Racial Rebalancing II

by Estarra

Back to Common Grounds.

Doman2008-04-23 03:41:49
Not useless, but they could REALLY have better Charisma for people who kinda look like angels and came from a Goddess of Art.
Xavius2008-04-23 03:56:55
Master viscanti are fine, really. With the old sip modifiers, they sipped health for more than shadowcaster faelings, and shadowcaster is a popular Shadowdancer race, which doesn't benefit from the balance bonus. Not their ideal race by any means, but popular, so...yeah, I think there's a big enough slice of the playerbase that manages that you don't need to be overly concerned. I'd also argue that dracnari aren't that bad of a race, and they have similar stats. They make decent druids. Better PK wise than the related lucidian, although that might be frequent encounters with Shuyin's weapons talking. If the concern was making them better for Geomancers, a point of int would go a long way, but more than that would be overkill. Their constitution combined with their sip penalty just isn't that bad.

Brood viscanti aren't. They really, really, really aren't. Int and cha are waaaay too low with that sip penalty. +2 int, +1 cha would go a long way for the viscanti warriors without eliminating the low charisma factor. Even then, I wouldn't take brood viscanti over krokani. They could probably use a strength or con bonus on top of it all.

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As for the tertiary speed changes, I'd actually leave hexes alone, but boost the speed of runes and tarot. Or just tarot, but tarot for sure. Or a way for Nihilists to mask afflictions or temporarily boost balance recovery. Something in that vein.
Malarious2008-04-23 04:30:27
Brood definitely need the lurve. Master I am mostly ok with as they stand.. though village influence boost seems rather negligible... what is it.. boost of 1 less attack? Takes same amount as a viscanti with 16 cha than as an elfen with 17 cha
Asarnil2008-04-23 05:02:54
The thing is, it doesn't matter how long you take influencing mobs, they speed isn't the problem and you can generally take the extra 1-2 attacks okay. When it comes to debating though, you WILL get debated out in a couple of good hits by anyone with a half-good charisma statistic with such a low charisma, and that combined with such a bad sipping penalty (with a -2 sipping penalty, your average sip is about as good as the minimum sip of someone with the exact same stats and level who doesn't have one). The INT situation isn't *too* bad with lich up, but having less than 10 in any stat, even without sipping penalties is absolute suicide against someone with a kill that can take advantage of that low stat.
Celina2008-04-23 05:03:16
All I can say is I tried the new Viscanti on the test server and it was awesome. For some reason I'm still a geo over there and it's officially the best choice for Geo IMO.

And Drunken dward is just retarded tanky. Ildaudid tanked ardrak who 3 shotted me.
Ildaudid2008-04-23 05:09:31
QUOTE(Celina @ Apr 23 2008, 01:03 AM) 505043
All I can say is I tried the new Viscanti on the test server and it was awesome. For some reason I'm still a geo over there and it's officially the best choice for Geo IMO.

And Drunken dward is just retarded tanky. Ildaudid tanked ardrak who 3 shotted me.


Yarr!!!!!
piratecapt.gif

Yeah that was fun and I would sip some absinthe every once in awhile..... until the reinforcements came... OUCH!

edit ---- I found something that explains all my feelings about that situation

Malarious2008-04-23 06:05:42
Wow...

I have been having some fights on the server (using tarot as astrology is slow as hell as a viscanti).

Heres my findings thus far:

*Can definitely tank against damage fairly well.
No recommendations, sipping is bad which is mostly a problem against mana and ego loss more than amages.
*So horrendously slow that with quickening fighting a surged knight was a chore as the quicken would end before his ana was low enough to entangle to try to kill.. he would often writhe from entangle before I got eq.
Suggest speeding up most skills or improving quickenings speed (or allow it to hasten itself instead of always waiting base race). ALternatively upping mana drains.
*Archons a rather painful...
Make them slayable sad.gif
*Dwarves are just nuts O_O
Fix via sip penalty, weakness, resistance drops, and/or slowing them down
Daganev2008-04-23 07:43:40
Ok, Tae'dae with 305 speed hammers, hits every 2.5 seconds.
165 speed weapons with 190 damage was hitting roughly every 4.5 seconds, and damage killed Revan who was viscanti. (roughly 1k damage a swing).
Revan2008-04-23 07:49:49
Here's a log of Tae'Dae vs. Viscanti. I was fully deffed and doing my best to heal... so yea. Also, this was with taint regen as well.


