I mentioned him, not by name cause I couldn't remember it, but I did mention him. Go read my first post.



And, yeah, I mentioned that too. I even put a link toa post by Estarra to prove it.

Yay me.

@ MrShrimp: Thanks for metioning the Ironbeard and the gnomes part. Thats

We also had Viravain tell us ICly ages ago that Faelings don't have shards, since they aren't the true splinters of an Elder God (unlike Elfen), but a mixture of Elfen and Fae.

I'm not sure if that's really the case though, given that Faelings can become Demigods/Vernals (which is supposedly manipulating that shard).

The fates record events, they don't actively make them happen. Clotho (I think) being all upset and the bit at the end saying "how lucky you are" seem to make it so that comming back is incredibly rare. We could go into a long arguement about the fact some of use have come back 100+ times, but really I think this is where we have to suspend some belief and assume 99% of people don't come back. Centaur colts, for instance. There's a whole race of Centaurs living in the hills. Just cause you can't find everyone when you go to the hills doesn't mean they don't exist!

I'd never heard Viravain say this, but this has always bothered me a little whenever I think about it.

I like to think of faeling demigods as being more like demi-spirits. Just referred to as demigods for the sake of simplicity (and they're not really spirits either).

I believe it was part of her interactions with Shikari (on his return to the Basin), when she was explaining what mortals were. It was pretty early on in Glom's life, at least.

The book of Keph, and the purple text that pops up when an update is being made implies different. As does the text when 0:00 GMT comes around.

The fates weave the world in a way that even Estarra doesn't understand, can't do.

The fates actually existed even before Yudhe if I remember the comosgenesis story correctly.

Does not work with a number of named mobs for RP reasons ie; Veritus, Alaron and Reghul


Ask a Nihilist ingame about this.


Incorrect.

Atropos.


Talk to a Nihilist ingame about this.


All the colts in the hills are the children of Poloma

"Does not work with a number of named mobs for RP reasons ie; Veritus, Alaron and Reghul
"

Who are those mobs that makes it not work? (don't recogniz the names)

They are all members of the Nihilists. Going through the portal is a requirement to be in the guild(even for mobs), for RP reasons. It's been the case since the begining of the game.

Fae, demons, Divine, Ephemerals, Angels, Aspects, Avatars, DemonLords, Supernals, all went through the Portal.

Good to know.

That doesn't change what I said, that just means that the fates wove them and also sent them through the portal. Whereas us player chars weren't woven specifcally and went through the portal

That, and I don't think it's actually roleplay fact. It's nothing I've heard of anywhere, and would be a pretty important distinction (especially as, currently, Guides differentiate between PCs and NPCs by the "entering through the Portal" bit). Seems more like some Nihilist-centric RP, which they're welcome to-- it just doesn't come across as fact OOCly (especially as all the mobs in the list above sure didn't go through the Portal).

Well, there is also a history of PC becoming NPCs So maybe they entered hte portal at some point, and then later on go woven into reality. Ala Hajamin's #1 demigod

Not quite. It was an image / mimic of Aesyra, not the actual Aesyra. The real one came back later and joined the Shofangi.

well, what about gorky hardbottom ?

I think he's still 'technically' an ephemeral even though he's used as an NPC now. However, I'm not sure about that. I've been tempted to try and kill him a few times, though. (HONOURS GORKY)

Don't be fallacious. I am saying that daganev's suggestion is not the case for all the named mobs and, thus, fails as a reason for all the mobs. If we are going to make up a reason why named mobs keep coming back, let's use a better reason. Or just leave it to suspended belief.



A) That makes no sense ICly.
B) The Nihilists would, in all likelyhood, burn anyone that did that at the stake for as many times as it would take for them to stay dead.

Actually, it wouldn't fail for all mobs just because it fails for a few. Some may do the Portal thing, and some might have some other method. We don't know, I don't believe it's been explained for all named mobs. I know that for the un-named mobs, it's generally "the normal population that's always there, slowly replenishing after getting killed off".

Further, you said that "Going through the Portal was a requirement to be a part of the guild, even NPCs." I just listed a bunch of NPCs that didn't, which would seem to void that requirement. If you don't want people to poke holes at such things, might be best not to post them.

Realisticly though, Fae, demons, Divine, Ephemerals, Angels, Aspects, Avatars, Demon Lords and Supernals aren't in any guilds. Related to a guild, but not guild members

Realistically though, they're all part of the guild (and even occasionally talk on the guild aethers, just as much as guild tutors). Another example: Mother Night, who is definitely a significant component of the Shadowdancer's guild.