Hyrtakos2008-02-28 02:20:45
I look forward to you guys absolving some thrones then.
Shiri2008-02-28 02:22:55
Shouldn't you guys be doing it first? We're just trying to consolidate our existing ones, and quite rightly so.
Hyrtakos2008-02-28 02:30:33
QUOTE(Shiri @ Feb 27 2008, 09:22 PM) 489821
Shouldn't you guys be doing it first? We're just trying to consolidate our existing ones, and quite rightly so.
Considering that you need control of the opposing domotheos to absolve a domotheos, no... no we can't.
I think coupling the ease of holding a domotheos with this method of taking control of them away from their current holder will leave absolutely no diverging from the current setup for some time.
Catarin2008-02-28 02:37:45
Not to rain on the hoplesness parade or anything but there are still two thrones free. Which could be claimed by someone not of Celest or the Serenwilde. That oppose other thrones. That could be used to absolve those other thrones. Just a thought.
Hyrtakos2008-02-28 02:48:34
QUOTE(Catarin @ Feb 27 2008, 09:37 PM) 489825
Not to rain on the hoplesness parade or anything but there are still two thrones free. Which could be claimed by someone not of Celest or the Serenwilde. That oppose other thrones. That could be used to absolve those other thrones. Just a thought.
Even so, that still means that there are two other thrones currently in no risk of being absolved.
While your point is valid and ultimately true, it only serves to attempt covering up my real point as far as the design of things. For the sake of argument, we can even assume that demigods and ascendants from Hallifax collectively control all of the thrones. How could Celest get in there and take part?
Shiri2008-02-28 02:55:34
QUOTE(hyrtakos @ Feb 28 2008, 02:48 AM) 489828
While your point is valid and ultimately true, it only serves to attempt covering up my real point as far as the design of things. For the sake of argument, we can even assume that demigods and ascendants from Hallifax collectively control all of the thrones. How could Celest get in there and take part?
I was about to say something like this, but got stuck org (not 2!) pwning Death monsters.
Yeah, if one org controlled them all, absolving them would be a bitch. There's a restriction only on the same person controlling both life and death. You couldn't make this restriction org-based because then there'd be no incentive to absolve either.
So I suggest something new (and that you can't just interfere with/wreck with PK) for it.
Forren2008-02-28 03:03:10
Why haven't Mag or Glom gone for them? It's not like we've been trying to stop them.
Hyrtakos2008-02-28 03:16:47
QUOTE(Forren @ Feb 27 2008, 10:03 PM) 489830
Why haven't Mag or Glom gone for them? It's not like we've been trying to stop them.
Actually a group of celestians and serens did stop Thoros when he tried.
Shiri2008-02-28 03:24:40
QUOTE(hyrtakos @ Feb 28 2008, 03:16 AM) 489833
Actually a group of celestians and serens did stop Thoros when he tried.
Thoros tried once, and Geb stopped him alone. Unless this is another time you're talking about - but that's the only time I've seen any such thing happen.
Xenthos2008-02-28 03:40:04
QUOTE(Forren @ Feb 27 2008, 10:03 PM) 489830
Why haven't Mag or Glom gone for them? It's not like we've been trying to stop them.
I think Glomdoring's down to 3 active/semi-active Demigods, and none of them are on at the same time as each other (or if they are, it's very short windows). From what I can tell, it's somewhat hard to get some of them alone. Not sure how difficult the last two are, though.
Shiri2008-02-28 03:52:17
Two of yours are warriors, so you should be able to take any sceptre solo without -too- much trouble. You'll have a lot more trouble with the orb or crown though.
Try raising an ascendant or two.
Try raising an ascendant or two.
Xenthos2008-02-28 03:53:44
QUOTE(Shiri @ Feb 27 2008, 10:52 PM) 489842
Two of yours are warriors, so you should be able to take any sceptre solo without -too- much trouble. You'll have a lot more trouble with the orb or crown though.
Try raising an ascendant or two.
Try raising an ascendant or two.
One of our inactive Demigods also happens to be a GuildMaster, so... until she comes back we're a bit short on that count, too.
Or someone contests. Nobody really seems interested in the job, though, for some reason. Wonder why...
Shiri2008-02-28 03:55:50
Oh...I can see how that would be a problem, hm.