5136h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19810en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. Your right arm is pounded and slightly bruised.
4208h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19810en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4822h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19810en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Klangar's Fury at you. Your left arm is pounded and slightly bruised.
3894h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19830en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3894h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19830en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4796h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19850en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Wyrm Aliara, Ward of the Wyrd says, "Setalias x swing &1."
4796h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19850en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4796h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19870en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Wyrm Aliara, Ward of the Wyrd says, "Settarget 1 revan."
4796h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. Your nose is savagely pounded and breaks, causing blood to splurt forth.
3868h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
3868h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
3868h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

Daganev wildly swings Klangar's Fury at you. Your right arm is pounded and breaks with a loud crack.
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are no longer stunned.
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your chest.
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Both your arms must be free and functioning to do that.
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Pardon me?
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your arms.
The bones in your right arm mend.
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19890en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may apply another salve to yourself.
2940h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19910en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3826h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19910en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 95 health.
3731h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19910en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
3731h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19910en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Your wound status is:
_'''''''_
/ \\
@ ( 608) @
\\_ _/ Deep Wounds: Ruptures:
| | ------------- ---------
_____/_____\\_____ Head: medium (0)
/ \\ Chest: none (0)
| | ( 0) | | Gut: none (0)
( 2613) (608) Larm: medium (0)
| | ( 0) | | Rarm: heavy (0)
\\___|_________|___/ Lleg: none (0)
R | | | | L Rleg: none (0)
| | | |
( 0)| |( 0)
| | | |
_| | | |_
(_____| |_____)
3731h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19910en, 19965w lrxk<>-

With a heavy overhand stroke, Aliara slams a gnarled ancient greatsword down upon you. You are hacked in the cheek for a small flesh wound.
3090h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w lrxk<>-

You have recovered equilibrium.
<<>>----<<>>----<<>>
3090h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
3090h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your chest.
3090h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You enter a stance to protect your arms.
3090h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3090h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3833h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 225 health.
3608h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You remove 1 chervil, bringing the total in the Rift to 931.
3608h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You eat a sprig of chervil.
Your bleeding slows as your blood clots.
3608h, 4265m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19965w elrxk<>-

3608h, 4205m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19953w elrxk<>-

3608h, 4145m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19941w elrxk<>-

3608h, 4085m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19929w elrxk<>-

3608h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19917w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
3608h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19930en, 19917w elrxk<>-

You may eat or smoke another herb.
3608h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19917w elrxk<>-

You remove 1 arnica, bringing the total in the Rift to 549.
3608h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxk<>-

You chew an arnica bud, then spread it on your head.
With a loud crack, your broken nose straightens and heals.
3608h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3608h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your chest.
The salve has no discernable effect.
3608h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4275h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxk<>-

You may eat or smoke another herb.
4275h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. You receive only a red welt from your right leg being pounded.
3347h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Klangar's Fury at you. Your left leg is elegantly pounded and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
2419h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19950en, 19931w elrxkp<>-

You bleed 92 health.
2327h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19931w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2327h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19931w elrxkp<>-

You are no longer stunned.
2327h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxkp<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
2327h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxkp<>-

In a swift, fluid motion, you spring up from your hands to land crouched on your feet.
2327h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3199h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
3199h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
3199h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
3199h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your left arm.
3199h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxk<>-

You enter a stance to protect your head.
3199h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19970en, 19945w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. Your left leg is elegantly pounded and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
2271h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2271h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxkp<>-

You bleed 84 health.
2187h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxkp<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
You are no longer stunned.
2187h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxkp<>-

In a swift, fluid motion, you spring up from your hands to land crouched on your feet.
2187h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
2937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
2937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
2937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
2937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your left arm.
2937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxk<>-

You enter a stance to protect your head.
2937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 19990en, 19959w elrxk<>-

