The primary problem here is that, for as long as an Ascendant wishes to actively learn Ascendance, he or she will not really have essence available for anything else (divinefire, refreshing, reincarnating, etc). Also, my calculations put Ascendance to trans at >100m, so 100 days by your 1m/day standards, 200 days by half that, and 2 years by your final estimate. That is a long time to have no useable pool of essence.

Not sure how it's a problem. It's a choice an Ascendant makes. If they want to put all their essence towards Ascendancy then they will not have some of the other perks available to them. They can choose to take longer to gain ranks in Ascendancy in order to have essence available for other things. Unless you are saying that any time an Ascendant learns in Ascendancy it immediately takes all their available essence and gives a rank...? Not sure how it works.

There are ways to do it Vis, yeah it would take a while, but the whole thing is a theoretical question. In which people seem too hung up on the 1 mil thing.

I bet people wouldn't be so hung up on power if the Megalith had 50mil power and popped out 10 VA's in a day (especially if the VAs who were raised were level 70 when they were raised). Then maybe the actual question would have been answered

(And I bet I get responses from people saying that the megalith doesn't have 50mil power, heh, typical)

If anyone seems 'hung up' on the 1 mill power thing, it's because it's related to your concern. It should cancel out your concern.

BUT, that said, I kinda find the idea of power-purchasing demigod status to be very... I don't know. I don't know if I like it. Lusternia's taking a drastic new turn and I wonder how this will play out. Never thought one could skip the grinding and have demigod handed to you. But one million power is no small thing.

Maybe I'm confused, or missing something, but it doesn't sound like it's handed to you at all. One million power is no small thing, after all. If you gather 2,740 power a day every day, you could get a million power in just a little over 364 days. That's basically a year, and that's if you do it every single day of that year.

How's that different than the 'grinding'?

The vernals being raised now haven't personally put in that million power. It comes down to who that city/commune chooses. Xenthos went up what, 10 levels or so? It seems quite different from actually bashing to demigod on your own. As far as those who intend to gather a million power on their own, good luck. Keeping track of that will be annoying.

I'm still confused though, is it possible for an org to raise more than one at a time?

If you don't do it personally; if the "grind burden" is amortized over the population of a city/commune instead of all being done by one person, you can get demigod-level power without doing all the grinding personally. Heck, if the Seren leaders snorted a few too many mushroom spores, they could raise my character up to be a Vernal Ascendant, and I'm something like level 58.

I don't believe she's talking about the people who actually put a million power into a Nexus. You don't really have to put the power in to be raised though if an org chooses to do so.

While I'm leery of the system, I think getting an org to choose to spend a million power on you is a feat in and of itself. Assuming they put any thought behind it.

Well currently, the orgs can raise two, if they want. Except for Mag. Maybe SW too, don't know. Celest and Glom could definitely raise two people now if they wish.

I think VA needs to be seen as a different kind of accomplishment than Demigod. People can disparage getting to demigod as "mindless bashing" but there is something to be said for those people who have it as a goal and get there. VA is more of a recognition of your contributions to your IC community rather than so much of a very personal achievement.

Ah, ok. I get that. However, I still don't see it as a problem, personally. I mean, the org had to have some reason for picking the people they did - and I've never known an org to just throw away power. I mean, they all have some sorts of restrictions on power drawing and immolations and linking manses and so on, and none of that costs anywhere close to a million a peice. I just don't see an org being willing to toss a million power out willy-nilly just cause they want RandomJoe to jump from level 60 to Demi.

Now, if folks gather their own... well, hell. Maybe they deserve it! Though really, if the orgs can only have one, I don't see them doing that cause they'd have to drop the one they already have, raise that guy and then either keep him or drop him and reraise the one they already had? Sounds like a big ol hassle to me.

Oh, see, I thought it was set up so that orgs could only raise one - no matter how much power they actually had. (sort of like how I thought the VA/TA cults were completely seperate from the Orders, I guess! )

I'd have an easier time doing that, if they weren't suddenly leveling up and prancing about with demigod stats. Lusternia has a small population. The addition of demigod-like ascendants may tip the scale a bit much. Maybe they should have been a special race, with their nifty ascendant skillset, but then the issue of essence and how it factors in with the Domoth realms would have to be addressed. Seems to me, the admin felt this was the easiest way to go about it. Moosh them in with demigods and voila.

Orgs can have as many VAs as they have power for. We can raise newbie1 and turn around and raise newbie2 without newbie1's status being effected at all if we have the power for it.

Yeah. I'm getting how I'm wrong in my assumption. I swear, I thought I read there could only be one somewhere.

Ah well. I still think that orgs wouldn't be willing to just throw power around like that very often, if at all. And, like I said, if someone raised it on their own, then maybe they deserve it.

I'm hardly prancing.

Certainly, it's pretty darned exciting to see how big a difference those levels make, but... how many times now have people asked for a roleplaying way to get to Demigod? If you play up the roleplaying aspect and play down the combat aspect a bit, this *is* that way. I'm not the biggest, baddest combatant in the Glomdoring, but I've put in enough time and effort into the forest to at least equal the amount of time and effort it takes to get to Demigod (well, in my opinion at least... this could be very wrong). At least, I'm pretty sure that's the reason I was chosen.

There was an announce post saying there could be only 1.

Then there was an announce post saying there could be as many as you like.

But the kicker is if you behead all the other Vernals in your org, you get to be super powerful.

Ah! I must've missed that second one. Well good. At least I'm not crazy!

Really! I'm not. Mostly.