Your beard is fancy

Welcome Erentru! You seem like a lot of fun so far.

On a more somber note, the event seemed rather disappointing overall. Much of it involved mind-numbing questing that really did not have a significant effect on the outcome even with the truncated quest (lighting 9 beacons is just ridiculously ugh). In addition, the penalty for the event playing out the way it did was rather unreasonable. 5000 power was lost in an effort that was much less trouble than a normal Supernal raid yet counted for a loss of power that was far higher than normal in addition to the other "permanent" consequences. Now, as anything in the game, things are in flux and this is liable to change, but truthfully it does seem quite unfair to have these changes occur without a chance to entirely or partially reverse them.

Eventru, Eventru! I pronounce it like evan true.

As for the somber note, we've said several times in this thread the Celest and Magnagoran quests are being looked at - a lot of us agree, the amount of time it takes to do the quest (I've done some rough math, and it's something that gives me shivers thinking about) is a bit long. We'll hopefully be tweaking it soon, to make it more usable.

As for it being a quest that nad no significant effect on the outcome - well, it's a prophecy quest. It's something most orgs have not had until recently (Serenwilde being the only org, while two NPC orgs had them too, that I can think of off-hand). It's been a staple in a lot of events - it foreshadow's what's coming, and if you can read them right (sometimes it's just impossible from the get-go, but can be done half-way through the event) you can sometimes get a good guess at what's coming next. That's how I've always looked at them, at least.

Does Celest not want a prophecy quest like this? Not to say anything in one way or another, I'm just curious - I'm still acclimating to the environment, though all in all, I very much enjoy Celest, and its population.

Which after this thread, must mean I'm just !!

There's one thing I'm gonna say that I really liked about the event:

It really re-stimulated my interest in the game.
I spent about 6 and a half hours straight on the game which I think is a record for me, as I'm now committed to undoing the Fae song on Raziela and the taint marks.

Good luck undoing the fae song. We keep being told it's impossible without killing Raziela so we shouldn't bother trying Fun.

I'm sure there's something somewhere that will be able to undo it.

Then I'll bathe and relish in the shouts of the stupid Fae who will be all like:

"NOOOOO! YOU CANNOT DO THIS!! WE ARE THE FAE WHAT WE SAYS GOES!"

Then you can inform them they're full of fael.

That's punny.

He doesn't.

He needs something like this:

Something that came to mind last night was: This is the perfect basis for a Commune vs. City conflict quest (brand Raziela vs. remove the brand). That is, even if the brand is "nullified," she's still susceptible to it being restored even on Celestia with the right sequence of events. I'm not sure how much I'd like that to be instated, but it seems a pretty natural next step from where we are now.

I guess we'll see if that's actually where it goes.

Heh, actually, Eventru does have a beard! I definitely went for a Zeus-esque feel when designing his appearance, though I went for a young looking Zeus, with blond hair instead of the atypical white that he's generally depicted with in paintings and such. I wanted him to be younger and more attractive, to go with his generally vain and egotistical attitude.

And Eventru's disgust for anything touched by the Soulless is not a stretch, in any way shape or form - remember, the entire First Circle was slaughtered, and by the Book of Clangorum, only ten were left. Of those ten, two splintered (Aslarn and Meridian) - and another, Fain, was a traitor. Being a leader of healers, Eventru holds a very deep belief that the Immanidivinus pathways that form the Immortal Soul should not be forcibly changed - it's not natural, and it goes against Dynara's Plan, and how She made them.

To see that corruption in any form saddens and angers Him - and after the horrors of the Elder Wars, He believes that the essence of the Soulless, or the Taint in the current instance, cannot be removed or, I believe the idea of the Wyrd is the Taint was burned up like in a chemical process? After being told that Glomdoring was tainted and Viravain and Isune removed/changed it, Eventru laughed - remember, He hasn't met either of them. The Viravain He remembers is a flighty, panicky little goddess who played with bugs and probably made mud pies for Nocht when they played together (I love you Nocht - please don't hurt me!). Likewise, Nocht is very different now than when He went into the Void. He has zero intention of going anywhere near the Wyrd, not without a cadre of Warriors to blow it to bits and pieces in case something goes wrong. Like a bug landing on Him.