Wyrm Aliara, Ward of the Wyrd says to Daganev, "Scuse me, wtf r u doin neways."
2937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20010en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 74 health.
2863h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20010en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. You grunt as you are pounded in the gut, forcing all the air out of your lungs.
1935h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20010en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
1935h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20010en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
2708h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20010en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You say, "Good to know I can be damagekilled as a viscanti. yay."
2708h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20030en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
2708h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20030en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3466h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20030en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 65 health.
3401h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20050en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Aliara snickers softly to herself.
3401h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20050en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
3401h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20050en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3401h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20070en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4227h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20070en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Ardrak, Keeper of the Megalith runs an outstretched finger along the outer edge of the Megalith.
4227h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20070en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 54 health.
4173h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20070en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Wyrm Aliara, Ward of the Wyrd says to you, "I totally pwned you earlier."
4173h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20070en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
4173h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4173h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Your wound status is:
_'''''''_
/ \\
@ ( 2005) @
\\_ _/ Deep Wounds: Ruptures:
| | ------------- ---------
_____/_____\\_____ Head: heavy (0)
/ \\ Chest: none (0)
| | ( 0) | | Gut: medium (0)
( 2613) (608) Larm: medium (0)
| | ( 608) | | Rarm: heavy (0)
\\___|_________|___/ Lleg: medium (0)
R | | | | L Rleg: medium (0)
| | | |
(608)| |( 1216)
| | | |
_| | | |_
(_____| |_____)
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w lrxk<>-

Wyrm Aliara, Ward of the Wyrd says to you, "I got 16 levels."
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w lrxk<>-

You have recovered equilibrium.
<<>>----<<>>----<<>>
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your head.
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You enter a stance to protect your arms.
4832h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 44 health.
4788h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20090en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
4788h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20110en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4788h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20110en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your head.
The deep damage in your head partially heals.
4788h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20110en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You say, "Was i curing/."
4788h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20110en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 31 health.
4757h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20130en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4757h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20130en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. Your left thigh bone is pounded and shatters under the force of the blow.
3829h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20130en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your head.
The deep damage in your head partially heals.
3829h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20130en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Wyrm Aliara, Ward of the Wyrd says, "No."
3829h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20130en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Klangar's Fury at you. Your left leg is pounded with an awesome blow and pulverized into a bloody stump.
2901h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20150en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
2901h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20150en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3787h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20150en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You say, "There you go."
3787h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20150en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 23 health.
3764h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20150en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. His weapon pounds through the air, missing you completely.
3764h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
3764h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3764h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your head.
The deep damage in your head completely heals.
3764h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Your wound status is:
_'''''''_
/ \\
@ ( 0) @
\\_ _/ Deep Wounds: Ruptures:
| | ------------- ---------
_____/_____\\_____ Head: none (0)
/ \\ Chest: none (0)
| | ( 0) | | Gut: medium (0)
( 2613) (608) Larm: medium (0)
| | ( 608) | | Rarm: heavy (0)
\\___|_________|___/ Lleg: heavy (0)
R | | | | L Rleg: medium (0)
| | | |
(608)| |( 2432)
| | | |
_| | | |_
(_____| |_____)
3764h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w lrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. You are barely fazed from getting pounded in the gut.
2836h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w lrxk<>-

With a heavy overhand stroke, Aliara slams a gnarled ancient greatsword down upon you. You are hacked in the forehead and blink away blood.
2195h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w lrxk<>-

You have recovered equilibrium.
<<>>----<<>>----<<>>
2195h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20170en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
2195h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 46 health.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your left arm.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You must have two legs to do that.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve fizzles away without effect.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may apply another salve to yourself.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
2149h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
2793h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20190en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. You grunt as you are pounded in the gut, forcing all the air out of your lungs.
1865h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20210en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Klangar's Fury at you. Your head snaps back as your skull is pounded hard and fractures, causing your thoughts to spin.
937h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20210en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 33 health.
904h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20210en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
904h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20210en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
904h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20210en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
1631h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20210en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
1631h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You must have two legs to do that.
1631h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve fizzles away without effect.
1631h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You bleed 20 health.
1611h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

With a heavy overhand stroke, Aliara slams a gnarled ancient greatsword down upon you. Your chest is hacked open, laying bare your ribs.
970h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
970h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
970h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
970h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

There is no exit in that direction.
970h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your left arm.
970h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Urlach's Heart at you. Your right leg is elegantly pounded and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You may apply another salve to yourself.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20230en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

You are no longer stunned.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxkp<>-

In a swift, fluid motion, you spring up from your hands to land crouched on your feet.
42h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
838h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You cease parrying.
838h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your right arm.
838h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Filled with longing, you heave a deep, wistful sigh.
838h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your left arm.
838h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You must have two legs to do that.
838h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve fizzles away without effect.
838h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrxk<>-

Daganev wildly swings Klangar's Fury at you. You are pounded in the left arm, which becomes limp and falls to your side.
The blow continues into your body, causing a sickening cracking and mashing sound. A burst of unbearable pain jolts through you before it vanishes suddenly, and you realise you have fallen into the cold embrace of death.
You have been slain by Daganev.
A swirling force begins to tug at your soul and the world spins around you.
0h, 4025m, 3849e, 10p, 20250en, 19965w elrx<>-
Shiri2008-04-23 07:56:40
No sparkle, no heal scroll, no hinder, and with Aliara throwing a few attacks in too?
Revan2008-04-23 08:05:52
I fail to see your point, other than Aliara throwing a punch in.

