We already die repeatedly in PK and lose nothing.

Death is meaningless. I also find xp in general meaningless, except as a descriptive way to talk about old school Narsrim's griefing.

A lot of the arguments you use against the idea in other places are exactly why I think it'd be a great idea. Don't you want to be able to raid Magnagora at the peak of its online strength and still kill a Demon Lord by having better tactics and fighters? Don't you want death to mean something? Don't you want a real way to put down hit and run raiders? A system where the costs of death are only cumulative and long-term isn't very engaging. A system where the costs of death are right now and more tangible seems much better. If the cost for a failed raid is an hour doing things that don't involve PK or bashing and the cost for dying in defense is a greatly hampered ability to defend or bash for 10-15 minutes, it seems like we're accomplishing what was intended by the xp-loss system all along.

Psionics burnout means a full loss of skills. Losing a few stats is nowhere near the same thing, nor is it requiring you to sit around for an "hour of shame". It does, however, require you to be a bit more careful in what you choose to do and perhaps use up a few more herbs and health potions. Hunting something a bit easier for a time would help limit that, though.

I think we're ignoring the real issues, which is the norm with Lusternia. Rainydays brought up a good point in his post. Playing leadership roles in this game has allowed me to view firsthand what does chase away players, especially potential new ones. I've tried to bring over old friends from Achaea, who absolutely refuse due to the steep learning curve and coding nightmare that awaits. If you're not prepared to invest a bunch of credits and buy/code a good system, you're not going to play. What of players who've wanted to quit over crappy skill implementations or constructs? Are we going to eradicate those abominations? This change doesn't feel necessary in light of other things that should be addressed.

Psionic burnout meant, for me, no forcefield. As a merian, it meant no bashing. For Sarrasri, this skill reduction would mean no drawdown. Hell, it would also mean no Forcefield for a telekinetic.

Though we can hunt rats, chances are if we tried to bash anything worth its experience we'd die.

Forren's nonsense aside, this much is true. All the guilds need a kill condition at the expert-gifted range, and I'm tired of losing people over the way druid combat is designed (while Forren complains about a desire to change it).

I lose 100k essence off prime, how about you? I already addressed my distaste for the low costs we have and especially for abilities that remove xp loss entirely, like I believe you possess.

I lose xp in raids and defense, contrary to what Serens may or may not tell you. Probably exactly the same amount you did at level 81!

Darkrebirth doesn't make you immune to experience loss?

Yes, clearly most players are spewing nonsense. *points to poll above*. Last night, when the active forumgoers had already taken a look at the poll, 66% of players opposed this. It's still a majority.

Darkrebirth doesn't make you immune to experience loss?

No.

I'm actually wondering what the poll numbers would say if it was redone, with people having had a chance to think more about it and with the skill loss part excised. It's certainly nowhere near as against, percentage-wise, as it was last night.

Apparently the xp loss immunity is prime-only. Didn't know!

That's been one of the major limiters of it since... ever. That, and the whole have-to-gather-carrion thing. (PS. Please fix the Darknest. It should not give me DarkRebirth for 10p, and the egg should not ever be gettable except by its owner. It should last much longer, and it should be resummonable at the Nest by touching it again.)

PSS. And fix the worthless pile of crap that is the Angelfont too! Thanks!

I want a useful construct.

I think people should learn to use the multiquote function!