p, 14239en, 17641w xk-
You have recovered equilibrium. -- just 2sec or so after fascinte due to my mugwump speed.. however
3342h, 4158m, 3810e, 0p, 14239en, 17641w exk-
You point an etched opal ring at Thoros, and sparks fly out of it.
Sticky strands of webbing spray out to cover Thoros.
3342h, 4158m, 3810e, 0p, 14239en, 17641w xk-
Thoros mutters and clenches his fists which begin to glow. The glow spreads across his body and burns away the bonds that tie him. -- it seems that fascinate did not have the desired effect
3342h, 4233m, 3810e, 0p, 14249en, 17647w xk-
What happened here? did he writhed out of fascinate so fast then invoked tipheret? (the fascinate unwrithe line did not appear at all too) -- Or does tipheret works even if under fascinate?
Anyone who can shed some light in here? im a little puzzled.. and awh.. now my pinleg system, it would need a lot of work..
Unknown2008-02-18 06:03:07
pinleg is the only offensive skill a bm gets it damn well better be useful..
Xenthos2008-02-18 16:42:27
QUOTE(noctu @ Feb 18 2008, 12:53 AM) 487643
Ive been pinlegged by Thoros to death in the recent FFA so I started investigating about it.. Good thing there is already this thread.. however, I do have some questions still
1. It seems I need to writhe twice from two pinlegs.. and something strange is happening when I do --
So if seems you need to use two writhe.. however, in here, im still unbalanced from the first writhe and couldnt writhe again..
It might be good since, if BM's can do two pinlegs.. i can also writhe out of it twice in succession.. :mutter:
2. After writhing out of the pinlegs.. when i diagnosed, i found this --
So a pinleg gives a pinleg and afterwards it gives pierced legs? Thats a mighty fine skills in there..
3. Not really related to pinlegs.. but in my spars against titans/demi, they all seem to writhe so fast.. like this --
What happened here? did he writhed out of fascinate so fast then invoked tipheret? (the fascinate unwrithe line did not appear at all too) -- Or does tipheret works even if under fascinate?
Anyone who can shed some light in here? im a little puzzled.. and awh.. now my pinleg system, it would need a lot of work..
1. It seems I need to writhe twice from two pinlegs.. and something strange is happening when I do --
So if seems you need to use two writhe.. however, in here, im still unbalanced from the first writhe and couldnt writhe again..
It might be good since, if BM's can do two pinlegs.. i can also writhe out of it twice in succession.. :mutter:
2. After writhing out of the pinlegs.. when i diagnosed, i found this --
So a pinleg gives a pinleg and afterwards it gives pierced legs? Thats a mighty fine skills in there..
3. Not really related to pinlegs.. but in my spars against titans/demi, they all seem to writhe so fast.. like this --
What happened here? did he writhed out of fascinate so fast then invoked tipheret? (the fascinate unwrithe line did not appear at all too) -- Or does tipheret works even if under fascinate?
Anyone who can shed some light in here? im a little puzzled.. and awh.. now my pinleg system, it would need a lot of work..
Not quite.
1) Thoros had you pinned twice. Two weapons in your leg means you need to writhe twice, once for each weapon. Usually you get balance back before a writhe completes, but apparently your Spiderlegs song is affecting that. That's an issue with you writhing too fast-- waiting until balance returns is still faster than most other people get out.
2) Pierced leg is a lesser affliction that Thoros got on the way to pinning you. We have artery, pierced, pin, sever on legs (in order of least->most severity).
3) Demigods can change their size to 1 (so can titans) for ultra-fast writhing.
Ilyarin2008-02-18 16:56:10
Pierced leg is also given when you get pinned.
Shamarah2008-02-19 13:03:54
Writhing from transfix isn't affected by size, and transfix doesn't stop you from using tipheret.