Why is there is big push to make monks and bards part of a 'parent' guild. Both guilds have roleplay SO seperate from the other guilds, there is no way to really merge them into a current guild.

In Mag, Ur'Guard are very military like. Ninjakari are a Brotherhood, a strict family, but a family none the less.

You wouldn't have to have a unique twist (that doesn't work) if it was just another warrior spec.

It would also solve a crap-load of problems if you changed the Kata skillsets to work with normal wounding like normal warriors. You wouldn't have to have a unique twist (that doesn't work) if it was just another warrior spec.

Yes, uniqueness is always a problem! Conform, dangit!!!

Yes, because we need to waste MORE development time revamping monks AGAIN.

Druids are bards, as are Priests. Druids tap into the song of the forest. Priests are all about hymns and can't forget the angelic choirs.

As for the monks, they shouldn't have been given separate roleplay, but rather should have been put into the warrior guilds to begin with. And the Ur'Guard may be very military-like at the lower-levels, bt it is very very family/brotherhood-y among those who are Knighted. You could definitely make it work, and it would be better for the game overall, increasing the activity in the guilds.

Then you'd just need to come up with a new branch for Wiccans and Mages to balance it out. :-P Or for Mages, maybe make Elemental Mages and Psionic Mages totally separate. And with Wiccans.. I dunno what to do there, to be honest.

The chances of getting a new archetype or ideally two (2-line division) at some point in the not-so-immediate future is much higher.

If cities get an archetype based on sexual harrassment

Wtf

I aim to confound and bemuse.

You failed at that.

You did, however, succeed with "greatly disturb".

So there'd be a choice of Necroscream and Earthdirge, Starhymn and Tidesong, etc.

I second your third.. which makes it third squared.. which makes it ninthed, right? That's enough to get it done!

More skillsets, please.

We can't really sustain new guilds, but adding to the ones we've got is good.
I'd like to see primary skill choices, actually.

Examples:
Mages get a sorcery type option, where they can't meld and rely more on direct effects like calcifying flesh and boiling blood. The more traditional type of mage. Also have summoning options, perhaps, where elementals can be called up (grub/gargoyle/wyrm, leech/starsucker/turtle?) and given lesser powers (based on the Earth/Tidelords) to assist.

Guardians get an option that doesn't have angels/demons, and instead they become more angel/demon like and rely primarily on their own powers, supplicating to different Supernals/Demonlords for different effects. Also, perhaps an Esoterica specialization where the focus is generalized Cosmic study to do with the formation of the planes and reality. Potential for some sort of cosmic demesnes, maybe, where you can set up blessed/defiled land to cause effects (and make it work on Ethereal/Elemental).

Wiccans get a specialization in fae magic outside of summoning, so they can throw pixiedust on people and sprout fae wings and things, as well as getting the powers of the respective avatars (slaugh touch and paralyze howl for Night, naked and preggers for Moon). Perhaps a demesne type option here, too, if guardians are getting one.

Druids get something that allows them to ditch the demesne and work without it. I'm thinking pseudo-shapechanger. Seren become more bear/stag/wolf-like (biting and mauling), Glom become more bird/serpent/insect-like (rending with talons and stinging). Also add the more generalized forest mysticism to that, things reminiscent of Scarab and Darkseed, perhaps some voodoo-type lore.

Warriors get more magical-type options. A magic-based version of Athletics (Abjuration)? Acrobatics and Daggers should be choices, as well as Archery. A magic weapon type spec could be done, where you summon/create a weapon and train with it (like instrument proficiency), and you can modify the stats on it at whim. Functions like a caster class that uses deepwounds. Scythes for Magnagora, Spears for Celest, Greatmace for Seren, Axe for Glom? You'd need to take Totems/Rituals and Abjuration as prerequisite, but it opens up the interesting option for an intelligence based melee specialization.

Bards should have a jester-type choice, and I think most of you know what I mean with that. Mountable balloon giraffes please. Also, needs more choices to replace Acrobatics. Useful tertiaries required.

Monks get nerfed.

/rambling.

As you see, we don't need more guilds. We just need more skillsets.

WARMAGE FTW!!!!!!!

Everytime you hit a person with a weapon it does the usual damage and deepwounds. However, warrior based afflictions are limited to medium wound level. Once you get heavy and critical wound levels, instead of doing afflictions you get blood charges.

Then you have certain spells that only work from these bloodmagic charges, and you can cast spells targeted at thier critical limbs! (blood charges stay stored in your bloodstone from fight to fight, so you could beat up on your friends to collect them, however the spells only activate if the prerequisite limbs are at critical)