Edit: Just because I love Shiri:

Edit2: Note that Desitrus is also a tae'dae.

5214h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
4463h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You cease parrying.
4463h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You already are not putting any attention on parrying anything.
4463h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your chest.
4463h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You enter a stance to protect your legs.
4463h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your skin.
A rupture point in your chest has been completely healed.
The deep damage in your chest completely heals.
4463h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
3712h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You bleed 76 health.
3636h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You cease parrying.
3636h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You already are not putting any attention on parrying anything.
3636h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your chest.
3636h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You enter a stance to protect your legs.
3636h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1313.
3636h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4157h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
A rupture point in your chest has been completely healed.
4626h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

What are you trying to recharge?
Syntax: RECHARGE FROM
4626h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
3744h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You cease parrying.
3744h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You already are not putting any attention on parrying anything.
3744h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your chest.
3744h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You enter a stance to protect your legs.
3744h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4004h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4807h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
3762h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You cease parrying.
3762h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You already are not putting any attention on parrying anything.
3762h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You adjust your attention spent parrying your chest.
3762h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You enter a stance to protect your legs.
3762h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

You bleed 171 health.
3591h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19965w elrxkb<>-

3591h, 4335m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19953w elrxkb<>-

3591h, 4275m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19941w elrxkb<>-

3591h, 4215m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19929w elrxkb<>-

3591h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19917w elrxkb<>-

3591h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19917w elrxkb<>-

You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
3591h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19917w elrxkb<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3591h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19917w elrxkb<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4220h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19931w elrxkb<>-

You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1312.
4220h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19931w elrxkb<>-

You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4741h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19931w elrxkb<>-

Wyrm Aliara, Ward of the Wyrd says to Desitrus, "That's censor.gif fast."
4741h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19931w elrxkb<>-

You may be healed by a scroll again.
4741h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19931w elrxkb<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
You jump aside, narrowly avoiding the attack.
4427h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19931w elrxkb<>-

You bleed 81 health.
4346h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19931w elrxkb<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4346h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkb<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
5214h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkb<>-

5214h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkb<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
3495h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkbp<>-

You are not on the ground!
3495h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkbp<>-

You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1311.
3495h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkbp<>-

You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4016h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkbp<>-

You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
A rupture point in your chest has been completely healed.
4485h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkbp<>-

What are you trying to recharge?
Syntax: RECHARGE FROM
4485h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19945w elrxkbp<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4485h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19959w elrxkbp<>-

You bleed 107 health.
4378h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19959w elrxkbp<>-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your skin.
A rupture point in your chest has been completely healed.
The deep damage in your chest partially heals.
4378h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19959w elrxkbp<>-

4378h, 4335m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19947w elrxkbp<>-

4378h, 4275m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19935w elrxkbp<>-

4378h, 4215m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19923w elrxkbp<>-

4378h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19911w elrxkbp<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
2691h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19911w elrxkbp<>-

Aliara ponders the situation.
2691h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19911w elrxkbp<>-

With a heavy overhand stroke, Aliara slams a gnarled ancient greatsword down upon you. Her weapon hacks through the air, missing you completely.
2691h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19911w elrxkbp<>-

2691h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19925w elrxkbp<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
2691h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19925w elrxkbp<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3471h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19925w elrxkbp<>-

Desitrus swings an iron nekai at you but hits nothing but air.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
Desitrus leaps into the air and kicks out at you, but falls short and misses.
You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1310.
2965h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19925w elrxkbp<>-

You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
3486h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19925w elrxkbp<>-

You bleed 103 health.
3383h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19925w elrxkbp<>-

3383h, 4335m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19913w elrxkbp<>-

3383h, 4275m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19901w elrxkbp<>-

3383h, 4215m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19889w elrxkbp<>-

3383h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19877w elrxkbp<>-

You may be healed by a scroll again.
3643h, 4230m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19877w elrxkbp<>-

You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
A rupture point in your chest has been completely healed.
4060h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19877w elrxkbp<>-

