It -looks- like we'll be replacing the resurgem benefits of the altar with something else.

Resurgem should therefore work on all Seren by default. Other changes might be needed to balance it with new lich (since without soul resurgem it's craaap in PK) but that's another matter.

I just like being able to resurgem fallen novices without having to run to wherever they died. >.<

Also, please please please let us keep three-person resurgem.

I've got no problems with having to be at the corpse/soul to resurgem.

How did we ever manage without these abilities? Everyone seems to think the game will end if everyone doesn't have some way to automatically resurrect someone. Before the Moon Altar Ev and plenty of other Trackers and those without the high enough ability couldn't ever get resurrected, since no one really did immolation. Really, we can all live without every little ability. So long as its balanced in some way, I'm perfectly fine not being able to auto-rezz everyone.

To be fair, the Moon Altar came a bit after the Spiritsingers came out. Spiritsingers, most of them having Ecology and thus transmigration, made it so the only people being unresurgemable where the Serenguard trackers. Now, we've got majority of the Spiritsingers (glamours), the Serenguard trackers and the Shofangi. Good two and a quarter guilds. Ish.

They are so OP that people seem to forget that they are just... optional goodies.

Yep. People finally stopped accosting me with "OMG You're not a Moon Childe what's WRONG with you???". The simple answer is I don't need to be, and no one else does either.

How often does Everiine actually get himself into trouble?

I keep wanting to ask this. The only people who keep trotting out the tired old "harden up" rot either bash like 18 hours a day to begin with, or don't bash/die at all. Most everyone else falls somewhere in the middle of the "this is a roleplaying environment where you have to deal with absurd consequences for minor infractions" and "this is a game, none of it matters at all" scale and understands that the effort required to bash experience back all the time is annoying, even if it is necessary, and that making it worse across the board is not likely to make the game more enjoyable!

I think the admin are beyond thinking this too, or there wouldn't be skills to help mitigate experience loss at all, let alone efforts to actually balance them. Can we just take it as a given and stop arguing this line now?

He doesn't-- he's very, very good at staying out of trouble. He also doesn't bash much at all. He's been Circle 67 for 4 RL months now. I RP the hell out of this game and, believe it or, incorporate death into it. But, there are times when he dies, sometimes more than once in a day or week. If you're trying to discount my opinion on death simply because I don't do it often, then I can easily discount others' opinions on death because they die so frequently they are biased. My experience of death is a part of playing the game, so it is worth stating when a debate on death arises.

I'm not saying "Harden up princess and pray", I'm saying we -did- indeed play just fine when the option of praying was always lurking in the background. People now just assume that praying is some horrible, horrible crime on the level of stealing, and I say it's not.

Idea: Instead of having more liches you lichseeded in a room making your coldaura go up, why not allow your liches to front some of the mana cost instead of you?

Considering that only one coldaura effect is active per room, then I very much doubt that plural liches make much of a difference.

Yep, it's true, only one coldaura affects the room. It doesn't stack.

Wow, these really -are- big changes and overall I think they've certainly got potential. It'll be interesting to see what happens!

Back then, most Spiritsingers had Ecology, but only a handful had Transmigration because most of the guild wasn't multitrans. (Not that that changes your conclusion, in fact it only strengthens it.)

Does it seem unbalanced to anybody else that even though both forests use ecology (fetishes) that Glomdoring seems to have the market cornered not only on animals that produce poisons but also the animals we need to craft our fetishes.. Paying a Celestian to go kill bats gets old after a while.

Why not go kill a cockatrice instead of a bat. And if you are seeking Anerod, there are always kegs of it around the shops

Before Tolborolla was released, Serenwilde had a poison to themselves as well. Currently, it is also impossible to produce anatine without an artifact fountain due to rebirthing adders being a Serencentric quest.

Aren't those adders the ones we have to get from magnagora then sit around for a few hours waiting for them to mature and then capture them to release?

Adders quest is so far from "Serencentric". It requires Celest, Mag, and Seren to do the entire quest.