Unknown2008-02-27 04:53:26
QUOTE(geb @ Feb 26 2008, 09:49 PM) 489617
I see you are incapable of countering my point, so you go into trying to insult me. My post was directed to your statement of futility. I on the other hand pointed out that it is possible to avoid what you say is impossible. I also gave an example by using myself as a mage outside of a demesne and another Celestine who was a mugwump at the time. So essentially, who was actually helping here? Was it you with your point that it is "Impossible" or my point of showing that it is possible, and that I know because I have personally done it before?
I also pointed out that it is best to actually listen to people who know, instead of people who only think they know. Just because you sit here and say something is impossible over and over again, does not negate the fact that others have and continue to do what you can not.
I also pointed out that it is best to actually listen to people who know, instead of people who only think they know. Just because you sit here and say something is impossible over and over again, does not negate the fact that others have and continue to do what you can not.
You are beyond impossible. Too bad void is faster than shield? Too bad I have logs of shielding, then Narsrim voiding and hitting with inquisition before I have eq back? Seriously, I don't know who told you that you know everything, but they lied. You didn't point out anything other than "lol you suck." You didn't offer any suggestion. What you did do was exactly what I thought you would do. Nice try Geb. You can give all the examples you want, anyone with a clue knows shielding doesn't work against inquisition, and it sure as hell won't work against a mugwump. You didn't prove anything. Try again.
Nezha2008-02-27 04:58:52
you two should agree to disagree
Arix2008-02-27 05:00:10
Do more damage
Ildaudid2008-02-27 05:02:58
The system I used always had a line saying:
SHIELD IN 2 SECONDS SHIELD IN 2 SECONDS
And it seemed to work if I actually shielded. Maybe it was because the aggressor wasn't trying to void me but I don't know. Also can't you leave the room on Inqui? I always do or I try to gust them out of the room.
SHIELD IN 2 SECONDS SHIELD IN 2 SECONDS
And it seemed to work if I actually shielded. Maybe it was because the aggressor wasn't trying to void me but I don't know. Also can't you leave the room on Inqui? I always do or I try to gust them out of the room.
Unknown2008-02-27 05:05:27
Honestly it wasnt the Inquisition that killed me or really even set me back. It was the running out of health potion that got me killed.
Nezha2008-02-27 05:14:58
QUOTE
Now -- if you want to make hunger tick over and over again.. you need to use refrain like this (assuming you are at the stanza where hunger is imbued. ie. stanza 4-6)
perform refrain hungersong
-- wait for balance --
perform refrain hungersong
perform refrain hungersong
-- wait for balance --
perform refrain hungersong
I just tested.. this doesnt even seem to work. it resets the timer and the effect actually seems to take a longer time coming than if i jsut sung the stanza once and waited for it..
interesting..
Edit: Nope, no effect on timer.. refraining will just prolong the music.. but the effects seems to trigger at a constant time.. might be there is no way to trigger hunger faster..
Geb2008-02-27 05:18:53
QUOTE(Bianca @ Feb 27 2008, 05:53 AM) 489624
You are beyond impossible. Too bad void is faster than shield? Too bad I have logs of shielding, then Narsrim voiding and hitting with inquisition before I have eq back? Seriously, I don't know who told you that you know everything, but they lied. You didn't point out anything other than "lol you suck." You didn't offer any suggestion. What you did do was exactly what I thought you would do. Nice try Geb. You can give all the examples you want, anyone with a clue knows shielding doesn't work against inquisition, and it sure as hell won't work against a mugwump. You didn't prove anything. Try again.
How did I avoid a mugwump Inquisition Bianca? I avoided it multiple times, outside of a demesne on spars. It seems you are incapable of explaining how other people are able to do it, but you are unable. Plenty have avoided Inquisition from mugwumps, but since you are incapable of doing it makes it magically impossible?
Anyhow, no where have I stated that I know everything about combat. What I will state is that I am willing to actually learn from mistakes and try to do better. You seem to have the mindset that if you fail at it a few times, it is time to give up and label it impossible. Oh, and just so you know, I never said shield was the way to avoid it. Others have stated that, and have used it effectively. What I have pointed out that there are ways to avoid it, and those with acrobatics and demesnes have an even easier time of avoiding it outside of perhaps ghost users and people with sacraments.
Oh, and explain to me how you are helping by telling him it is impossible to avoid Inquisition; that the only solution is the nerf it?