What are you trying to recharge?
Syntax: RECHARGE FROM
4060h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19877w elrxkbp<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
2070h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19891w elrxkbp<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
2070h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19891w elrxkbp<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
2828h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19891w elrxkbp<>-

2828h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19891w elrxkbp<>-

You bleed 114 health.
2714h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19891w elrxkbp<>-

2714h, 4335m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19879w elrxkbp<>-

2714h, 4275m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19867w elrxkbp<>-

2714h, 4215m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19855w elrxkbp<>-

2714h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19843w elrxkbp<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
477h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
477h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
1136h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1309.
1136h, 4155m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
1657h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

You may be healed by a scroll again.
1657h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
A rupture point in your chest has been completely healed.
1865h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

What are you trying to recharge?
Syntax: RECHARGE FROM
1865h, 4395m, 4122e, 10p, 24060en, 19857w elrxkbp<>-

Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
Slashing viciously at you, Desitrus rends you in the chest with an iron nekai.
You grimace as the muscles in your chest painfully spasm.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
With a quick spin, Desitrus kicks you in the chest with his left foot.
You collapse to the ground and die as your body is no longer able to take the punishment.
You have been slain by Desitrus.
Shiri2008-04-23 08:22:52
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 23 2008, 09:05 AM) 505061
I fail to see your point, other than Aliara throwing a punch in.


The point is that with 3 extra sword swings and 0 of a possible 10+ sparkles and heal scrolls and 0 attempts to stop him just butchering you, that log isn't representative of anything. In fact it's representative of solid Viscanti tankiness. Bet I couldn't survive that long as a demigod of any of my usual 3 races.

Estarra: since we're normalising stats and sip bonuses and speed lately, how about resistances and weaknesses too? That would help the mugwumps out a little and stop the tae'dae being disgustingly tanky.
Revan2008-04-23 08:40:56
Actualy shiri... you're wrong =/ Sad to say, but I could have tanked that as a human no problem
Revan2008-04-23 08:53:29
I was looking through an old thread and I found this nice analysis of Viscanti v. Elfen as well. I thought I'd throw this into the mix too for more foundation to the "Fix Viscanti" camp.

QUOTE(Nine Breaker @ Sep 29 2005, 04:43 PM) 195308
I'm going to have to say that High Elfen and Elfen Lords/Ladies have an overall advantage over others at this point in time. To begin with, this is their current statistics as provided by Daevos:
Here is some basic analysis when compared to other specialized races:

High Elfen

Pros: 17 Intelligence and 16 Charisma. These are relatively high numbers, and Imperial Merians and Shadowcaster Faelings have similar stats. (18/15, 16/16 respectively). Master Viscanti on the other hand are grossly underpowered in this department (15/12).

Cons: Nothing in particular, although it should be kept in mind that their Constitution is only 11.

Elfen Lord/Lady

Pros: 15 Strength, 16 Dexterity, 14 Constitution. Merian Lords have similar balance (16/14/15) and Brood Viscanti a within the same area (16/12/16). Shadowlord Faeling on the other hand doesn't look too well (10/18/11), but their level 3 balance recovery makes up for it, making them effective speed knights. Now, Intelligence and Charisma are fairly important now too. Elfen Lord/Lady, Merian Lord/Lady, and Shadowlord Faeling have very similar intelligence and charisma, (13/12, 13/11,12/13, respectively). On the other hand Brood Viscanti are -way- behind (9/9).

Cons: Nothing in particular. They have a very balanced, high-end offensive statistic and a very balanced intelligence/charisma statistic.

NOTE: Both High Elfen and Elfen Lord/Lady have minor racial advantages (and they are minor) but no disadvantages.

So it can be concluded that Elfen Lords are extremely well built, and High Elfen are also looking good although their Constitution is lower than Master Viscanti's. Their superior Intelligence and Charisma is supposed to make up for the lack of Constitution though, which balances it out. On the other hand, Master Viscanti's and Brood Viscanti's low Intelligence/Charisma is -supposed- to balance out by their tankiness.

Unfortunately it doesn't.

From the analysis above, it can first be seen that Brood Viscanti don't have as a balanced offensive statistic as all the other specialization. However, this is made up by their superior Strength and Constitution. But, Brood Viscanti have -horrid- Intelligence and Charisma. This is supposedly made up by their tankiness, the level 1 resistance to poison, cutting and blunt.

