I like them appearing in aetherbubbles - gives an advantage to the original person who's told of the location. It's easy enough for a Demigod to seek the person getting the sceptre and take their own ship. With flashpoints, it takes less than twenty seconds to do that.

That's assuming that everybody involved in this is a commander with flashpoints, yes? And it doesn't show up on a bubble that you don't personally have flashpoints to?

Are you supposed to have to be a Commander with flashpoints to make the challenge, or try to participate if someone else does?

Well...it took a long time. I don't think we could have managed it with any resistance. It's very PK-orientated. We'll see though - depending on how long we can expect to see these blessings last, that may be a good/necessary thing.

vis. the bubbles: yes I do have a problem, but only because aetherbubbles are a giant pain in the arse to get to if you don't have flashpoints. This is an aetherbubble problem, not a domoth problem. I know you have plans for fixing that kind of thing so I guess we just have to hope they get implemented sooner rather than later so we can see how it goes.

I'll actually agree with this completely. If it was easier to get to them in general, fine.

I know we've discussed some alternatives for reaching them in the past, but never really came up with any solution (as far as I can recall, at least).

It's too easy to close those off.

Right now, I don't see myself helping anyone claim any Domotheos again. The benefits (a small amount of gold, and a possible small increase in stats depending on race) just seem to be outweighed by the amount of time and essence I personally had to put into it. And Forren even had a Seal of Knowledge, already cutting the process in half.

So, will I make use of the system in its current form? Not unless I was given a huge non-mechanical incentive (someone offered credits, for example). And definitely not if the challenger doesn't hold a Seal.

Both Communes have a few spores to the lower levels of the Catacombs, which kind of gets around the "closed off" thing-- but yeah, it would be more of a problem for the cities. Hrm.

The bonuses are for large groups of people. I used up around 200,000 essence. They're worth it.

Right, but it all depends on how long you can reasonably expect them to last.

Right - mine's going to last for 6 rl days. That's damn long.

Right, but as Catarin pointed out, the actual people who actually get the Domotheos don't really benefit much/at all from doing all this.

I'd take +2 weighted strength from minor war, if it's all the same. Any bonus is better than no bonus.

Some of the blessings could be better, but that's where shaping and suggestions come in.

When you already have 22 strength, I doubt an extra strength point would matter enough for the amount of essence lost. Though yes, since I don't have suggestions, I'm pointing out the places I think needs improving for more creative people to find solutions for.

This may be a late night, half asleep ramble, but I think this may be interesting... Have the items pop into actual aetherspace, and give the demigod or ascendant brief super-sayan-flying-through-aetherspace power, which wears off once the item is claimed, or when the item would disappear and the challenge is failed.

Any others who wanted to try and claim it would just have to go to the place where the last person had just initiated that, to receive the same blessing, and off they'd go, flying through aetherspace. That gives you a biiiig area to look through.

I like that idea, but from what I understand of the way that Aetherspace works (and that isn't much, I admit) this might be impossible to code. I've lost count of the number of untrappeds I caused accidentally geting inside an aetherspace room that doesn't actually exist.

Yeah, part of that idea was actually based on my recollection of someone somehow getting into aetherspace once (was it Narsrim?). If it could be coded, I think it'd be a lot of fun.

Hang on...

Forren's recieved something from Knowledge?

Did you bless anything?

Considering the Celenwilde effect I should just move to Seren or Celest I suppose, this only really favours people getting large numbers of Demis or ascendants, of which most of them are in Celenwilde.

I don't know, Magnadoring has its own good share of demigods, particularly Kaervas and Thoros. And every org can raise an ascendant, so you guys can't be completely left out in the cold.

EDIT: Hey, even you're a titan. Put some extra effort in and get demi!

Prior to Commander coming out and there being flashpints plenty of people managed to fly around aetherspace and get to aetherbubbles just fine. It is not hard. It is not even that time consuming. You just have to know the map and have access to a ship. Besides Xion, I cannot think of any aether bubble that it would take more than 5 to 10 minutes max of manual flying to get to.

Aether bubbles are pretty much the only areas where it's truly neutral territory. They're a good spot for this. If you dislike aetherspace for whatever reason get someone who doesn't to fly you.