QUOTE(Gregori @ Mar 27 2008, 10:08 PM) 496840
Ya think?
Of course it only stops the poison.
Of course it only stops the poison.
And the poison is what causes the shriveling of the limb right? aka the "broken" arm
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 27 2008, 02:53 PM) 496528
Behind the scenes, we have been going round and round debating skills that avoid essence loss and constructs that give them. We've punted this issue to envoys and have never come up with a satisfactory conclusion.
Thus, after much consideration and review, we have come up with a game plan and are 90% sure of doing the following:
* Small experience loss (conglutinate level).
* Crow users with Darkrebirth skill can make eggs in their nests for others
Now requires someone else then..
Change to Lichdom
* Small experience loss (conglutinate level).
* Those who have the lichdom skill turn into archliches.
* Arcliches could plant a lich seed in others.
o If you are a lich marked by Archlich Bob -- Bob gets increased damage for cold aura if you
are in the same room as him.
Coldaura.. upgrade I suppose.
New Transmigration Idea
* While deep bonded, you acquire some qualities of your animal (see below).
If the animal dies, its spirit merges within you for 60 minutes.
* While the animal is alive and in a body (not merged with you) , you will be protected from death insofar
that the animal will die in your stead.
* If animal saves you, you have a small experience loss (vitae like) but you keep your defenses.
* If you die while the animal is merged within you, you both die and you lose the animal
(until you call another one).
* Serenwilde
o owl - +1 int, flight
o badger - +1 con, +1 damage buff
o fox - +1 dex, cold/fire resistance
Badger ftw..? Gave a commune a damage buff to go with their high DMP?
* Glomdoring
o tarantula - +1 con, leaping into air and grabbing
o viper - +1 dex, dendroxin immunity
o widow - +1 charisma, mactans immunity
o bat - +1 int, flight
These arent as good as Serens imho.
Thus, after much consideration and review, we have come up with a game plan and are 90% sure of doing the following:
- Remove the Black Crypt power
- Remove the Black Nest power (possibly removing the entire construct)
- Remove the resurgem benefits from the Moon Altar
- Remove resurrection/sacrifice powers from the Angel Font
- All death avoidance skills would receive a small experience loss
- Darkrebirth skill modified (see below)
- Lichdom skill modified (see below)
- Transmigration skill completely revamped (see below)
* Small experience loss (conglutinate level).
* Crow users with Darkrebirth skill can make eggs in their nests for others
Now requires someone else then..
Change to Lichdom
* Small experience loss (conglutinate level).
* Those who have the lichdom skill turn into archliches.
* Arcliches could plant a lich seed in others.
o If you are a lich marked by Archlich Bob -- Bob gets increased damage for cold aura if you
are in the same room as him.
Coldaura.. upgrade I suppose.
New Transmigration Idea
* While deep bonded, you acquire some qualities of your animal (see below).
If the animal dies, its spirit merges within you for 60 minutes.
* While the animal is alive and in a body (not merged with you) , you will be protected from death insofar
that the animal will die in your stead.
* If animal saves you, you have a small experience loss (vitae like) but you keep your defenses.
* If you die while the animal is merged within you, you both die and you lose the animal
(until you call another one).
* Serenwilde
o owl - +1 int, flight
o badger - +1 con, +1 damage buff
o fox - +1 dex, cold/fire resistance
Badger ftw..? Gave a commune a damage buff to go with their high DMP?
* Glomdoring
o tarantula - +1 con, leaping into air and grabbing
o viper - +1 dex, dendroxin immunity
o widow - +1 charisma, mactans immunity
o bat - +1 int, flight
These arent as good as Serens imho.
Some notes from me:
-Lich should no longer be strippable from inqui since it has a loss now and we dont need it made to b e griefish
-The idea that a demi/ascendant should be a soul who can move is kind of biased. Celest can Sacrifice but no one else can raise the soul of a fallen? Why can you sacrifice for an ascendant at all? Isnt it by design that they have to wait if they dont pay 500K essence?
-How much power will lich cost?
-Some of these should reduce exp loss imho. While them always counting as conglute loss.. if I aint on prime I would t conglute loss anyway. Make it set at 75K essence lost of something? Its not huge but shows an effect.
-Make the damage from coldaura no wake please
-Can we get a way to lich without losing essence please?
-Trueheal has a major benefit.. you dont die when you use it! But I am STILL in support of removing trueheal for something else.
-Daytime is 60% of the time I believe, that would need be changed before we could pseudo clone
-Can trueheal get nerfed a bit too? :/ usable against everything.. make ghost work while prone plz? And that reminds me to fix some of its issues.
-In the hopes of settling the argument even a little. Lich will not stop exp loss just gives perks. trueheal stops you from dying at all when used right (dont try to say its all Narsrim. I have seen many people use it.. right Malicia? Geb? Nydekion?