Unfortunately the level 1 resistances are completely nullified by the leve 2 sipping penalty, skewing the balance in favor towards the other races. This also applies to the Master Viscanti, who have lower Intelligence and Charisma which is supposed to be made up by their tankiness. Ladies and gentlemen, although the Viscanti may look tanky it is simply a misconception. The level 2 sipping penalty is crippling. With Viscanti's overall lower stats in conjunction with the level 2 sipping penalty, level 1 resistances really doesn't make up for it.

Faelings make up for their low Constitution with their sipping bonus. Their casters have high Intelligence and Charisma. Their fighters have great Dexterity and level 3 balance recovery.

Imperial Merians make up for their low Constitution with their superb Intelligence and high Charisma. Merian Lords/Ladies have an overall balanced, good stats. I personally don't know how painful their suspectibility to fire and electricity are, so I won't comment on that.

High Elfen make up for their low Constiution with their high-end Intelligence and Charisma. They have no disadvantages. Elfen Lords/Ladies also have an extremely balanced stats, just like the Merian Lord/Ladies. However, unlike the Merians, they don't have any disadvantages.

Master Viscanti is supposed to make up for their lower Charisma and Intelligence with their tankyness. Although their Constitution is high, it is severely crippled by the level 2 sipping penalty, and the level 1 resistances aren't enough to offset this penalty. Brood Viscanti have good offensive statistics like all the other specialized warriors, but their Intelligence and Charisma is sub-par. This portion it supposed to be made up by their superior combat capabilities, which is supposed to be the resistances.... Which is offset by the sipping penalty.

Quick rundown:

Faelings have disadvantages that are offset by advantages.
Merians are fairly balanced although I'm really don't know how crippling their fire and electricity problem is.
Elfens have extremely balanced, high-end statistics and have no disadvantages.
Viscanti are perceived by many to be tanky races but they really aren't. Otherwise they're in good shape.

I play a Viscanti, and although it's nice to know that I have more health than many other specialized races, it doesn't really matter because we sip like crap. That is all I have to say.

Fain2008-04-23 09:14:25
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 22 2008, 08:08 PM) 504969
Mag is still going to be human/mugwump/faeling/whatever isn't viscanti. Why? Because of the sip penalty. I guarantee you that if you go through with this without either reducing or getting rid of the sip penalty, Viscanti will still suck, people will STILL not play Viscanti, and people will STILL complain about Viscanti. It's the cold, harsh reality of it. Don't curve sip penalties/baances. FIX the problem! Get rid of the sip penalty!


As out of date as it may be, my recollection (as a player) of the viscanti sip penalty was that so long as you were in taint the regen more or less kept pace. It wasn't quite as good as having neither health regen nor sip penalty, but it wasn't far off. Given the additional advantages which viscanti have now been given, I find it difficult to believe that the revamped viscanti proposal is as unviable as you are suggesting.

I may be wrong. My much vaunted omniscience has an exaggerated reputation, but I'd suggest extended testing before dismissing it out of hand, or before agitating for a non-negotiable change which will impact in an unwelcome manner (imo) on the basic defining characteristics of the race.
Malarious2008-04-23 10:29:57
First couple numbers....

Only using demi+viscanti regen for comparison.



6270h, 4875m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29916w elrx-


6270h, 5425m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29930w elrx-
Regen of 550 with max mana of 6600
ascend to the havens

Your spread your arms wide, and the air between your hands begins to warp and
twist as you bore a hole through the fabric of the planes, seeking to ascend to
the Divine Havens.
6270h, 5050m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29930w lrx-


6270h, 5050m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29930w lrx-


You have recovered equilibrium.
6270h, 5050m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29944w elrx-


6270h, 5050m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29944w elrx-


6270h, 5050m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29944w elrx-


6270h, 5050m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29944w elrx-

You fold space and a swirling gateway of brilliant light pierces the air before
you, boring a hole through the very fabric of the planes to the Vault of Heaven.
You ascend confidently through the rotating gate, which shimmers and snaps shut
behind you.
The Vault of Heaven.
: ** UNPAUSED **

With outstretched arms, an enormous statue of Estarra stands here vigilantly.
You see a single exit leading down.
6270h, 5050m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29944w elrx-




6270h, 5380m, 5700e, 10p, 26400en, 29958w elrx-
Regen of 330

I gained 220 regen

roughly
Malarious2008-04-23 10:33:17
Being PPK'd as Viscanti

rawing back her left fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Drawing back her right fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Lanfayr leaps into the air and kicks out at you, but falls short and misses.
5908h, 5864m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26914w lrx-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
5908h, 5864m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26914w lrx-
apply health to head