Unknown2008-02-27 05:39:52
QUOTE(geb @ Feb 26 2008, 11:18 PM) 489631
How did I avoid a mugwump Inquisition Bianca? I avoided it multiple times, outside of a demesne on spars. It seems you are incapable of explaining how other people are able to do it, but you are unable. Plenty have avoided Inquisition from mugwumps, but since you are incapable of doing it makes it magically impossible?
Anyhow, no where have I stated that I know everything about combat. What I will state is that I am willing to actually learn from mistakes and try to do better. You seem to have the mindset that if you fail at it a few times, it is time to give up and label it impossible. Oh, and just so you know, I never said shield was the way to avoid it. Others have stated that, and have used it effectively. What I have pointed out that there are ways to avoid it, and those with acrobatics and demesnes have an even easier time of avoiding it outside of perhaps ghost users and people with sacraments.
Oh, and explain to me how you are helping by telling him it is impossible to avoid Inquisition; that the only solution is the nerf it?
Anyhow, no where have I stated that I know everything about combat. What I will state is that I am willing to actually learn from mistakes and try to do better. You seem to have the mindset that if you fail at it a few times, it is time to give up and label it impossible. Oh, and just so you know, I never said shield was the way to avoid it. Others have stated that, and have used it effectively. What I have pointed out that there are ways to avoid it, and those with acrobatics and demesnes have an even easier time of avoiding it outside of perhaps ghost users and people with sacraments.
Oh, and explain to me how you are helping by telling him it is impossible to avoid Inquisition; that the only solution is the nerf it?
LOL. You imagine things, Geb. When did I say anything about nerfing Inquisition in this thread? Instead of addressing issues in this thread, you bring up my personal feelings about Inquisition that have not been even touched upon in this thread nor do they have any bearing on this thread. When did I say avoiding it was impossible? In his log, he shields, Narsrim voids then Inquisitions. My suggestion was don't use shield against Inquisition. Honestly, Geb, if you are going to call me out on something, actually read my posts.
I'm actually a little embarrassed for you. That, and laughing pretty hard.
Geb2008-02-27 05:44:17
QUOTE(Bianca @ Feb 27 2008, 06:39 AM) 489634
LOL. You imagine things, Geb. When did I say anything about nerfing Inquisition in this thread? Instead of addressing issues in this thread, you bring up my personal feelings about Inquisition that have not been even touched upon in this thread nor do they have any bearing on this thread. When did I say avoiding it was impossible? In his log, he shields, Narsrim voids then Inquisitions. My suggestion was don't use shield against Inquisition. Honestly, Geb, if you are going to call me out on something, actually read my posts.
I'm actually a little embarrassed for you. That, and laughing pretty hard.
I'm actually a little embarrassed for you. That, and laughing pretty hard.
I suggest you go back and look at a couple of your posts you have made on these forums. You have multiple times stated that Inquisition is overpowered, it is impossible to avoid. Do you desire me to seek them out for you and post them?
Rika2008-02-27 05:45:28
QUOTE(Bianca @ Feb 27 2008, 06:39 PM) 489634
When did I say avoiding it was impossible?
Pretty sure this has something to do with it:
QUOTE(Bianca)
Reality is, Mugwump Narsrim can spit out web, paralysis, inquisition faster than you can run. He can deny it all he wants.
Unknown2008-02-27 05:46:41
QUOTE(geb @ Feb 26 2008, 11:44 PM) 489635
I suggest you go back and look at a couple of your posts you have made on these forums. You have multiple times stated that Inquisition is overpowered, it is impossible to avoid. Do you desire me to seek them out for you and post them?
DENSE. DENSE DENSE DENSE.
You are impossible. I give up.
I can't argue with someone who isn't even reading my posts before replying.
Unknown2008-02-27 05:48:19
Mmhm, did either of you actually read my log? i never even attempted to shield the inqisution.
Unknown2008-02-27 05:52:04
A cloudy vision forms in your mind's eye of a towering, angelic woman with a
cobalt blue shield who shouts, "Heretic, get thee from the Light!" She points at
you and a bolt of blue lightning slams into you.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w lrx-
x
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 9.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 8.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 7.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
Muttering words of power, you trace a cobalt blue pentagram in the air that
remains hovering before you, protecting against assault.
You shielded on Heretic. Close enough.
And right after that was....
Narsrim mutters and pokes his index finger towards you and makes a hooking
gesture. Invisible energies slam against you, ripping apart your magical shield
of protection.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
apply mending to legs
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve has no discernable effect.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
Blood drips from Narsrim's nose as rainbow lights swirl around him in a
maddening frenzy.
A column of holy fire erupts before you. The image of a gigantic, angelic man
wielding a flaming sword steps out and bellows, "Infidel! Repent or forever be
consigned to the Pits of Nil!" Invisible, demonic claws grab at you, rending
your flesh, as hellfire blisters your skin.
