Racial Rebalancing II

by Estarra

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Thul2008-04-24 05:55:57
Equilibirum/Balance penalty on tae'daes is still horrible. The relative speed increase might be enough to justify the fire weakness, and maybe a one-tier reduction in the sip bonus, but to remove the sip bonus entirely just seems over the top. From someone who's played a tae'dae almost exclusively, please reconsider.
Ashteru2008-04-24 06:15:49
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 24 2008, 03:49 AM) 505247
The illithoid now look like very viable monks. thumbs up to this change

Yep, love those changes! Thank you! happy.gif
Xiel2008-04-24 06:21:26
bump.gif So, how about them bard specs? -twiddle-
Malarious2008-04-24 06:23:46
I like talkans thoughts on monk forms and knight weapons.

Kephera DO NOT need any upgrades although I can agree with lsightly higher str for the males. Make the weakness back to fire and cold please.. no one really uses poison.

Tae'Dae are crazy... even with the speed loss I could tank and kill guardians of a domoth far easier than I could as a viscanti. Even with such low (11) int to effect damage.. the con and resistances just make it far superior in flat out tank.

I know I forgot something, but it will come to me

Also.. (fix muggys sad.gif)
Kaalak2008-04-24 06:26:19
QUOTE(Malarious @ Apr 23 2008, 11:23 PM) 505299
Kephera DO NOT need any upgrades although I can agree with lsightly higher str for the males. Make the weakness back to fire and cold please.. no one really uses poison.


If....we are going to keep armour/greatrobes the same as they are then I think Kephera are fine. If however there is going to be an armour change to make chainmail more frequently used for example wouldn't we need that to be figured in first?

//off topic suspicious.gif
Malarious2008-04-24 06:27:36
QUOTE(Kaalak @ Apr 24 2008, 02:26 AM) 505300
If....we are going to keep armour/greatrobes the same as they are then I think Kephera are fine. If however there is going to be an armour change to make chainmail more frequently used for example wouldn't we need that to be figured in first?

//off topic suspicious.gif


No because they can still wear splendours which is better than normal great robes.
Unknown2008-04-24 06:28:57
QUOTE
Seems like there are easier solutions than this anyway.

Remove rushing and hyperactive, remove the speedup of monk forms. Raise the floor and lower the ceiling for knight weapons.

This would negate the problems with monk's stuns and grapples and the extremeness of high ended knights on cloth while allowing the lower ended knights being useful.

It's much easier and it won't destroy speed races (and yes, the racial changes would indeed obliterate mugwumps. They rely on extreme speed and halfing their speed would be completely unreasonable for the damages they take with the tiny health they have available. Even a mugwump timeslipping while quickened can't negate all attacks currently.)


QFT

Ashteru2008-04-24 06:39:15
As I said: Monks can't kill anyone without stuns or grapples, but that's going to be changed, it seems, so I am happy. The only thing I really dislike about these changes is the one to the regen of Demi for which I'd trade in any stat-increase, but eh. I'll just have to get regenrunes.

And, from what I saw, the change doesn't seem to be terrible much. At level 2 equi, Ali had a difference of 0.2 seconds, which...really isn't that much.
Malarious2008-04-24 07:20:19
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Apr 24 2008, 02:39 AM) 505304
And, from what I saw, the change doesn't seem to be terrible much. At level 2 equi, Ali had a difference of 0.2 seconds, which...really isn't that much.


Hence the problem with drains now sad.gif

Speed guilds just got ferked
Ashteru2008-04-24 07:34:53
A difference of 0.2 seconds from before to after. tongue.gif
Kaervas2008-04-24 07:45:29
If regen is going to be nerfed then couldn't it be level 1 for titan and level 2 for demigod at least?
Rika2008-04-24 07:50:10
I don't get why we need to be nerfed, now that the speed races are getting nerfed anyway. Some people need to appreciate how much work it actually is to hunt to titan/demi.
Kaervas2008-04-24 07:51:56
QUOTE(rika @ Apr 24 2008, 08:50 AM) 505312
I don't get why we need to be nerfed, now that the speed races are getting nerfed anyway. Some people need to appreciate how much work it actually is to hunt to titan/demi.


Neither do I, but if we are I want to try and minimize the damage a bit. tongue.gif
Malarious2008-04-24 08:08:58
I am all for specializing demigods (specs life...) but it would end up mostly people going life unless they have other benefits.. like speccing by fate >.>
Rika2008-04-24 08:12:40
I want the speccing by fates thing. Ressurection ftw.
Malarious2008-04-24 08:18:01
I cant remember what the old ideas where.. one was like
Death:
boosted damage
influence undead
something
somethine
something

Life:
Can ress
more health
divinefire twice?
something
something

and the third option
Rika2008-04-24 08:24:37
Here's the original idea:

http://forums.lusternia.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=378673
Arix2008-04-24 08:28:51
what about lobos?
Rika2008-04-24 08:29:56
QUOTE(Arix @ Apr 24 2008, 08:28 PM) 505319
what about lobos?


They're alright?
Arix2008-04-24 08:32:35
that resistance to poison damage, is that actually useful?