(She's a titan though.)
(She's a titan though.)
Xenthos2008-02-28 03:56:59
QUOTE(Shiri @ Feb 27 2008, 10:55 PM) 489844
Oh...I can see how that would be a problem, hm.
(She's a titan though.)
(She's a titan though.)
Ah.
Close enough! Except for the whole "Entering the Domoth" thing.
Rika2008-02-28 03:57:24
Just like to thank the admins for the Domoth changes. I will probably more actively take part in this system now.
Forren2008-02-28 03:58:29
Personally I think the rewards are too high, but that's just me!
Xenthos2008-02-28 04:06:47
QUOTE(Forren @ Feb 27 2008, 10:58 PM) 489847
Personally I think the rewards are too high, but that's just me!
I think the power gain's too high. By quite a bit. Maybe 100/250/500, or 50/100/250 per. Smaller, but there are 9 of them, and it will add up over time (and could be used to "raise" an Ascendant/Demigod's power limit by that amount or some percentage of it).
At the current rate, one *orb* fully covers the biggest Construct, with 150 surplus. It kind of removes the whole "have to watch your power expenditure" thing, if you can get even 3 crowns. Fully covers all of your Constructs, and generates an equal amount more. Even just two completely covers all current Constructs, plus some.
Xavius2008-02-28 04:11:29
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Feb 27 2008, 10:06 PM) 489848
I think the power gain's too high. By quite a bit. Maybe 100/250/500, or 50/100/250 per. Smaller, but there are 9 of them, and it will add up over time (and could be used to "raise" an Ascendant/Demigod's power limit by that amount or some percentage of it).
At the current rate, one *orb* fully covers the biggest Construct, with 150 surplus. It kind of removes the whole "have to watch your power expenditure" thing, if you can get even 3 crowns. Fully covers all of your Constructs, and generates an equal amount more. Even just two completely covers all current Constructs, plus some.
At the current rate, one *orb* fully covers the biggest Construct, with 150 surplus. It kind of removes the whole "have to watch your power expenditure" thing, if you can get even 3 crowns. Fully covers all of your Constructs, and generates an equal amount more. Even just two completely covers all current Constructs, plus some.
I agree with you there. The personal benefit is great. I'm all for personal benefit in exchange for personal work. The buffs are a bit of a wait and see deal. I'm not so sure about the power boost.
Catarin2008-02-28 04:11:49
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Feb 27 2008, 09:06 PM) 489848
I think the power gain's too high. By quite a bit. Maybe 100/250/500, or 50/100/250 per. Smaller, but there are 9 of them, and it will add up over time (and could be used to "raise" an Ascendant/Demigod's power limit by that amount or some percentage of it).
At the current rate, one *orb* fully covers the biggest Construct, with 150 surplus. It kind of removes the whole "have to watch your power expenditure" thing, if you can get even 3 crowns. Fully covers all of your Constructs, and generates an equal amount more. Even just two completely covers all current Constructs, plus some.
At the current rate, one *orb* fully covers the biggest Construct, with 150 surplus. It kind of removes the whole "have to watch your power expenditure" thing, if you can get even 3 crowns. Fully covers all of your Constructs, and generates an equal amount more. Even just two completely covers all current Constructs, plus some.
Yeah I'd agree the power is too high. 100/250/500 seems better. The 50/100/250 seems too small. Maybe not. The essence gain as well. It doesn't really need to completely cover all the costs required to get the crown. 10k per day might be better.
Xenthos2008-02-28 04:14:50
QUOTE(Catarin @ Feb 27 2008, 11:11 PM) 489850
Yeah I'd agree the power is too high. 100/250/500 seems better. The 50/100/250 seems too small. Maybe not. The essence gain as well. It doesn't really need to completely cover all the costs required to get the crown. 10k per day might be better.
Yeah. It does seem small, but consider that an organization can get up to 9 of them, which is 2250 power a day... now, it may not actually happen very often, but the potential's there. That's pretty significant. Even half of that's significant, or a third of it. 750 power for 3 crowns, covers a big Construct plus some extra. A nice benefit, without being overwhelming.
That said, I'm fine with 100/250/500 too (1500 power for 3 crowns, which pretty much covers all constructs but doesn't give excess power each day on top of it).