It doesn't, Tekora is reaching on that one (the game directly contradicts him on that point.)

Well, it brought both Sun and Orclachmar back from the dead. It quite literally rebuilt Orclachmar's body. The bodies of the Soulless were shown to rebuild themselves, even when they were blasted into tiny specks of dust. So why wouldn't it rebuild the body of an Illithoid? Just because the admin didn't want to code an alternate thing doesn't mean it doesn't really apply--there's no reason while the Inner Worm is rebuilding the body, that the Illithoid's mind, which is a mimic of the Elder's shard, wouldn't venture through a similar experience. But the game doesn't say that the events in praying for salvation aren't simply in your head, and if they can be construed as just in your head, then it doesn't cast any shadow on the immortality bit.

The game doesn't say it's in your head because it doesn't need to say it's in your head. The fact you're bodily transported to the Portal of Fate should say enough about that. And why would you imagine the same sequence of Fate's blathering to each other - and things you haven't seen, i.e the rest of the praying sequence - every time?

I mean, it's possible, but you have to stretch reallllllly unnecessarily far to get there. Realistically that's not likely to be the case.

Neither of them were actually dead, were they? Just dying.

I think Orlachmar was dead. Sun wasn't though.

EDIT: Also, if the praying sequence was "in your head", and your body was reconstructing itself, then ascendants and demigods who really -do- construct themselves would be going through it too.

Because it's more realistic that the Fates, these supreme and mighty beings, don't do anything but STOP eachother from cutting threads? Using the same reasons every single time? Uh.. yeah. Let's not even get into the fact that you can have multiple people praying at the same time. Also, you can be summoned while asleep, so your mind can be one place, dreaming, while your body is being manipulated by an outside source. Oh, and dreamweaving--can't forget that either.

Not necessarily. Demigods and Anscendents have a deeper connection, which would also expand their minds, and so they wouldn't need to resort to a scene out of a story book to keep their sanities during the period in which their bodies are reconstructing themselves.

Either way, the body is being manipulated by an outside source, not reconstructing itself as with demigods (and, Tekora speculates, illithoid worms.)

EDIT: @your post above mine - this is all very outlandish. There's no better reason to believe that than that illithoids simply...aren't immortal.

Illithoid in the UV drop their worms, which are quite lively, violent, and able to feed for themselves.

Yet, an Illithoid player's worm is as restricted as a soul. Why?

That could be a cool racial advantage. A lich-like effect where, if you die, you don't die but lose your body and become a worm (with maggot stats) and a chance to escape.

As for the whole immortal thing, it just really wouldn't fly. Ever, I think.



I know, I'm one of the OCD people that want every race to have a shard.
It just makes it seem more right to me, I can't explain why. Illithoid just having a worm doesn't really satisfy me.




Excellent idea.
STOMP WORM?

Loboshi, actually.

Yeah, my mistake, it's in both but Loboshi first now that Rika mentions it.

The term itself only gets mentioned once in both Books, coincidentally.

Loboshi was more a theory of what the excoroperditio was/did to an Elder, while in Clangorum, we are given more detail as to what this energy actually did.

The inner worm of Revan is here.

>STOMP WORM

You bring your mighty foot down upon the inner worm of Revan.
It impacts forcefully, spraying a myriad amount of juice and gore
everywhere and releasing a nearly unbearable stench. Gross!
You have slain Revan.

The soul of Revan frowns and says through unhappy tears, "Bastard!"

You say, "<3!"

If a worm can survive on its own, someone explain why you need to Pray right after dying?
or do you?

No one "needs" to pray, but if they don't, they can't do anything, and they lose mana, and when they hit 0 mana they start losing more xp.

No I know that, I mean why are they prompted to pray?
like Furien said, worms in the UV can survive outside the body but player worms can't apparently?
I don't play an illithoid so I don't know the details.

Probably something to do with the Portal, now that I think about it, as those other illithoid lack the ability to pray and return as normal.
That, though, doesn't explain the worm-survival of the named illithoid. Entirely different case, I guess.

Are you sure the named illithoid went through the Portal of Fate? I didn't think that denizens had, which is what made them... denizens. Plus, when did they do it? I mean, when the Undervault was discovered? Did they rush out and jump through the portal and then rush back in time to be in place when all those explorers were running around exploring the new area? That actually kind of paints a funny picture in my head, thinking about it!