There's a lot more to Eventru's character than "lulzsoullessdie" - though it'll take time for it to come out, and He's not really sure what to make of the Basin of Life. His opinions of the Gods kind of vary, and by and large, He kind of finds Himself alone, as He and Terentia didn't necessarily move in the same circles before the Elder Wars, nor did He and Elostian. Though Him and Lisaera may have known each other, there's definitely some hard feelings. Though exactly what those circles (and feelings!) were/are, has yet to be seen!

I have a problem with this "explantion."

Eventru the god claimed that certain people "smelled like soulless" (And not just the illithoids, but Viscanti and I guess Shadowlord faelings as well)

This is not a matter of "not having met them yet" or "not knowing what is possible." This is a seemingly physiological ability, that someone who was in the Edler wars would generally recognize.

It's not something that is up to debate, because Eventru's nose knows.

Whether or not Glom is tainted is an entirely IC exercise of opinion though, so it's not like he has to have opinions that one can argue with.

Heck, Akui's debating skills are probably about on a "What? No, I'm right, you're wrong, shut up." level. Though hopefully a little prettier than that. Eventru, or for that matter, any Elder, could have prejudices that preclude debate. If Eventru sees something as "taint-y", even if the thing he sees doesn't consider itself "taint-y", there's nothing wrong with that. By the same token, if some traitor god comes along, changed by their time in the void, and sees things that are not "taint-y" by his or her own definition as weak and useless, then that's valid as well.

Once you have a device which can identify what is soulless and what isn't, it is no longer an excercise in opinion.

In this case, we have a divine nose which claims to be able to do just that.

edit: Its not even an issue of being tainty, its straight out soulless, which is even worse than tainty.

This is of course assuming that Eventru can perfectly detect the being of a Soulless every time, without fail, and that His definition of it matches out definition-- I'd like to think that just because an Elder says something (no matter how much we like Him ) that doesn't mean the whole Basin keels over and accepts it.

This is irrelevant.

again...

Eventru has a pretty solid reason for being wary of the wyrd. I'm still trying to get the reigns on it character-wise, and can feel Aison going, "Oh gods I am going to have to change trades if I can't get cheap comms anymore." People should give him a chance! I've never seen a new god so harshly judged.

And if you really, really want to find out what he thinks of the wyrd, why don't you ask him? He might blow you away, but I'm sure something can be worked out if you put in some effort and hear him out.

Besides all that, everyone has different opinions and the like. As a player behind the character, I always played Aison as not being particularly fond of the forests (considering them barbaric and at times, savage), but not really focused on them, either, since she has been taught to be against Mag. Not to burn down forests.

But this is putting an interesting twist in her roleplay. I'm nervous about where to go with it.

I refuse to believe it's a beard. It's more like stubble. Hmph.

As for the rest. I can't wait to talk about this stuff ICly.

Happy Clean Forest -> Soulless brought into the world by old celest -> Taint -> Dark Tainted Forest -> Attempt to remove Taint -> Dark Wyrd Forest

I do not understand why it would be wrong to say that some hint of the Soulless is still detectable on those who come from the Wyrd, like a Shadowlord (the changeling thing is a whole other deal though). In fact I think if such an origin was -not- detectable then it would force RP the other way ("See, the Wyrd has nothing to do with the Taint!"). Just because one might be able to detect the Soulless origins of something does not mean one would not be open to some convincing that it is now "safe" or "different" or "purple".

Of course convincing someone who has vastly more experience in dealing with the Soulless than any mortal, and who has not had first hand interaction with the Elders who did the "cleansing" might be a tall task.