) It is useful if you stand ready to. Keeping 10p on prompt.. I need at least 9 or so on prompt to pull a sacrifice if they arent balance LOCKED and they have a chance to writhe off before I get eq.-
I forgot some other notes, they will come up later.
QUOTE(Malarious @ Mar 28 2008, 06:02 AM) 496905
Some notes from me:
-Lich should no longer be strippable from inqui since it has a loss now and we dont need it made to b e griefish
-The idea that a demi/ascendant should be a soul who can move is kind of biased. Celest can Sacrifice but no one else can raise the soul of a fallen? Why can you sacrifice for an ascendant at all? Isnt it by design that they have to wait if they dont pay 500K essence?
-How much power will lich cost?
-Some of these should reduce exp loss imho. While them always counting as conglute loss.. if I aint on prime I would t conglute loss anyway. Make it set at 75K essence lost of something? Its not huge but shows an effect.
-Make the damage from coldaura no wake please
-Can we get a way to lich without losing essence please?
-Trueheal has a major benefit.. you dont die when you use it! But I am STILL in support of removing trueheal for something else.
-Daytime is 60% of the time I believe, that would need be changed before we could pseudo clone
-Can trueheal get nerfed a bit too? :/ usable against everything.. make ghost work while prone plz? And that reminds me to fix some of its issues.
-In the hopes of settling the argument even a little. Lich will not stop exp loss just gives perks. trueheal stops you from dying at all when used right (dont try to say its all Narsrim. I have seen many people use it.. right Malicia? Geb? Nydekion?) It is useful if you stand ready to. Keeping 10p on prompt.. I need at least 9 or so on prompt to pull a sacrifice if they arent balance LOCKED and they have a chance to writhe off before I get eq.
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I forgot some other notes, they will come up later.
-Lich should no longer be strippable from inqui since it has a loss now and we dont need it made to b e griefish
-The idea that a demi/ascendant should be a soul who can move is kind of biased. Celest can Sacrifice but no one else can raise the soul of a fallen? Why can you sacrifice for an ascendant at all? Isnt it by design that they have to wait if they dont pay 500K essence?
-How much power will lich cost?
-Some of these should reduce exp loss imho. While them always counting as conglute loss.. if I aint on prime I would t conglute loss anyway. Make it set at 75K essence lost of something? Its not huge but shows an effect.
-Make the damage from coldaura no wake please
-Can we get a way to lich without losing essence please?
-Trueheal has a major benefit.. you dont die when you use it! But I am STILL in support of removing trueheal for something else.
-Daytime is 60% of the time I believe, that would need be changed before we could pseudo clone
-Can trueheal get nerfed a bit too? :/ usable against everything.. make ghost work while prone plz? And that reminds me to fix some of its issues.
-In the hopes of settling the argument even a little. Lich will not stop exp loss just gives perks. trueheal stops you from dying at all when used right (dont try to say its all Narsrim. I have seen many people use it.. right Malicia? Geb? Nydekion?
) It is useful if you stand ready to. Keeping 10p on prompt.. I need at least 9 or so on prompt to pull a sacrifice if they arent balance LOCKED and they have a chance to writhe off before I get eq.-
I forgot some other notes, they will come up later.
Eek run, there is a limbo death trap waiting to gank you for that post. I spy Nydekion, Malicia, Catarin....Geb at the PoS but he can come up if necessary. >.>
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 27 2008, 07:22 PM) 496807
Feel free to make suggestions that make sense for the animal familiar (i.e., for the Glomdoring poison immunities, those creatures actually give those poisons; would rather not just tack poisons onto owls and foxes just for the heck of it).
Is it possible to add more familiars too? Or would that be more of a through the envoy process thing?
Anyways, reading all this I sort of came up with a trueheal idea back when Geb and some others were saying they'd be okay with a trueheal replacement. Others have said the opposite copy of lichdom replacement already, which I thought of initially too. It's not real creative even though I wanted to be
It's actually more just like a downgrade to the current trueheal. I'm also unsure whether trueheal immediately cures all wounds.My idea for the trueheal would be immediate health/mana/ego refreshed to full or above like the current trueheal, but instead of all the afflictions being cured at once, it'd be a defense you get that ticks fairly rapidly, curing afflictions passively 1 or 2 per every few seconds for so many seconds 20 or so depending on the speed. That could obviously be worked on. Wounds could be cured immediately or rapidly on a tic, every tic would be somewhat of a deepcure for each limb also lasting as long as this trueheal aura defense lasts. Power cost maybe not worth 10, maybe it is? Debateable, never have had trueheal so it's really hard to say on this stuff. But the overall idea was instead of trueheal being a get out of jail free card in group fights, (which is most of the fighting, and also means you can afford to slow down on power, maybe not use all 10 up immediately, conserve it perhaps or just tone down the power cost to this move to something like an 8 depending on the rate of curing) it would be more like some guard left your jail cell unlocked, and it's your job to get out without getting caught.