Drawing back her left fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Drawing back her right fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
With a quick spin, Lanfayr kicks you in the head with her left foot.
5130h, 5864m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26928w lrx-

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your head.
The deep damage in your head completely heals.
5130h, 5864m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26928w lrx-

Drawing back her left fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Drawing back her right fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
With a quick spin, Lanfayr kicks you in the head with her left foot.
4501h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26928w lrx-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4501h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26942w lrx-
sip health

You take a drink from a glowing ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
5511h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26942w lrx-

Drawing back her left fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Drawing back her right fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
With a quick spin, Lanfayr kicks you in the head with her left foot.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
5108h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26942w lrx-

Drawing back her left fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Drawing back her right fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Your nose is savagely hit and breaks, causing blood to splurt forth.
With a quick spin, Lanfayr kicks you in the head with her left foot.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
4508h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26942w lrxp-


4508h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrxp-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4508h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrxp-
sip health

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
4508h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrxp-

You bleed 84 health.
4424h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrxp-

Drawing back her left fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Drawing back her right fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
With a quick spin, Lanfayr kicks you in the head with her left foot.
ADDED concussion
You are no longer stunned.
2672h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-
apply regeneration to head
outr myrtle
eat myrtle
sip health
outr sparkleberry
eat sparkleberry
read 50877

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your head.
2672h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You remove 1 myrtle, bringing the total in the Rift to 867.
2672h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You eat a bog myrtle leaf.
REMOVED concussion
2672h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You take a drink from a glowing ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3404h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 752.
3404h, 5984m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4031h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You read a Scroll of Healing.
You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
4532h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You may apply another salve to yourself.
4532h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w lrx-

You have recovered equilibrium.
4532h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26956w elrx-

Drawing back her left fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Your nose is savagely hit and breaks, causing blood to splurt forth.
Drawing back her right fist, Lanfayr punches you in the head.
Your nose is savagely hit and breaks, causing blood to splurt forth.
ADDED concussion
With a quick spin, Lanfayr kicks you in the head with her left foot.
Your nose is savagely hit and breaks, causing blood to splurt forth.
2551h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrxp-
apply regeneration to head

You may eat or smoke another herb.
2676h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrxp-
outr myrtle
eat myrtle

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2676h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrxp-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2676h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrxp-

You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2676h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrxp-

You are no longer stunned.
REMOVED concussion
2676h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrx-

You bleed 157 health.
2519h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrx-
clot
outr chervil
eat chervil

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
2519h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26970w elrx-
sip health

2519h, 5955m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26958w elrx-
clot

What do you want to eat?
2519h, 5955m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26958w elrx-

You take a drink from a glowing ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
3377h, 5955m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26958w elrx-

3377h, 5910m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26946w elrx-
clot

3377h, 5865m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26934w elrx-
clot

3377h, 5820m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26922w elrx-
clot

3377h, 5775m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26924w elrx-
clot

3377h, 5730m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w elrx-

You may eat another herb that gives the sparkleberry effect.
3377h, 5730m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w elrx-
diag

You are:
ADDED broken nose
3377h, 5730m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w lrx-
outr arnica
apply arnica to head
outr sparkleberry
eat sparkleberry

You remove 1 arnica, bringing the total in the Rift to 1997.
3377h, 5730m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w lrx-

REMOVED broken nose
3377h, 5730m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w lrx-

You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 751.
3377h, 5730m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w lrx-

You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4004h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w lrx-

You have recovered equilibrium.
Lanfayr d'Murani says, "How was that?"
4004h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w elrx-

You may be healed by a scroll again.
4004h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w elrx-
read 50877

You read a Scroll of Healing.
You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
4442h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w elrx-

You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4442h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w elrx-
sip health

You may eat or smoke another herb.
You take a drink from a glowing ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
5416h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26912w elrx-

You bleed 26 health.
5390h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26926w elrx-

Lanfayr gives you the once over.
5390h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26926w elrx-
say painful

You say, "Painful."
5515h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 26400en, 26926w elrx-

I tookquite a bit of damage in this.
Rika2008-04-23 10:37:09
Yeah, I take quite a bit of damage as a demi human with fullplate after a while if I let a monk hit me in one concentrated body part without curing wounds.=, too.
Malarious2008-04-23 11:03:02
Log on drain speed aiming for wrack.. this is flat out drain.. as a mugwump I could get a person near wrack (might need to entangle though)...