2672h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
Like I said, Shield = ineffective.
cobalt blue shield who shouts, "Heretic, get thee from the Light!" She points at
you and a bolt of blue lightning slams into you.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w lrx-
x
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 9.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 8.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 7.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
Muttering words of power, you trace a cobalt blue pentagram in the air that
remains hovering before you, protecting against assault.
You shielded on Heretic. Close enough.
And right after that was....
Narsrim mutters and pokes his index finger towards you and makes a hooking
gesture. Invisible energies slam against you, ripping apart your magical shield
of protection.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
apply mending to legs
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve has no discernable effect.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
Blood drips from Narsrim's nose as rainbow lights swirl around him in a
maddening frenzy.
A column of holy fire erupts before you. The image of a gigantic, angelic man
wielding a flaming sword steps out and bellows, "Infidel! Repent or forever be
consigned to the Pits of Nil!" Invisible, demonic claws grab at you, rending
your flesh, as hellfire blisters your skin.
2672h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
Like I said, Shield = ineffective.
Geb2008-02-27 05:59:29
QUOTE(Bianca @ Feb 27 2008, 06:52 AM) 489639
A cloudy vision forms in your mind's eye of a towering, angelic woman with a
cobalt blue shield who shouts, "Heretic, get thee from the Light!" She points at
you and a bolt of blue lightning slams into you.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w lrx-
x
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 9.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 8.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 7.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
Muttering words of power, you trace a cobalt blue pentagram in the air that
remains hovering before you, protecting against assault.
You shielded on Heretic. Close enough.
And right after that was....
Narsrim mutters and pokes his index finger towards you and makes a hooking
gesture. Invisible energies slam against you, ripping apart your magical shield
of protection.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
apply mending to legs
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve has no discernable effect.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
Blood drips from Narsrim's nose as rainbow lights swirl around him in a
maddening frenzy.
A column of holy fire erupts before you. The image of a gigantic, angelic man
wielding a flaming sword steps out and bellows, "Infidel! Repent or forever be
consigned to the Pits of Nil!" Invisible, demonic claws grab at you, rending
your flesh, as hellfire blisters your skin.
2672h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
Like I said, Shield = ineffective.
cobalt blue shield who shouts, "Heretic, get thee from the Light!" She points at
you and a bolt of blue lightning slams into you.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w lrx-
x
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 9.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 8.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 7.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
3072h, 4188m, 3432e, 4p, 11412en, 18491w elrx-
Muttering words of power, you trace a cobalt blue pentagram in the air that
remains hovering before you, protecting against assault.
You shielded on Heretic. Close enough.
And right after that was....
Narsrim mutters and pokes his index finger towards you and makes a hooking
gesture. Invisible energies slam against you, ripping apart your magical shield
of protection.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
apply mending to legs
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve has no discernable effect.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
Blood drips from Narsrim's nose as rainbow lights swirl around him in a
maddening frenzy.
A column of holy fire erupts before you. The image of a gigantic, angelic man
wielding a flaming sword steps out and bellows, "Infidel! Repent or forever be
consigned to the Pits of Nil!" Invisible, demonic claws grab at you, rending
your flesh, as hellfire blisters your skin.
2672h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
Like I said, Shield = ineffective.
Shielding on heretic is not close enough. For one thing, the light pops up twice, giving the sacraments user the chance to move on to Infidel. Really, you can't brand the person an Infidel on the first go, because you will not recover enough power to Inquisition after Infidel. Second, he did not even shield in an attempt to avoid the actual Inquisition, so how even in the loosest fashion can you even state that shielding is ineffective? To even be considered using shielding to avoid the Inquisition, you have to actually have had timed it after Infidel was placed on you and then shielded right before the person can bring it down upon you.
Anyhow, I will leave it alone. Just based on this post here, I see that you do not even have a clue about what you are talking about, and are just BSing your responses.
Unknown2008-02-27 06:08:45
QUOTE(geb @ Feb 26 2008, 11:59 PM) 489640
Shielding on heretic is not close enough. For one thing, the light pops up twice, giving the sacraments user the chance to move on to heretic. Really, you can't brand the person an Infidel on the first go, because you will not recover enough power to Inquisition after Infidel. Second, he did not even shield in an attempt to avoid the actual Inquisition, so how even in the loosest fashion can you even state that shielding is ineffective? To even be considered using shielding to avoid the Inquisition, you have to actually have had timed it after Infidel was placed on you and then shielded right before the person can bring it down upon you.
