What about cat-faelings, they're like little aslaran with wings!

Seriously though, what are you people arguing about?

Do Orcs have the shard of Orlachmar in them?

Shards

I'm talking about the regular faelings.

The shadowcasters are just a bi-product of rowena (undead elfen) having children with Laeroc.

Rowena Nightshade is a shard of Elfenhoala and shes dark/evil. Theres nothing wrong with this.

Ohhhh. I liked that argument that someone made where whatever trait you have determined what shard you were. Like if you have gills, breathe water, and are a tank, you're probably a merian, no matter how human you look

Why wouldn't they?

Orcs are more or less the retarded cousins of Orclach. Same gene pool, but someone peed in one end

Can an orc become a demigod?

Oh, I thought he was asking if the orclach did.
Well, considering the viscanti, they all originated from a shard, the taint just dilluted or corrupted it.
So I would assume that yes, once they did.

Can a character play an orc?

Viscanti = tainted any race.
Orc = tainted orclach.

Can a viscanti become a demigod?

A Viscanti is not a "tainted any race"



Players can not play orcs. Orcs have the shards in them.
Players can play undead/tainted merians.
Orcs are not able to be flamed into divinity.

There is some other property that makes a race a race and that allows that race to become divine, other than shards.

They are, any or all races combined into one.
That is why viscanti appearance is so broad and has smaller limitations than others.
By blending with the taint, they chose to call themselves their own race, that doesn't actually mean biologically they are one. Just my 2 cents.

By Shard alone you will not ascend.

And I think biologically, yes they are thier own race. Hence the sip bonus. Thats biological, not cultural.

Uhh, the only thing making viscanti, the viscanti; is the taint.
Hypothetically pretend that there was a race that was inbred. They all originated from somewhere, with a shard, splintered from somewhere. Throw in the taint, a few decades and they establish themselves as 'tainted nobles'. Are they shardless just because they became tainted? I don't think so.
It may have become damaged or effected by becoming viscanti, but I think each player has their own right to roleplay 'tainted this' or 'tainted that'. They just happen to be a viscanti with said background from long ago. Not that hard to understand..


BTW: They are just recognized as their own race. Because of the taint.

As far as I knew illithoids do have a 'shard'. They have a shard of illith's flesh. Called an inner worm.

Therefore soul is not equal to shard.

I feel like taking one of the above posts, calling them out on the slightest point of miniscule misinformation or error and then making a two-page chain of posts debating something that I'm just going to say tl;dr at.

I wonder why...

Yes, but the idea was that the Son of Yudhe's shard would mix with Illith's, potentially awakening it hence giving soul to the illithoid.

Wouldn't it be possible for minIllith would eat the soul of the Son of Yudhe's shard?

Thats the part I'm not sure about. OOC having all the illithoid becoming not-Soulless wouldn't happen though I think. Devouring and breeding might be different.

I hear dogs don't have souls.

Does that mean loboshigaru are bad guys?