Here it is:

You stare deep into Lanfayr's soul and discern that:
Lanfayr's health stands at XXXX/XXXX.
100 % Health left
Lanfayr's mana stands at 4038/4038.
100 % Mana left
Lanfayr's ego stands at XXXX/XXXX.
100 % Ego left
Lanfayr's power stands at 10/10.


You say, "Ok."
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 8p, 26400en, 28605w elrxk-
abjure quickening

Focusing your entire will upon the cosmic strands that bind your own body, you
quicken every fiber of your being to lightning speed.
QUICKENING ACTIVATED!!!!
6270h, 6375m, 5700e, 6p, 26400en, 28575w lrxk-
11
10
9
8

You have recovered equilibrium.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26400en, 28589w elrxk-
sting Lanfayr
contemplate Lanfayr

You strike out at Lanfayr with your deadly tail, and sting her.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26370en, 28603w elrxk-

Lanfayr's mana stands at 4038/4038.
100 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6563m, 5700e, 6p, 26370en, 28593w elrxk-

You point at Lanfayr and utter words of power, leeching her mental reserves into
your own.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26370en, 28583w lrxk-
7
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26370en, 28583w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28583w lrxk-
HALFTIME: 6 left!
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28583w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28583w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28583w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28583w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr
5

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28583w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You have recovered equilibrium.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28583w elrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

Lanfayr's mana stands at 3237/4038.
80 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6563m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28573w elrxk-

Lanfayr's mana stands at 3237/4038.
80 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6526m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28563w elrxk-

You point at Lanfayr and utter words of power, leeching her mental reserves into
your own.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28553w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28553w lrxk-

Lanfayr takes a drink from a ruby vial.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28553w lrxk-

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28553w lrxk-
4
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 6p, 26390en, 28553w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26390en, 28567w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26390en, 28567w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26390en, 28567w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26390en, 28567w lrxk-
3
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26390en, 28567w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28567w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28567w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You have recovered equilibrium.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28567w elrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

Lanfayr's mana stands at 3056/4038.
75 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6563m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28557w elrxk-
2

Lanfayr's mana stands at 3056/4038.
75 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6526m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28547w elrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You point at Lanfayr and utter words of power, leeching her mental reserves into
your own.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-

Lanfayr eats a sparkleberry.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
1
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-

The quickening within your being subsides.
=QUICKENING OVER=
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w lrxk-

You have recovered equilibrium.
Lanfayr takes a drink from a ruby vial.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28537w elrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

Lanfayr's mana stands at 3334/4038.
82 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6563m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28527w elrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

Lanfayr's mana stands at 3414/4038.
84 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6563m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28531w elrxk-

Your tail is poised high above your head, ready to strike.
6270h, 6563m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28531w elrxk-
sting Lanfayr
contemplate Lanfayr

You point at Lanfayr and utter words of power, leeching her mental reserves into
your own.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28521w lrxk-

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28521w lrxk-

You must regain equilibrium first.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26400en, 28521w lrxk-

You strike out at Lanfayr with your deadly tail, and sting her.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 7p, 26370en, 28521w lrxk-

You have recovered equilibrium.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 8p, 26390en, 28535w elrxk-
contemplate Lanfayr

Lanfayr takes a drink from a ruby vial.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 8p, 26390en, 28535w elrxk-

Lanfayr's mana stands at 3233/4038.
80 % Mana left
darkchant leech Lanfayr
6270h, 6563m, 5700e, 8p, 26390en, 28525w elrxk-

You point at Lanfayr and utter words of power, leeching her mental reserves into
your own.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 8p, 26390en, 28515w lrxk-
thanks

"Thanks!" you say.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 8p, 26400en, 28515w lrxk-

Your tail is poised high above your head, ready to strike.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 8p, 26400en, 28529w lrxk-

You have recovered equilibrium.
Lanfayr takes a drink from a ruby vial.
6270h, 6600m, 5700e, 8p, 26400en, 28529w elrxk-


it cost me 3p to get basically nowhere... as a mugwump I could get that far without quickening just by beating sipping. :/
Malarious2008-04-23 11:06:11
QUOTE(rika @ Apr 23 2008, 06:37 AM) 505071
Yeah, I take quite a bit of damage as a demi human with fullplate after a while if I let a monk hit me in one concentrated body part without curing wounds.=, too.


I applied health the first combo then I had to start sipping... some of us also arent wearing fullplate tongue.gif