Anyhow, I will leave it alone. Just based on this post here, I see that you do not even have a clue about what you are talking about, and are just BSing your responses.
Anyhow, I will leave it alone. Just based on this post here, I see that you do not even have a clue about what you are talking about, and are just BSing your responses.
You are right Geb. You are always right. You know everything.This proves nothing. Not even that mugwump Celestians can void shields and attack again before their target regains eq, thus making shielding an ineffective tactic. I bow to your infinite knowledge.
Arix2008-02-27 06:41:43
Will you two just kiss and make up already? the tension is making my keyboard melt
Malarious2008-02-27 10:02:49
QUOTE(Bianca @ Feb 27 2008, 12:52 AM) 489639
And right after that was....
Narsrim mutters and pokes his index finger towards you and makes a hooking
gesture. Invisible energies slam against you, ripping apart your magical shield
of protection.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
apply mending to legs
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve has no discernable effect.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
Blood drips from Narsrim's nose as rainbow lights swirl around him in a
maddening frenzy.
A column of holy fire erupts before you. The image of a gigantic, angelic man
wielding a flaming sword steps out and bellows, "Infidel! Repent or forever be
consigned to the Pits of Nil!" Invisible, demonic claws grab at you, rending
your flesh, as hellfire blisters your skin.
2672h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
Like I said, Shield = ineffective.
Narsrim mutters and pokes his index finger towards you and makes a hooking
gesture. Invisible energies slam against you, ripping apart your magical shield
of protection.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
apply mending to legs
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve has no discernable effect.
3072h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
Blood drips from Narsrim's nose as rainbow lights swirl around him in a
maddening frenzy.
A column of holy fire erupts before you. The image of a gigantic, angelic man
wielding a flaming sword steps out and bellows, "Infidel! Repent or forever be
consigned to the Pits of Nil!" Invisible, demonic claws grab at you, rending
your flesh, as hellfire blisters your skin.
2672h, 4227m, 3745e, 4p, 11412en, 18461w lrx-
/=========================\\
{ Equilibrium Recovered }
\\=========================/
Like I said, Shield = ineffective.
Narsrim was not using infidel here, that was infidel ticking, and would have ticked even if he was still shielded.
Ildaudid has some foundation, it isnt all about how fast you shield, its when you shield, you shield right at the time that would close the window and hope you arent hindered in some fashion when you need to shield, timing is risky.
Dont set up songs in combat as has been said. Dont bother trying to refrain a song over and over. Dont bother with heavy room effects, perfectfifth is fine if you can make use of it.
Gelina: Yep Gelina, argue in messages. Its only helping while you are trying to help, a post stating how stupid the other one is doesnt do a thing for Krin.
Ceren2008-02-27 22:39:09
I wouldn't recommend using timed shields. Heretic/Infidel have been known to every so often produce random, invisible, possibly buggy (hard to tell because of the way the AB files are written) glows outside of the normal glow times.
EDIT: If you want some interesting reading about how inquisition works (or supposedly works), take a look at this topic.
EDIT: If you want some interesting reading about how inquisition works (or supposedly works), take a look at this topic.
Geb2008-02-28 02:40:49
QUOTE(ceren @ Feb 27 2008, 11:39 PM) 489799
I wouldn't recommend using timed shields. Heretic/Infidel have been known to every so often produce random, invisible, possibly buggy (hard to tell because of the way the AB files are written) glows outside of the normal glow times.
EDIT: If you want some interesting reading about how inquisition works (or supposedly works), take a look at this topic.
EDIT: If you want some interesting reading about how inquisition works (or supposedly works), take a look at this topic.
I've conducte a test with Nezha, and found that the problem displayed in that post is still there. It is still possible to do if the sacraments users is working in tandem with others or is able to refresh his/her power. I've bugged it, and also mentioned it on the envoy channel.
Ildaudid2008-02-28 03:18:47
QUOTE(ceren @ Feb 27 2008, 05:39 PM) 489799
I wouldn't recommend using timed shields. Heretic/Infidel have been known to every so often produce random, invisible, possibly buggy (hard to tell because of the way the AB files are written) glows outside of the normal glow times.
EDIT: If you want some interesting reading about how inquisition works (or supposedly works), take a look at this topic.
EDIT: If you want some interesting reading about how inquisition works (or supposedly works), take a look at this topic.
The best part of that fight was:
QUOTE
(The Dark Carnival): Asarnil says, "When the new changes go in, except for the
lightning runes, mugwump warrior would kick ass."
lightning runes, mugwump warrior would kick ass."
haha /tease Asarnil